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SpdElemts · 09-23-2004, 12:36 AM

What are your opinions about having ABS or not? I am very interested in this 93 s13 fastback, but it doesnt have abs and i dont know if i want a car with abs or not.

Thanks

slideyourride · 09-23-2004, 01:43 AM

u can look in the fuse box and look for the ABS fuse or u can search the net...

Naro182 · 09-23-2004, 02:03 AM

both my 240s do not have abs. I dont really notice the difference...

Just take some time to get used to it and know you cant slam on the brakes, because they will lock up. So take your car out and find the point where it locks up(depends alot on your tires) and be comfortable with that...

I wouldnt let it stop you from buying a good 240 though...

autobahNESSA · 09-23-2004, 10:08 AM

I hated my abs in my 91, ripped the unit out.
Sometimes it would not lock the brakes well, and felt like it extended my braking. Abs is suppose to lock the brakes and do the pumping for you. I found with mine it was not the case. Probably because I have one of the early generations of ABS. New cars I would want ABS in beacuse their that much better.
Another reason why I ripped it out is the abs unit began to leak.

aznpoopy · 09-23-2004, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayarea240

Sometimes it would not lock the brakes well, and felt like it extended my braking. Abs is suppose to lock the brakes and do the pumping for you.

uh... abs PREVENTS you from locking your brakes. pumping = keep brakes from locking.

evilimport · 09-23-2004, 02:19 PM

you cant drift with ABS either....

MasterOFDrift · 09-23-2004, 02:47 PM

^ what what and what?

check what you say before you post guys

cttt300zx · 09-23-2004, 03:27 PM

if you are a good driver, and learn how to pump brakes you can actually stop faster than with abs. I hate abs. I take it out of all of my cars, whether it is new abs or not. It still lenghtens my braking distances. And you have much more controll without abs(again if you are a good driver)

aa87 · 09-23-2004, 03:30 PM

Yeah, i almost got into an accident because ive locked up the shitty tires, just learn not to slam it and you should be good.

AKADriver · 09-23-2004, 03:38 PM

I don't care how good a driver you are, you can't pulse the brakes 20 times per second. Threshhold braking is effective, but ABS does allow the driver to brake just that last nth degree harder. Even professional drivers go faster around a road course with ABS once they get used to it.

The one situation where ABS won't improve braking is loose snow. In that situation you want the wheels to lock and "dig" into the snow.

AlligatorBling · 09-23-2004, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilimport

you cant drift with ABS either....

wtf

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Ritz S14 · 09-23-2004, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cttt300zx

if you are a good driver, and learn how to pump brakes you can actually stop faster than with abs.

ABS kicks in when it feels like your car is going to skid while the brake is depressed.

So you're saying when you pump your brakes you will stop faster than a car with ABS? Hell no. Find a car that has ABS, then have them slam on their brakes to a complete stop and measure the distance they took to stop. Now you go and try that.

Engineers programed the ABS software to work a certain way, if your "way" was faster, i'm sure they would program that into the software.

I had another car with ABS, saved my ass from rear ending someone.. I know I sure as hell wouldn't been able to pump the brake 20times a sec to stop before touching the dude's bumper.

AlligatorBling · 09-23-2004, 05:57 PM

^ indeed. the first month i had my car i was going down my road a lil to fast and met a ups truck backing out.... fassssst stop. dead stop. im not dead.

Marty · 09-23-2004, 09:16 PM

i like having abs in my car

XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX · 09-23-2004, 10:45 PM

what the heck i want abs on mine, does anybody want to sell me there abs system then if they dont want it.

kandyflip445 · 09-23-2004, 11:31 PM

The earlier ABS might actually not be as good as a skilled driver. The new ones are definately better than any driver. It's just like with everything else, it takes time to perfect things and there is still always room for improvement.

evilimport · 09-24-2004, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilimport

you cant drift with ABS either....

never mind, apparently I was smoking crack when I posted that...

autobahNESSA · 09-24-2004, 02:46 PM

"aznpoopy Quote:
Originally Posted by bayarea240
Sometimes it would not lock the brakes well, and felt like it extended my braking. Abs is suppose to lock the brakes and do the pumping for you.

uh... abs PREVENTS you from locking your brakes. pumping = keep brakes from locking "

ABS actually does lock the brakes for breif millisecond then it pulses the brakes to keep them on the virg of locking resulting in maximum braking. Problem with mine was that it did not do this well. the unit leaked, and did not function very well in emergency situations. I may have had an early gerneration, or it was messed up. ABS that I am used to is from late model cars which is far superior to what I had. I was uncomfortable with the way the brakes responded. And i saved probably 50lbs removing the heavy unit. S14 has good abs unit, if my brakes responded how the s14 did, I would have kept the abs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cttt300zx
if you are a good driver, and learn how to pump brakes you can actually stop faster than with abs.

You cannot stop faster then cars with abs unless they are very early versions, and you have r compound tires and it is a dry day. ABS is far superior to any human, it like stated before can pulsate the brakes 20times per second. ABS was banned from F1, cars were able to brake later, therefore going faster, much like traction control was banned. It may be allowed agian, I am not awware of it at this point.

Fact is ABS is more superior then any human, however something was wrong with my unit, and instead of spending lots of money to fix it, replace it, I got rid of it.

SpdElemts · 09-25-2004, 02:31 AM

So should i look for another car with abs?

aznpoopy · 09-25-2004, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpdElemts

So should i look for another car with abs?

it really shouldn't be a make or break option. you know what ABS is, and you should know yourself well enough as a driver to make the decision.

evilimport · 09-25-2004, 10:53 AM

Brake pads and tires stop the car but ABS helps none-the-less....kinda also depends on the climate in which you live too, if it rains a lot ABS might be a good idea to have, but if its a varrying climate you should be ok without....

decsion, ultimately, is up to your preferences alone...

