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SpoiledBoi · 12-16-2001, 11:02 AM

my brother jst picked up(doin paper work really)a 3000gt and we test drove it and fortunaltly this black new model v8 mustang comes up next to us at a stop light... our car had a 3.0 NA 200hp SL engine (stick)....v8 had i think 225hp if i remember correctly and he was a stick too. both weighed aproximatly the same. wats sad is my brother knows how to drive a stick, jst not "well"....light turned green and we only got to 75 and a cop showed up so we slowed down and i looked back....its like 2 and half car lengths.... he went passed us then notice the cop and slowed down and we messed wit him again (punchin the gas)....and we took off again as soon as he did....we were in 4th and i looked back its 2 car lengths behind again....ill be drivin it soon for awhile and messin wit cars till i get my car. but too bad its FWD

*ca18guy* · 12-16-2001, 11:34 AM

If the 3000GT isn't a VR-4 then it's slow. Sorry but there heavy and only have 222hp with FWD. If it was a brand new mustang V8 then it had 280 HP i think, the older "newer" styles had from 240-260 HP i can't remember.

onebadm5 · 12-16-2001, 12:04 PM

all '99 and up SN95 mustang GT's are equipped with a 4.6L SOHC V8 that produces 260 hp and 302 ft lbs of torque.

*ca18guy* · 12-16-2001, 12:39 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from onebadm5 on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>4 pm on Dec. 16, 2001
all '99 and up SN95 mustang GT's are equipped with a 4.6L SOHC V8 that produces 260 hp and 302 ft lbs of torque.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Thought it was around there, was'nt sure.

DragonReborn214 · 12-16-2001, 07:48 PM

3000gt is awd not fwd. well fwd with rear wheel assist, but basically awd.

kitoro · 12-16-2001, 08:27 PM

base models of all Mitsus are FWD.
am i correct?
just look at the Eclipse, FTO, GTO(3000GT) .... all base models of these are FWD.

DragonReborn214 · 12-16-2001, 08:36 PM

Just checked, and you are correct kitoro. Thanks for the info. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

SpoiledBoi · 12-16-2001, 10:31 PM

well i knew all this thats y i posted....i was so suprized, either its jap design is alot better, or that guy was a sh*tty driver...jst wanted to share. and now that i think about it...it was that model that lasted till 98...they look the same but i remember the badge that was on the side which is only on that model

SpoiledBoi · 12-18-2001, 03:05 PM

222hp on the front wheels on our 3000GT SL, 3350lbs
225hp on the rear wheels of a 98 4.6 GT mustang, 3300lbs

kitoro · 12-18-2001, 04:24 PM

what's the torque figures for both?

zephyr · 12-18-2001, 09:34 PM

mustangs lose it all in the drivetrain...inefficient pieces of crap

KoukiS14 · 12-19-2001, 01:45 AM

I know. . I know. . I've been told hundreds of times, but 0-60 isn't that important of a measurement.... but...

99+ Mustang GT 0-60:  5.4 sec
3000GT SL:  7.5

-Rob

S13Grl · 12-19-2001, 10:05 AM

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SpoiledBoi · 12-19-2001, 02:53 PM

205 @4500rpm on our 3000gt SL
290 @3500rpm on the mustang GT
mustang should have won. i guess that guy must have really sucked at shiftin, seeing how my brothers had the car for 3 days and still sucks at drivin it

mistert · 12-19-2001, 02:59 PM

yeah thats pretty pathetic, on the part of the mustang. i dont neccessarily always say that japanese and other imports are better than american cars, but the fact that a FWD car with alot less torque and marginally less HP could beat a big rwd car with more hp and torque and even weigh slightly less is pitiful. anyways, tell him to get that vr-4 engine and drivetrain up in there <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> otherwise it doesnt do much more than look good, he'll have civic si's nipping at his heels with ease.

what year is it?

