Wheel Fitment Question Thread

[silviaNC]

I would like to run stock aligment. Wear tires evenly and still look decent. Want ut to look like this picture. Sorry but I'm a noob on wheels.

[fliprayzin240sx]

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[archonftw]

Ok follow up question after lots of lurking on the wheel fitment whore thread.

So if lets say I wanna run 18" rims and 245/40(35?) tires, what width rim should I go is 9 to 10ish the standard?

Also Is it better to get rims with positive offsets and then use spacers, or just try to find a rim with the 0/neg offset I want, going for more of a flush look. If i go with just a 0 or lower offset well fitment within slightly rolled fenders be an issue, can run camber as I need to, but would like to keep camber at ~ -2.5*

EDIT: I think I answered my question with more research... so am I correct in saying that in order to clear (30mm rotors z32 lets say) I need to run a more positive offset wheel and then use a spacer correct? Because if I just used a negative offset wheel it wouldn't clear the caliper right?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by archonftw

Ok follow up question after lots of lurking on the wheel fitment whore thread.

So if lets say I wanna run 18" rims and 245/40(35?) tires, what width rim should I go is 9 to 10ish the standard?

Also Is it better to get rims with positive offsets and then use spacers, or just try to find a rim with the 0/neg offset I want, going for more of a flush look. If i go with just a 0 or lower offset well fitment within slightly rolled fenders be an issue, can run camber as I need to, but would like to keep camber at ~ -2.5*

EDIT: I think I answered my question with more research... so am I correct in saying that in order to clear (30mm rotors z32 lets say) I need to run a more positive offset wheel and then use a spacer correct? Because if I just used a negative offset wheel it wouldn't clear the caliper right?

First off, on what chassis? S14s has a butt load more room under the wheel well than S13s.

First off, offset has absolutely NOTHING to do with brake clearance. Wheel face design is what makes the difference and most big name wheel companies (SSR, Work, etc) has different faces, for the same wheels, to clear certain brakes.

Spacers wise, if you have to use spacers, you're doing it wrong. The goal is to get the right wheels you want, to fit, without spacers. If you get the right rim faced wheels, with the correct width and offset, you shouldnt have to use spacers.

As far as camber for wheel fitment, people use it to clear fenders with less fender pulling.

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[2muchboost]

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[1320VR4]

I'm looking at a set of sick SSR GT1s for a really fair deal. They'd look great on my car however they're +45 offset. Buying these would be teriffic because it would be the same offset roughly and bolt pattern as my 3000gts

I have an S13 of which I have 50mm widebody fenders out back and 40mm up front. I was going to go with 4 to 5 lug adapters (real ones made of quality material) which are 45mm wide. What size spacer would I have to go with additional to this to make these sit about flush. Also is that really safe at all?

[archonftw]

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[archonftw]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

First off, on what chassis? S14s has a butt load more room under the wheel well than S13s.

s13, sorry I think that was in my earlier post? Anyway, well if it's more design then offset, I'll have to see what should allow me to clear. THANKS!

And just to clarify currently i have the fenders up front and back rolled a bit. So what I am thinking is

18x9.5 -5(maybe 10 depending on everything) with 245/40/18
18x10 -5(same as above) with 245(255?)/40/18

[angel mkiv]

hi im wanting to order a set of the new ultra deep concave 18x10.5 +15 work cr kais and have a stock bodied s13...can those fit under the stock fenders with a roll n pull? and what tires to run?im running stance super sport plus coils and spl arms.thanks

[fliprayzin240sx]

[QUOTE=archonftw;4944743]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

First off, on what chassis? S14s has a butt load more room under the wheel well than S13s.

QUOTE]

s13, sorry I think that was in my earlier post? Anyway, well if it's more design then offset, I'll have to see what should allow me to clear. THANKS!

And just to clarify currently i have the fenders up front and back rolled a bit. So what I am thinking is

18x9.5 -5(maybe 10 depending on everything) with 245/40/18
18x10 -5(same as above) with 245(255?)/40/18

First off, 245/40-18s have no business sitting inside these cars wheel wells. They are simply too big diameter wise, worst yet on an S13. I know its pretty shitty finding decent 35 series tires, but you have to kick it down.

Secondly, on stock fenders and wide tires, stay away from negative offset wheels. Its hard enough to fit these wheels on skinny assed/stretched tires. If you insist on running 245-255 width tires and not beat the living crap off the fenders to pull them, kick it down to +20 ish offsets on the 9.5/10j width rims).

