A trip down memory lane: Old 240SX Reviews

They added the JZA80 Supra Turbo the other day.

Shit. 105' stopping distance. Not bad for a pig of a car.

When comparing 90s cars, 350Z does not seem to be a worthy successor to the Z32-TT.

370Z... maybe. Dunno.

[5280VertDET]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

They added the JZA80 Supra Turbo the other day.

Shit. 105' stopping distance. Not bad for a pig of a car.

$33K in 93, damn.... What is that like $40-47K Today?

Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

$33K in 93, damn.... What is that like $40-47K Today?

Actually, it comes out to be $54,360. Remember, that was introductory pricing because by the last year the Supra was released (1998) the prices of BOTH Z32 and JZA80 had increased significantly.

Not that I'm comparing apples with apples here, but when I see people selling S-chassis cars for 6-10k *STOCK* I kinda think its silly because I purchased my `95 SC for about 7k.
S13 was a sub 20k car
95 SC sticker (which I have) was about 45k

Dollar for dollar, you get a lot more car in the used market... but yeah, its a totally different car. S13 is a sporty garbage can. SC is a luxurious garbage can.

Originally Posted by simmode1

Totally agree. IMO, the 350Z was Nissan's watered down compromise since they couldn't afford to offer both the S-Chassis & the Z at that time.

Considering NISSAN had just gone through a huge financial pinch, the Z33 really made good sense. I mean, everything on the Z33 is practically a shared component used on some other platform - so in the end, the math works. If you ever really look closely at the Z32 parts (or S-chassis), they may look similar to parts from another model.. but they still have a lot of bespoke parts on them.

Originally Posted by supersayianjim

those fucking mk4's are pigs when it comes to fuel comsumption!!!

I dont think its out of the ordinary. Besides, can you find me ONE performance vehicle that gets good fuel economy? Fuel economy and performance dont go hand in hand. And please, dont post any bullshit battery-box hybrid. People with their unrealistic views of how hybrids are "free mpg" fall flat when it comes time to change/service their battery.

Originally Posted by simmode1

I always felt that if the Z/G had come equipped with the single turbo VQ30DET, we would not be missing the S-Chassis so much.

For being NA, the current VQ37VHR motors really scream - and though I dislike the V6 configuration - they actually look nice too. Still, I'm such a sucker for straight 4 motors like the SR20DET or straight 6 like the RB/JZ.

Originally Posted by LockOn!

Fucking 2+2 Infinity, so lame.

Dunno, I really like the G35 Coupe since it was first released. G37 Coupe... so-so. And now with all this Q-nonsense... I'm forever confused. I hope that INFINITI will get their heads out of their asses and get the old nomenclature back. Doubt it, though.




^^ damn just posted, another cool review. These guys are really hitting the nail on the head with all these old school sportscars. Someone IS listening.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

S13 was a sub 20k car

95 SC sticker (which I have) was about 45k



Dollar for dollar, you get a lot more car in the used market... but yeah, its a totally different car. S13 is a sporty garbage can. SC is a luxurious garbage can.

Luxury cars always depreciate like rocks. Part of the reason is cost of up keep (repairs, fuel economy) and the other problem is "luxury".

What exactly is "luxurious" about a SC300 today?

It's crappy worn, unsupportive "leather" seats? Automatic climate controls? Power windows standard? Optional CD changer?
Passenger front airbag?

A new Ford Focus is a more "luxurious" car in terms of technology, options and safety.
Hell, NVH may even be lower on the Focus.

Originally Posted by ixfxi

I dont think its out of the ordinary. Besides, can you find me ONE performance vehicle that gets good fuel economy? Fuel economy and performance dont go hand in hand. And please, dont post any bullshit battery-box hybrid. People with their unrealistic views of how hybrids are "free mpg" fall flat when it comes time to change/service their .

It's the 90's so it's all good, but let's be honest, the RB/JZ are garbage by today's standards. Heavy, expensive, gas guzzling and dirty.

The standard today is 20/30mpg under the modern test procedures. Many 90's cars lose up to 5mpg under these new standards.

The Z4 gets 34mpg and I believe the new TT will be up there as well. Corvette, Cayman and 911 all can reach 30mpg.

Originally Posted by Corbic

What exactly is "luxurious" about a SC300 today?
It's crappy worn, unsupportive "leather" seats? Automatic climate controls? Power windows standard? Optional CD changer?
Passenger front airbag?

WHAT IS LUXURIOUS?!?! Well friend, let me tell you...
When you purchase a Lexus, a car of high caliber, you immediately are given membership on one of the most classy forums around: CLUB LEXUS. Even the name is inviting and makes you feel like you're getting VIP treatment. Not only do you get bottle service, but you get to socialize with folks like Obeewon.

The plush leather interior, the automatic climate control, and ah yes, the projector halogen headlights - all just a touch of modern amenities. Even the seats electronically slide forward when you tilt them to allow easy access to the rear seats, while you sit back and have some champagne with Paris and Kim.

The engine is also a beautiful piece of artwork, with an intake manifold that swoops over the valve cover. It restricts access to things like some, but not all, spark plugs - because honestly, only the poor would need to service an engine.