SpoiledBoi · 12-19-2001, 08:22 PM

95, man from a 90 corola to this, its nice enough for him, yea i know i told him the same thing, and look...hes got low insurance on the car anyways. but wait till i get a hold of it. I dunno....ive mention it to him....nah, SI cant mess wit this at all...we burn a GSR jst now on the ride home.

Its a chic magnet, main reason y he liked it, the other is its fast enough for him.

(Edited by SpoiledBoi at 9:32 pm on Dec. 19, 2001)

s13240sxman · 12-19-2001, 11:19 PM

OK I don't really see how a stock SL could beat a GS-R but thats ok. The only thing im really wanting to know is what the driver of the mustang was doing to get beat by a stock SL? BTW 0-60 5.4 is for the 99 up Cobra mustang not GT, the GT is right at 6 flat. At any rate with good drivers I feel that the Mustang and GS-R would have beat the 3000GT. Has any one here ever beat a stock mustang on here with there S13 (With the KA engine)? I keep up pretty well but I dont beat them by 2 cars....

12-19-2001, 11:38 PM

LoL the stock SL is gonna be near even with a SI and a gs-r would take it out and the stang shoulda crushed it, the stang probably wasnt racing or it was a v-6 pretending to be an 8 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

Guido · 12-20-2001, 11:02 PM

I'm a previous mustang owner and still an avid fan and builder of them. The 96-98 4.6's 2 valve motors are simply dogs off the line. The 5-speeds are alright as long as you have some decent suspension behind you and you can launch hard, but the automatics just take way to #### long to wind up. Same with the 95, with the 5 liter, the automatic was a dog. The newer ones aren't as bad though. So honestly I could see an SL beating one on the street, not necessarily by that gap but could see it happen. As always it's a matter of drivers <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> Personally even being a mustang fanatic I would never own the 2 valve 4.6 liter, just doesn't stand at all next to the 4 valve 4.6 in the cobras's potential.

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12-16-2001, 11:02 AM	#1
SpoiledBoi Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my brother jst picked up(doin paper work really)a 3000gt and we test drove it and fortunaltly this black new model v8 mustang comes up next to us at a stop light... our car had a 3.0 NA 200hp SL engine (stick)....v8 had i think 225hp if i remember correctly and he was a stick too. both weighed aproximatly the same. wats sad is my brother knows how to drive a stick, jst not "well"....light turned green and we only got to 75 and a cop showed up so we slowed down and i looked back....its like 2 and half car lengths.... he went passed us then notice the cop and slowed down and we messed wit him again (punchin the gas)....and we took off again as soon as he did....we were in 4th and i looked back its 2 car lengths behind again....ill be drivin it soon for awhile and messin wit cars till i get my car. but too bad its FWD

12-16-2001, 11:34 AM	#2
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If the 3000GT isn't a VR-4 then it's slow. Sorry but there heavy and only have 222hp with FWD. If it was a brand new mustang V8 then it had 280 HP i think, the older "newer" styles had from 240-260 HP i can't remember.

12-16-2001, 12:04 PM	#3
onebadm5 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 678 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	all '99 and up SN95 mustang GT's are equipped with a 4.6L SOHC V8 that produces 260 hp and 302 ft lbs of torque.

12-16-2001, 12:39 PM	#4
ca18guy Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Clearwater FL Age: 42 Posts: 3,226 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ca18guy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from onebadm5 on 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>4 pm on Dec. 16, 2001 all '99 and up SN95 mustang GT's are equipped with a 4.6L SOHC V8 that produces 260 hp and 302 ft lbs of torque.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Thought it was around there, was'nt sure.

12-16-2001, 07:48 PM	#5
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	3000gt is awd not fwd. well fwd with rear wheel assist, but basically awd.

12-16-2001, 08:27 PM	#6
kitoro Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	base models of all Mitsus are FWD. am i correct? just look at the Eclipse, FTO, GTO(3000GT) .... all base models of these are FWD.