Originally Posted by 1320VR4

I'm looking at a set of sick SSR GT1s for a really fair deal. They'd look great on my car however they're +45 offset. Buying these would be teriffic because it would be the same offset roughly and bolt pattern as my 3000gts

I have an S13 of which I have 50mm widebody fenders out back and 40mm up front. I was going to go with 4 to 5 lug adapters (real ones made of quality material) which are 45mm wide. What size spacer would I have to go with additional to this to make these sit about flush. Also is that really safe at all?

Doesnt do me any good when I have no idea what's the width but why the hell do you want +45 wheels? Better yet, its bad enough you're running spacers but you want to stagger TWO!?!?!

Step away from the car, stop modding and then sell it if you think this is remotely okay or safe...

Originally Posted by angel mkiv

hi im wanting to order a set of the new ultra deep concave 18x10.5 +15 work cr kais and have a stock bodied s13...can those fit under the stock fenders with a roll n pull? and what tires to run?im running stance super sport plus coils and spl arms.thanks

I wouldnt attempt it, specially up front on S13s. You'd have to do alot of work to make it fit up front. Without modding the ever living crap out of the wheel well, you can kiss your lock to lock steering.

[angel mkiv]

^^Oh sorry I ment in the rear only..I'd get 9 or 9.5 wide wheels in the front

[fliprayzin240sx]

10.5j in the rear stretched on 235s and some camber is doable. Less camber if you can pull the fenders more but watch out for the rear fender buckling/denting in.

[EJ8 944]

I got new tires on my S14 and I'm not too thrilled with the sizes, need some help for my next tire purchase, current setup is:

18x9 +25 = 235/40/18
18x10 +24 = 255/35/18

I'm no good at picking sidewall sizes, but I'd like to run 245's up front, and 265's in the rear, what side wall ratio can I go with that will look normal? When viewing my car from the side, my rears right now look thinner then my fronts, and this bugs me.

[fliprayzin240sx]

http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/tirescgi

You can use the tire calculator and shoot for roughly the same overall diameter. But from the look of it, 235/40-18 and 265/35-18 is pretty close to each other.

Also, another thing to think about is that different tire brand will measure out their tires differently. Some company's tires are more under sized than others.

Some example, last digit is the overall diameter
Federal 595
235/40ZR18 91W 26.40 25.3
265/35ZR18 93W 28.38 25.2

Falken FK452
235/40ZR18 95Y RF 26.2 25.3
265/35ZR18 97Y RF 27.1 25.3

Nitto NT05
235/40ZR18 25.4
265/35ZR18 25.3

[blusx]

Ok so we are running weds 18x11 in the rear with 50mm overs on an s13 coupe and running 235s on them and lots of camber... question is what size tire would be better to fit the rear with less camber and still fit an 11in wheel????

[KA-Life86]

235 on an 11j is already beyond retarded. Anything narrower is just asking for something bad to hapen

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by blusx

Ok so we are running weds 18x11 in the rear with 50mm overs on an s13 coupe and running 235s on them and lots of camber... question is what size tire would be better to fit the rear with less camber and still fit an 11in wheel????

Wont do me no good not knowing what offset you have.

Originally Posted by KA-Life86

235 on an 11j is already beyond retarded. Anything narrower is just asking for something bad to hapen

Shit, 265s were stetched on my 11js like 225s on 10js.

[MarkS13]

18x9 +6 and 18x10 +11 what size tires would you get?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Stretching on an S13, 215/40-18 and 225/40-18 or 225/40-18 and 235/40-18 for a lil more meat. Less tire means less you'd have to pull the rear fenders.

[xGoggles88x]

Question is on a s13 I'm looking to do Sp1 .. The offset I got a front are 17x9.5 +5,-8 and the rears are 17x10 +11,-1. Which would be a better offset for a s13 with minimal pull and which tires specs should I go with?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Good rule of thumb for S-chassis: 9j +9 and 10j +10.

[xGoggles88x]

So out of those offsets which one would be a better offset for the front and back? +5 and +11?

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by xGoggles88x

Question is on a s13 I'm looking to do Sp1 .. The offset I got a front are 17x9.5 +5,-8 and the rears are 17x10 +11,-1. Which would be a better offset for a s13 with minimal pull and which tires specs should I go with?

Well, if your car isn't low, those specs are fine. It'll be Mexi-minivan flush but it'll fit. But if you're looking to be as low as possible:

Stock fenders with minimal pull with wide wheels that negative offset do no go into the same sentence at all. Well without plenty of hammer work that is. Unless you want to run massive stretch and your alignment settings to where it is dialed in at no longer logical specs.