Bullshit aside, the only good thing going for it is the chassis being tank-like. Metal is heavy duty, door hinges are from a bank vault, and a lot is shared with the JZA80. I recently chucked the leather seats and installed Supra seats and reupholstered them with leather/alcantara. But yeah, these cars are old. But at least they are not tin-cans like many of todays cars.

Originally Posted by Corbic

The standard today is 20/30mpg under the modern test procedures. Many 90's cars lose up to 5mpg under these new standards.

When motorweek reviewed the LFA, I thought it was interesting that the car got around 18mpg. Dunno, I thought it would be more efficient.

[OBEEWON]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

WHAT IS LUXURIOUS?!?! Well friend, let me tell you...
When you purchase a Lexus, a car of high caliber, you immediately are given membership on one of the most classy forums around: CLUB LEXUS. Even the name is inviting and makes you feel like you're getting VIP treatment. Not only do you get bottle service, but you get to socialize with folks like Obeewon.

LOL Clublexus makes my face hurt. I didn't know you were on there Mike? What's your S/N?


Also Lexus affords you the luxury of electronic connectors that never disconnect. And if they do they slice your fingers off and break.

[Bushido]

[supersayianjim]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

WHAT IS LUXURIOUS?!?! Well friend, let me tell you...
When you purchase a Lexus, a car of high caliber, you immediately are given membership on one of the most classy forums around: CLUB LEXUS. Even the name is inviting and makes you feel like you're getting VIP treatment. Not only do you get bottle service, but you get to socialize with folks like Obeewon.

The plush leather interior, the automatic climate control, and ah yes, the projector halogen headlights - all just a touch of modern amenities. Even the seats electronically slide forward when you tilt them to allow easy access to the rear seats, while you sit back and have some champagne with Paris and Kim.

The engine is also a beautiful piece of artwork, with an intake manifold that swoops over the valve cover. It restricts access to things like some, but not all, spark plugs - because honestly, only the poor would need to service an engine.

Bullshit aside, the only good thing going for it is the chassis being tank-like. Metal is heavy duty, door hinges are from a bank vault, and a lot is shared with the JZA80. I recently chucked the leather seats and installed Supra seats and reupholstered them with leather/alcantara. But yeah, these cars are old. But at least they are not tin-cans like many of todays cars.




When motorweek reviewed the LFA, I thought it was interesting that the car got around 18mpg. Dunno, I thought it would be more efficient.

yes you swap in some mk4 supra seats and get some new door panels and you have something more modern. I get much better gas mileage in my s13-rb25 than in my 1jz sc400. prob because the lexus weighs 1k more.

[O$mo]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

WHAT IS LUXURIOUS?!?! Well friend, let me tell you...
When you purchase a Lexus, a car of high caliber, you immediately are given membership on one of the most classy forums around: CLUB LEXUS. Even the name is inviting and makes you feel like you're getting VIP treatment. Not only do you get bottle service, but you get to socialize with folks like Obeewon.

The plush leather interior, the automatic climate control, and ah yes, the projector halogen headlights - all just a touch of modern amenities. Even the seats electronically slide forward when you tilt them to allow easy access to the rear seats, while you sit back and have some champagne with Paris and Kim.

The engine is also a beautiful piece of artwork, with an intake manifold that swoops over the valve cover. It restricts access to things like some, but not all, spark plugs - because honestly, only the poor would need to service an engine.

I need a Lexus now. My life's value has significantly dropped due to not owning a Lexus

[l adam l]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

I dont think its out of the ordinary. Besides, can you find me ONE performance vehicle that gets good fuel economy? Fuel economy and performance dont go hand in hand.

99 Camara ss with ls1 and t56 got 27mpgs on the highway...not bad for a '90s' v8?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

$33K in 93, damn.... What is that like $40-47K Today?

Not even close.

$54,360 in 2014 USD.

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

Every time I drive an S14 I say to myself... "Hmm, feels much safer than my S13, but also feels less sporty and ultimately less fun."

Precisely how I feel. I actually want to trade my S14 for another hatch every now & then...

Originally Posted by ixfxi

When comparing 90s cars, 350Z does not seem to be a worthy successor to the Z32-TT.

370Z... maybe. Dunno.

Totally agree. IMO, the 350Z was Nissan's watered down compromise since they couldn't afford to offer both the S-Chassis & the Z at that time.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Precisely how I feel. I actually want to trade my S14 for another hatch every now & then...

Totally agree. IMO, the 350Z was Nissan's watered down compromise since they couldn't afford to offer both the S-Chassis & the Z at that time.

The 350Z took the best of both cars.

Most Z32s sold in the US where non-turbo. The 350Z cost less then a NA 300ZX while offering near turbo performance.

It also cost only a few hundred bucks more then the antiquated S15 turbo.

Mistubishi did the same thing with the Eclipse and 3000GT. Most people wanted the V6 big FWD 3000GT over the VR4, so when the 3rd gen eclipse came out it basically became a bash of the two cars.

[AFSil80]

Originally Posted by ixfxi

They added the JZA80 Supra Turbo the other day.

Shit. 105' stopping distance. Not bad for a pig of a car.

When comparing 90s cars, 350Z does not seem to be a worthy successor to the Z32-TT.

370Z... maybe. Dunno.

When the MKIV Supra Turbo made it's debut, it took the record for Car&Driver's braking distance...and it held that title until the Carrera GT came around.

Yes, the Porsche supercar.