Another Beheading

[ICKY]

Yep, another american has been beheaded. Someone needs to end this bullshit by taking the people who killed him, and chopping their balls off with a rusty pair of sizzors and then saw their head off with it. Then tape it and show it publicly and LIVE! Do this to every single terrorist we find.

[s14slider]

fuck it, pull out all of the troops and nuke the whole fucking place. i know this is a sensitive subject, but hey, what else is going to work like that, look what happened around 50 yrs ago with Japan. They quit immediately and became one of the best countries in the world. The Japanese are extremely polite and intelligent and recovered beautifully. I seriously doubt that the Arabs will be able to do the same, but we could all go over there after that and all of us will run the oil industry. Just my opinion, no harsh feelings either way.

[iknowyoulike]

Any one know if it was that same guy that was captured recently? I just got off work and jumped on here so i didn't have time to check out the news yet? Damn this shit is getting out of hand..what is this world coming too.

[augimatic]

yeah anyone got a CNN link or something?

This is why I'm not traveling anymore, If I want to see a far away land I'll go to Disney World where no one is gonna kid nap me and cut my head off.

Someone needs to catch those guys and put the smack down.

[augimatic]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...nap/index.html

Come to think of it, what the heck are amricans doing over there anyway???

[Var]

forget nuking. we should go over there and baptize everyone.

[ICKY]

http://www.foxnews.com/

Them god damned people need a wake up call, what better than a nuke? I tell ya, this shit would end if after a few live showcases of showing terrorists having their nuts chopped off, put in their mouth, and sew their mouth shut, then beat them with whips with nails on the tips of them, and then skin their damned skin off with a cheese grater.

[ICKY]

::Edit:: Not appropriate.

[old_s13]

fuck it, pull out all of the troops and nuke the whole fucking place. i know this is a sensitive subject, but hey, what else is going to work like that, look what happened around 50 yrs ago with Japan. They quit immediately and became one of the best countries in the world. The Japanese are extremely polite and intelligent and recovered beautifully. I seriously doubt that the Arabs will be able to do the same, but we could all go over there after that and all of us will run the oil industry. Just my opinion, no harsh feelings either way.

this has to be one of the best displays of STUPIDITY and absolute ignorance I have EVER read, in my MANY years of reading online bullshit.

"look what happened around 50 yrs ago with Japan. They quit immediately and became one of the best countries in the world. The Japanese are extremely polite and intelligent and recovered beautifully."

You absolute fucking moron. Was Japan BAD in the past? Is it because we nuked them that they all of a sudden became smart and polite? Jeeeez, maybe we should nuke your stupid ass.. maybe you will be more polite, intelligent.. and hopefully you'll recover beautifully.

I swear, some idiot terrorists decide to chop a fucking head off.. ONE fucking head.. TEN fucking heads.. and all of a sudden, we're supposed to take action and nuke an entire country?

Im at a complete loss for words.

[Phlip]

Hey, if I hang out at the paintball place down the street from the house, I place myself directly in danger of being hit with a paintball... You go near a FUCKING war zone to work, you place yourself in danger of becoming a POW, people kill POWs all the time...
His family will receive insurance money and his medal, next subject please.

[nocomedown]

Originally Posted by PHLIP

Hey, if I hang out at the paintball place down the street from the house, I place myself directly in danger of being hit with a paintball... You go near a FUCKING war zone to work, you place yourself in danger of becoming a POW, people kill POWs all the time...
His family will receive insurance money and his medal, next subject please.

except for this was in Saudi Arabia and this guy isn't a soldier. We're not at war with Saudi Arabia...this guy was not a soldier. That means he wasn't a POW -- he was a hostage. Even if he was a POW, what about the geneva convention? Have you seen how we treat our POWs (im not talking about the Abu whatever it's called prison..that was an isolated incident. take a look at camp X-ray on guantanamo bay for example..theyre treated very well)? Also, I don't know about you, but execution is one thing. Fine. Shoot the guy, at least thats quick. Sawing someone's fucking head off is animal. I don't know if you saw the Nick Berg video...but the man was completely concious throughout the whole thing...screaming in pain. I mean, I'm not trying to start an argument, but doesn't this piss you off even in the smallest way? They'd have absolutely NO reservations about doing the exact same thing to you based solely on the fact that you're a westerner (you bloody infidel you).