Among the specs you posted, personally, if those are the only choices, I would just go with the +5 up front and the +11 in the rear. Negative offset is nice for cars that have deep inner fenders unlike the S13. For a 10" on a S13 +18 offset is already pushing it and you will need like a 215/40 in the rear and plenty of useless camber.

For the fronts, I'd go with 205/40 and then hammer those lips out. You'll need it.

If it were me, I would never go through all of this for the sake of making shit fit. +15 is a magical number for 9.5" and for 10" +22 fits for the rears and then some. Meaning you could still tweak your alignment settings without having to worry much about fucking with your fenders too much.

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by xGoggles88x

Question is on a s13 I'm looking to do Sp1 .. The offset I got a front are 17x9.5 +5,-8 and the rears are 17x10 +11,-1. Which would be a better offset for a s13 with minimal pull and which tires specs should I go with?

Well, if your car isn't low, those specs are fine. It'll be Mexi-minivan flush but it'll fit. But if you're looking to be as low as possible:

Stock fenders with minimal pull with wide wheels that negative offset do no add up well without plenty of hammer work unless you have massive stretch and your camber is dialed in at no longer logical specs.

Among the specs you posted, if those are the only choices, I would just go with the +5 up front and the +11 in the rear. Negative offset is nice for cars that have deep inner fenders unlike the S13. For a 10" on a S13 +18 offset is already pushing it and you will need like a 215/40 in the rear and plenty of useless camber with a +11 offset.

For the fronts, I'd go with 205/40 and then hammer those lips out. You'll need it.

If it were me, I would never go through all of this for the sake of making shit fit. +15 is a magical number for 9.5" up front and for 10" +22 fits for the rears and then some. Meaning you could still tweak your alignment settings without having to worry much about fucking with your fenders too much.

[xGoggles88x]

Originally Posted by zooopreme

Well, if your car isn't low, those specs are fine. It'll be Mexi-minivan flush but it'll fit. But if you're looking to be as low as possible:

Stock fenders with minimal pull with wide wheels that negative offset do no add up well without plenty of hammer work unless you have massive stretch and your camber is dialed in at no longer logical specs.

Among the specs you posted, if those are the only choices, I would just go with the +5 up front and the +11 in the rear. Negative offset is nice for cars that have deep inner fenders unlike the S13. For a 10" on a S13 +18 offset is already pushing it and you will need like a 215/40 in the rear and plenty of useless camber with a +11 offset.

For the fronts, I'd go with 205/40 and then hammer those lips out. You'll need it.

If it were me, I would never go through all of this for the sake of making shit fit. +15 is a magical number for 9.5" up front and for 10" +22 fits for the rears and then some. Meaning you could still tweak your alignment settings without having to worry much about fucking with your fenders too much.

Thanks for the info, Im looking for wheels now and I want to get better understanding of wheel fitment and etc. Im trying to be low, but not slammed. I have a S15 front end swap on it and im looking for wide wheels but nothing crazy.

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[fliprayzin240sx]

Personally, I'd go slightly higher offset for S13s due to the small front wheel well area. If it was my car, I would go 9.5 +18 on 215/40-18 and 10j +12 on 225/40-18. Not everybody likes to run rubber band/stretched tires tho. My recommendation honestly is take a look into rimtuck and see what folks are running on their S13s and copy a setup that you like.

[blusx]

Yeah sorry idk the exact offset but the outter lip is 6in inner is 5 ither way we went with 245/35 which dont look too dangerous. I tripped out that the stretched factor is different from each tire company whent with 3 different tires falken/nitto and hankook which had the best looking strech all in the same size... crazy thanks anyway ps sorry for the shitty spelling

[xGoggles88x]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Personally, I'd go slightly higher offset for S13s due to the small front wheel well area. If it was my car, I would go 9.5 +18 on 215/40-18 and 10j +12 on 225/40-18. Not everybody likes to run rubber band/stretched tires tho. My recommendation honestly is take a look into rimtuck and see what folks are running on their S13s and copy a setup that you like.

For the rear 17x10 +11 should be good then? Do I have to run spacers with this set up. I like the stretched look. Thanks for the info tho.
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[fliprayzin240sx]

Nopes, wont need spacers but you'll have to roll and pull the fenders some.

[xGoggles88x]

Well the front are fiberglass and ill pull the rear some.. It's gonna get a new paint job so it doesn't really matter if I pull it. Thank flip for all the info