***S14DB*** · 09-25-2004, 11:16 AM

I love ABS

evilimport · 09-25-2004, 06:32 PM

^ Ha Ha... Me too!

09-23-2004, 12:36 AM	#1
SpdElemts Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Jose, California Age: 36 Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Opinions about ABS What are your opinions about having ABS or not? I am very interested in this 93 s13 fastback, but it doesnt have abs and i dont know if i want a car with abs or not. Thanks

09-23-2004, 01:43 AM	#2
slideyourride Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bay area Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	u can look in the fuse box and look for the ABS fuse or u can search the net... __________________ Slide Your Ride...

09-23-2004, 03:27 PM	#8
cttt300zx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CT Posts: 63 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you are a good driver, and learn how to pump brakes you can actually stop faster than with abs. I hate abs. I take it out of all of my cars, whether it is new abs or not. It still lenghtens my braking distances. And you have much more controll without abs(again if you are a good driver) __________________ email: [email protected] AIM: CIPracing2 for all your 240 needs.

09-23-2004, 11:31 PM	#16
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The earlier ABS might actually not be as good as a skilled driver. The new ones are definately better than any driver. It's just like with everything else, it takes time to perfect things and there is still always room for improvement. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

09-25-2004, 11:16 AM	#22
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I love ABS __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

09-23-2004, 02:03 AM	#3
Naro182 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bethlehem, PA Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	both my 240s do not have abs. I dont really notice the difference... Just take some time to get used to it and know you cant slam on the brakes, because they will lock up. So take your car out and find the point where it locks up(depends alot on your tires) and be comfortable with that... I wouldnt let it stop you from buying a good 240 though...

09-23-2004, 10:08 AM	#4
autobahNESSA Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milpitas/Irvine, CA Posts: 1,257 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I hated my abs in my 91, ripped the unit out. Sometimes it would not lock the brakes well, and felt like it extended my braking. Abs is suppose to lock the brakes and do the pumping for you. I found with mine it was not the case. Probably because I have one of the early generations of ABS. New cars I would want ABS in beacuse their that much better. Another reason why I ripped it out is the abs unit began to leak.

09-23-2004, 02:19 PM	#6
evilimport Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Psycho Ward Posts: 778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you cant drift with ABS either....

09-23-2004, 02:47 PM	#7
MasterOFDrift Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WA Posts: 604 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ what what and what? check what you say before you post guys

09-23-2004, 03:30 PM	#9
aa87 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport, LA Age: 37 Posts: 1,116 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah, i almost got into an accident because ive locked up the shitty tires, just learn not to slam it and you should be good.

09-23-2004, 03:38 PM	#10
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,518 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't care how good a driver you are, you can't pulse the brakes 20 times per second. Threshhold braking is effective, but ABS does allow the driver to brake just that last nth degree harder. Even professional drivers go faster around a road course with ABS once they get used to it. The one situation where ABS won't improve braking is loose snow. In that situation you want the wheels to lock and "dig" into the snow.

09-23-2004, 05:57 PM	#13
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 43 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ indeed. the first month i had my car i was going down my road a lil to fast and met a ups truck backing out.... fassssst stop. dead stop. im not dead.

09-23-2004, 09:16 PM	#14
Marty Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA Posts: 170 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i like having abs in my car

09-23-2004, 10:45 PM	#15
XxJaPxOxNeEs23xX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: california Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what the heck i want abs on mine, does anybody want to sell me there abs system then if they dont want it.

09-24-2004, 02:46 PM	#18
autobahNESSA Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milpitas/Irvine, CA Posts: 1,257 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	"aznpoopy Quote: Originally Posted by bayarea240 Sometimes it would not lock the brakes well, and felt like it extended my braking. Abs is suppose to lock the brakes and do the pumping for you. uh... abs PREVENTS you from locking your brakes. pumping = keep brakes from locking " ABS actually does lock the brakes for breif millisecond then it pulses the brakes to keep them on the virg of locking resulting in maximum braking. Problem with mine was that it did not do this well. the unit leaked, and did not function very well in emergency situations. I may have had an early gerneration, or it was messed up. ABS that I am used to is from late model cars which is far superior to what I had. I was uncomfortable with the way the brakes responded. And i saved probably 50lbs removing the heavy unit. S14 has good abs unit, if my brakes responded how the s14 did, I would have kept the abs. Quote: Originally Posted by cttt300zx if you are a good driver, and learn how to pump brakes you can actually stop faster than with abs. You cannot stop faster then cars with abs unless they are very early versions, and you have r compound tires and it is a dry day. ABS is far superior to any human, it like stated before can pulsate the brakes 20times per second. ABS was banned from F1, cars were able to brake later, therefore going faster, much like traction control was banned. It may be allowed agian, I am not awware of it at this point. Fact is ABS is more superior then any human, however something was wrong with my unit, and instead of spending lots of money to fix it, replace it, I got rid of it.

09-25-2004, 02:31 AM	#19
SpdElemts Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Jose, California Age: 36 Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	So should i look for another car with abs?

09-25-2004, 10:53 AM	#21
evilimport Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Psycho Ward Posts: 778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Brake pads and tires stop the car but ABS helps none-the-less....kinda also depends on the climate in which you live too, if it rains a lot ABS might be a good idea to have, but if its a varrying climate you should be ok without.... decsion, ultimately, is up to your preferences alone...

09-25-2004, 06:32 PM	#23
evilimport Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Daytona Beach Psycho Ward Posts: 778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ Ha Ha... Me too!

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