[Sanchi]

Well this is realy sad because i know ppl at work that have meet and worded with the guy. Some of the guys on my team at work was liveing in Saudi last year and its crazy. Its real sad and even though its another kidnapping and killing, nukeing them is fucken retarded... And to even mention Japan u fwking retard!! That was some thing completly diffrent. Any ways if they wanted to send me over there to work.. there is no amout of money that would make me accept.

On a side note if i was to get kidnapped i would fight back and risk the chance of getting gunned down then get my head chopped off... well anyways.

[nocomedown]

Originally Posted by Sanchi

On a side note if i was to get kidnapped i would fight back and risk the chance of getting gunned down then get my head chopped off... well anyways.

except its not quite that easy because they would likely beat the piss out of you to a point where resistance wouldnt even be an option. its also hard to fight back blindfolded and with your hands and feet bound. its likely that your arms/hands and legs would be broken too.

oh and for everyone jumping on the dude about the nuking comment: i highly doubt he was being serious with that. its obviously a stupid idea. he was just being emotional about something that pissed him off.

[SilviaSativa]

Whoa, calm down guy you are reminding me of Bush Jr!

[ICKY]

Originally Posted by SilviaSativa

Whoa, calm down guy you are reminding me of Bush Jr!

Bush doesnt have the balls to do what i propose. Besides, i am calm, im not ranting or heated. I am upset though, because the U.S. won't do jack shit about this, all they do is talk. Also, fuck human rights and the geneva convention, these terrorist don't give a damn about either of those things, so why should we use the geneva convention on them? Lastly, Bush is a pussy, Kerry is a pussy, no one gets my vote.

[SilviaSativa]

I am upset though, because the U.S. won't do jack shit about this, all they do is talk.

Just "talk" eh? Hmm, I sure do recall thousands of deaths caused by the US within the last couple of years.

NUKE their asses!?
Isn't WMD supposibly the reason they invaded Iraq!?! Holy shit, mind control really does work!!!

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by nocomedown

except for this was in Saudi Arabia and this guy isn't a soldier. We're not at war with Saudi Arabia...this guy was not a soldier. That means he wasn't a POW -- he was a hostage. Even if he was a POW, what about the geneva convention? Have you seen how we treat our POWs (im not talking about the Abu whatever it's called prison..that was an isolated incident. take a look at camp X-ray on guantanamo bay for example..theyre treated very well)? Also, I don't know about you, but execution is one thing. Fine. Shoot the guy, at least thats quick. Sawing someone's fucking head off is animal. I don't know if you saw the Nick Berg video...but the man was completely concious throughout the whole thing...screaming in pain. I mean, I'm not trying to start an argument, but doesn't this piss you off even in the smallest way? They'd have absolutely NO reservations about doing the exact same thing to you based solely on the fact that you're a westerner (you bloody infidel you).

Isolated incident my ASS that was one that made it to see the light of day, and you are guilty of believeing bullshit if you think that happened to be the only case of mistreatment of prisoners... And you are right, we are NOT at war with Saudi Arabia, but I stand firm in my statement that I will be damned if I EVER set foot near enough to a warzone to where I run the risk of being abducted, held prisoner (that is a link, check the definition, not all prisoners of war are enlistedmen) killed and then beheaded. And on that subject, yes I saw Nick Berg's body beheaded... I will offer you a small fact, coming from a family with 4 RN's and having seen various mammals slaughtered for human consumption (subsequently the reason I haven't eaten red meat in 5 years+ now): blood flowing through the jugular is among the highest pressure blood flowing through the body, so naturally when it is cut, blood should SPRAY all over the damn place, not just run out as I recall seeing. Next, think of how YOU would respond with a knife to your neck; you'd freak smooth the fuck out and your own actions would likely get your neck cut before anyone had a chance to cut you. Let's say you're totally calm, NO HUMAN BEING will maintain docility of any level when their head is being sawed off with a kitchen knife, that man didn't buck, if at all, near enough for me to agree that he was not already dead when they cut his head off.
Geneva convention? Do radicals ( I refuse to call them terrorists until I see proof of terrorist acts) operate under the rules of the geneva convention? Did your president not just wait 15 fuckin months to decide that the rules of the Geneva convention apply to this war, many of which had already been verifiably and very stupidly commited to incriminating footage to prove no less?
Does it piss me off personally? Well, I don't agree that any man should be dealt with in such a manner without providing sufficient provocation to do so BUT I cannot say that I agree with the conflict that led to the necsssity of his being there, nor will I concede as if I don't know he had a choice otherwise or that Lockheed is paying those contractors upwards of $160k/year to take on the risk of working in these areas. That, to me, means that he placed the value of his life at $160k a year and was not sure how long he would need to word before cashing in. Pissed? No, I didn't lose anyone...
Disgusted at the disregard for human life? Sort of, he didn't have to be there...