12-16-2001, 08:36 PM	#7
DragonReborn214 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SoCal Age: 45 Posts: 462 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just checked, and you are correct kitoro. Thanks for the info. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

12-16-2001, 10:31 PM	#8
SpoiledBoi Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i knew all this thats y i posted....i was so suprized, either its jap design is alot better, or that guy was a sh*tty driver...jst wanted to share. and now that i think about it...it was that model that lasted till 98...they look the same but i remember the badge that was on the side which is only on that model

12-18-2001, 03:05 PM	#9
SpoiledBoi Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	222hp on the front wheels on our 3000GT SL, 3350lbs 225hp on the rear wheels of a 98 4.6 GT mustang, 3300lbs

12-18-2001, 04:24 PM	#10
kitoro Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what's the torque figures for both?

12-18-2001, 09:34 PM	#11
zephyr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mustangs lose it all in the drivetrain...inefficient pieces of crap

12-19-2001, 01:45 AM	#12
KoukiS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Indiana Age: 47 Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know. . I know. . I've been told hundreds of times, but 0-60 isn't that important of a measurement.... but... 99+ Mustang GT 0-60:  5.4 sec 3000GT SL:  7.5 -Rob

12-19-2001, 10:05 AM	#13
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	#Moderation Mode <a href="http://www.zilvia.net/forums/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=1605" target="_self">Moved here</a>

12-19-2001, 02:53 PM	#14
SpoiledBoi Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	205 @4500rpm on our 3000gt SL 290 @3500rpm on the mustang GT mustang should have won. i guess that guy must have really sucked at shiftin, seeing how my brothers had the car for 3 days and still sucks at drivin it

12-19-2001, 02:59 PM	#15
mistert Pearl White Mike Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: memphis TN Posts: 908 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah thats pretty pathetic, on the part of the mustang. i dont neccessarily always say that japanese and other imports are better than american cars, but the fact that a FWD car with alot less torque and marginally less HP could beat a big rwd car with more hp and torque and even weigh slightly less is pitiful. anyways, tell him to get that vr-4 engine and drivetrain up in there <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> otherwise it doesnt do much more than look good, he'll have civic si's nipping at his heels with ease. what year is it?

12-19-2001, 08:22 PM	#16
SpoiledBoi Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	95, man from a 90 corola to this, its nice enough for him, yea i know i told him the same thing, and look...hes got low insurance on the car anyways. but wait till i get a hold of it. I dunno....ive mention it to him....nah, SI cant mess wit this at all...we burn a GSR jst now on the ride home. Its a chic magnet, main reason y he liked it, the other is its fast enough for him. (Edited by SpoiledBoi at 9:32 pm on Dec. 19, 2001)

12-19-2001, 11:19 PM	#17
s13240sxman Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 158 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OK I don't really see how a stock SL could beat a GS-R but thats ok. The only thing im really wanting to know is what the driver of the mustang was doing to get beat by a stock SL? BTW 0-60 5.4 is for the 99 up Cobra mustang not GT, the GT is right at 6 flat. At any rate with good drivers I feel that the Mustang and GS-R would have beat the 3000GT. Has any one here ever beat a stock mustang on here with there S13 (With the KA engine)? I keep up pretty well but I dont beat them by 2 cars....

12-19-2001, 11:38 PM	#18
Guest Posts: n/a	LoL the stock SL is gonna be near even with a SI and a gs-r would take it out and the stang shoulda crushed it, the stang probably wasnt racing or it was a v-6 pretending to be an 8 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

12-20-2001, 11:02 PM	#19
Guido Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm a previous mustang owner and still an avid fan and builder of them. The 96-98 4.6's 2 valve motors are simply dogs off the line. The 5-speeds are alright as long as you have some decent suspension behind you and you can launch hard, but the automatics just take way to #### long to wind up. Same with the 95, with the 5 liter, the automatic was a dog. The newer ones aren't as bad though. So honestly I could see an SL beating one on the street, not necessarily by that gap but could see it happen. As always it's a matter of drivers <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> Personally even being a mustang fanatic I would never own the 2 valve 4.6 liter, just doesn't stand at all next to the 4 valve 4.6 in the cobras's potential.