Willwood BBK for s14's

[Boostage]

Originally Posted by racepar1

Piston count has NOTHING to do with fade. Fade is all about rotor size, fluid selection, pad selection, and cooling.

They go hand in hand. any application for Wilwood that offers either 4 piston and 6 piston, the six piston version has comes with a bigger rotor. for the record I am willing to get the 6 piston 14" 350z willwood kit if that is what I need.

Now keep in mind the current s14 wilwood kit come swith a 12.9 rotor and 4 pot caliper. and as I mentioned I right now have a 12.75 (only 0.15 smaller) two peice rotor and 4 pot caliper and it will not slow down a 600hp car quick enough. so Im not exactly confident in the standard wilwood kit. would you be?

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Boostage

They go hand in hand. any application for Wilwood that offers either 4 piston and 6 piston, the six piston version has comes with a bigger rotor. for the record I am willing to get the 6 piston 14" 350z willwood kit if that is what I need.

Now keep in mind the current s14 wilwood kit come swith a 12.9 rotor and 4 pot caliper. and as I mentioned I right now have a 12.75 (only 0.15 smaller) two peice rotor and 4 pot caliper and it will not slow down a 600hp car quick enough. so Im not exactly confident in the standard wilwood kit. would you be?

They do NOT go hand in hand, AT ALL. The 6-piston version comes with a bigger rotor, THAT will make the brakes more fade resistant. If you put a 4-piston caliper on that same rotor it would have the same fade characteristics.

TYPICALLY 6-piston calipers may come with bigger rotors, but that doesn't mean that the 6-piston design is doing anything to increase the heat-soak capacity of the braking system. Also a 6-piston caliper may be larger in size and mass than a 4-piston caliper, which may have a small affect on fade, but that's ONLY because it's bigger NOT the design.

You just want the 6-piston brakes to be a badass, just admit it...

[Chaluska]

Originally Posted by racepar1

They do NOT go hand in hand, AT ALL. The 6-piston version comes with a bigger rotor, THAT will make the brakes more fade resistant. If you put a 4-piston caliper on that same rotor it would have the same fade characteristics.

TYPICALLY 6-piston calipers may come with bigger rotors, but that doesn't mean that the 6-piston design is doing anything to increase the heat-soak capacity of the braking system. Also a 6-piston caliper may be larger in size and mass than a 4-piston caliper, which may have a small affect on fade, but that's ONLY because it's bigger NOT the design.

You just want the 6-piston brakes to be a badass, just admit it...

PFftttt..

6 pistons....

PER SIDE

[Boostage]

Originally Posted by racepar1

They do NOT go hand in hand, AT ALL. The 6-piston version comes with a bigger rotor, THAT will make the brakes more fade resistant. If you put a 4-piston caliper on that same rotor it would have the same fade characteristics.

TYPICALLY 6-piston calipers may come with bigger rotors, but that doesn't mean that the 6-piston design is doing anything to increase the heat-soak capacity of the braking system. Also a 6-piston caliper may be larger in size and mass than a 4-piston caliper, which may have a small affect on fade, but that's ONLY because it's bigger NOT the design.

You just want the 6-piston brakes to be a badass, just admit it...

Incorrect. My z32 brakes with stock 300zx rotors is what started this. When I first had my 1j and 60-1 car couldn't stop. Now I admit, I didnt Have performance fluid but had hawk pads. New lines, new mc, and guess what? The car didn't stop and still faded. I lived with it and did the 2j, this time with the 12.75 track rotors, new pads and super blue. And even with the much bigger rotors and proper break in procedure. It still sucked. No I don't have ducts and will incorporate them going forward. But I don't necessarily believe a 4 pot will perform like a 6 pot. That being said. If I wanted to look badass I would run rotoras on all 4 corners. Or cts-v/z06...

The reason for my inquiry is this. And bare in mind im admitting to not be a brake expert..the civic overall is lighter than a 240. but posibley more front heavy since its drivetrain is up front with the engine. Well I can tell u a 2jz 240 is waaay front heavy!
Stop implying that I'm trying to do this for looks. I didn't even say I was committed to wilwoods. I simply asked why they make two types for the Same application.

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by Boostage

Stop implying that I'm trying to do this for looks. I didn't even say I was committed to wilwoods. I simply asked why they make two types for the Same application.

I didn't say you wanted it just for looks, I just said you wanted to be a badass. Jeez, can't lighten up and have a little fun?

If you want bigger rotors than what you've got the 6-pot setups are pretty much your only option. I think that's overkill, even with that much power, and simply refining the setup you currently have would be sufficient.

I'm simply saying that if it's fade you're worried about be concerned with the size oof the rotors, not so much how many pistons the calipers have. That's kind of a back-asswards way of thinking, technically speaking.

[Boostage]

Originally Posted by racepar1

I didn't say you wanted it just for looks, I just said you wanted to be a badass. Jeez, can't lighten up and have a little fun?

If you want bigger rotors than what you've got the 6-pot setups are pretty much your only option. I think that's overkill, even with that much power, and simply refining the setup you currently have would be sufficient.

I'm simply saying that if it's fade you're worried about be concerned with the size oof the rotors, not so much how many pistons the calipers have. That's kind of a back-asswards way of thinking, technically speaking.

What can I do to refine my current setup? So far I know I can run ducting. I recently saw under both my buddies Porsches and the have a factory brake deflector that looks a lot like the SPL one. I'm open to any recommendations on pads and fluid or whatever else you think will make my existing setup work.