[nocomedown]

well, your opinions are all valid, however i do disagree with some of them (respectfully though, as it seems you disagreed with mine). isolated or not, there is no comparison between the injustices of the abu whatever prison incident and the execution of hostages. while literally this man was held as a prisoner, i refuse to believe he was a prisoner of war. also, "prisoner" has a connotation of a criminal. these men were far from that. they were hostages (def. from dictionary.com: A person held by one party in a conflict as security that specified terms will be met by the opposing party.) now im not going to sit here and try to analyze whether nick berg or this new man were dead or not before their heads were cut off (i tend to believe they werent) because i really dont know the science behind it, but what i do know are that these guys were not combatants, and beheading someone (even if they are already dead) does show a complete disregard for humanity. also, as far as i know, this new man wasn't in Saudi Arabia due to war in iraq, but because of Lockheed's business there. again, i dont know all of the details behind it.

i guess what it comes down to for me is that the acts committed by these terrorists (which is what i will call them, because that's what they are...remember september 11th, us embassy bombings, uss cole bombing, 1993 WTC bombing, etc?) are inhumane and disgusting. i cannot fathom people being that blinded by hate that they would see that to be an acceptable way of achieving their goals. i regret that we didn't raid the place sooner, but i take comfort in knowing that the sick fuck who did this is now dead himself.

[Phlip]

... In which case we I will offer my agreement to disagree, while not totally on all points made, in opinion with you and will leave it at that... Trust, some other overly emotional, conveniently newly patriotic and wholly ignorant fuck will suggest some bullshit solution to the problem, watch and see

[nocomedown]

haha fair enough. yeah, these discussions can never stay still for long. someone always thinks they have the solution to the world's problems.

[WilloW]

If we nuke them, they will nuke us in retaliation.

[ICKY]

Originally Posted by WilloW

If we nuke them, they will nuke us in retaliation.

Which arab country has ICBM's? IIRC, NONE of the arab countries have them. The only country in the middle east that has nuclear weapons that i kno of is Isreal. We are allies with Isreal so it wont be too much of a problem. All in all, we couldn't retaliate with nukes. I propose my punnishments.

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by ICKY

Which arab country has ICBM's? IIRC, NONE of the arab countries have them. The only country in the middle east that has nuclear weapons that i kno of is Isreal. We are allies with Isreal so it wont be too much of a problem. All in all, we couldn't retaliate with nukes. I propose my punnishments.

I was talking about those suicide bombers, dirty bombs.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by WilloW

I was talking about those suicide bombers, dirty bombs.

Suicide bombs count as nukes now? Damn, I need to read more.

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by PHLIP

Suicide bombs count as nukes now? Damn, I need to read more.

That's not what I meant, I'm talking about what if one of those nuts get their hands on some nuclear material and does one of those suicide bombing in a crowded satidum or something.

[smellslikecurry]

honestly if we stayed out of the middle east since the beginning we wouldnt be in this mess right now, notice how america only helps other countries only when it benefits us. i doubt this country would get involved with anything just to be a bunch of nice guys or a moderator...im not siding with the terrorists by any means but in my honest opinion we should have never sent troops into the middle east....ever

[iyceman]

But blind-folding arab prisoners in our jails is fucking tantamount to torture. What the fuck ever.

[smellslikecurry]

i hope you know they werent just blind folded

[old_s13]

Shoot the guy, at least thats quick. Sawing someone's fucking head off is animal. I don't know if you saw the Nick Berg video...but the man was completely concious throughout the whole thing...screaming in pain. I mean, I'm not trying to start an argument, but doesn't this piss you off even in the smallest way?

who cares about pain as long as it doesnt become TORTURE. When your dead, do you sit there and wonder.. "well.. getting shot is a 3/10 in the pain factor, but man.. cutting my head off is like a 10/10.. please shoot me next time" -- you dont, because youre DEAD.

Yes, suffering is not good.. BUT, it doesnt matter as long as you're dead. I dont think pain matters when you are dying quick. Pain only matters when they stab you in the gut and now you're left there bleeding to death for a total of 1 week or something.

[Var]

as long as it doesnt become torture? I consider what they did to him a form of torture even though most consider it an "execution" which shouldnt involve pain. The point of an execution is to end a life, not to cause pain or to make a point. But what's funny is we were blamed for Iraqi POW "abuse". hah fags.