Donald Trump For President

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

They have one of those it's called a dictatorship/ paternal autocracy.

Think of what we could accomplish with one, we could get rid all of the lazy people through force, revitalize the economy by declaring war on a bunch of people for no reason, stop the downfall of western civilization, eliminate any form of welfare or social programs,stop the rising tide of dumb millennial entitlement, quell the flames of world hedonism, and in the long run, enable me to have free sandwiches because reasons.



World conquest should be our goal, I'm surprised no one has mentioned it. You call yourselves western males? I bet none of you have even read the Iliad. How can you even act like your a western male without having done so.



Think about it you guys, complete world hegemony, living means something, instead of being pointless and waiting to fill unnecessary voids, no more dealing with un-charismatic political stooges. It would be so evil and rationally efficient . muhahaha



It's not gonna happen because people have been indoctrinated to avoid it, and or want free stuff, but it's something to think about while you're watching debates and trying to figure out which canidates suck less.

It's not going to happen because it has happened.....

I'll just use the most obvious example:

[Kuma]

Originally Posted by sean710

I am from Vermont, if Bernie Sanders becomes president I am moving to Canada. F that guy, he hasn't done anything but fuck farmers in this state. Bernie says free college and everyone loses there mind. If you want to live in a socialist country vote Bernie you pinko liberals.

Fuck moving to Canada. Quit your job, do trade work under the table, and go to school to be a doctor or engineer.

Originally Posted by Corbic

Move to China then.

Or Greece...

Originally Posted by PignoseWulfman

I'm all for this shit. No more participation trophies. You won't get one when you're fired from McDonald's. Life is ruthless and we should stop telling children otherwise.

With Bernie, it will be more encouraging to not work at all, than to work at McD's.

It seems like only a few months ago, I was calling everyone I knew retards for even entertaining the idea of voting for trump... Then the other candidates started opening their mouths. Now he's starting to look like the best choice.

All you people talking about immigration, watch this.

[Highway Riding]

I would vote for Trump over Larry David for sure! I would hold my nose but fuck it!

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by Corbic

It's not going to happen because it has happened.....

I'll just use the most obvious example:

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well obviously.
I mean, they got a lot done, revitalized their economy, conquered most of the world and overall discovered many of the scientific technologies that enabled our modern conditions. For instance we wouldn't have gotten to the moon and space without them, early television technologies were developed by them as well as a large amount of atomic research. They also drew their country out of social decadence and uphevel which dominated post WW1. If it weren't for them killing everybody for no reason, they would be remembered as heroes. At least the last of Prussian civilization went out with a bang I suppose. Not that I in any way am some sort of nazi, its just an example of a situation and its accomplishments good or bad. This would probably be a better argument to have in History thread, you should visit it, because whoever made it is awesome.

I'm not saying a dictatorship would be fun to live under or that the Nazi's were heroes or some shit,but I just assume that I would be in charge if there was a dictatorship. .

Seriously though, as corbic said, one of the main problems with the modern era is peoples lack of ambition. This has to do not only with their schooling, but also what there parents make them do. One of the big problems with that is that many of the children coming into the world now are going to be entitled little dipshits. This has to do with both how their parents raise them and how society as a whole is now. No one is ambitious anymore, people just assume the world will work for them no matter what. Its not just any one culture, but a large amount of people as a whole. This whole social justice bullshit, that dominates world politics nowadays is the direct result of a hippy generation creating an entitled little fucktard generation. Thats why a large amount of the issues we see coming up are who is underrepresented, who is getting shortchanged etc. People need to realize that the world will never be fully equal for every one person, the world was created in a way that has given people different situations and disadvantages. God created man so that man would accomplish things despite all odds, not so that he could watch man be sloth and pretentiously act as if he is unequal in some dumb way. Life is tough, people just seem to have forgotten that in the sea of "help so and so" we see know.

[STR8 H8N]

trump 4 lyfe

[Bushido]

You really have to be a complete fucking moron to think that Trump is a viable candidate for the Presidency.

[cjack300zx]

Donald Trump is a fucking joke! Any one who comes out and says if elected President he will ban all Muslims is a joke. The very foundation of what this country is built on is the bill of rights, the first ten amendments of the constitution. The first amendment of the constitution is not the right to bear arms the first amendment as a matter of fact the first part of the first amendment reads as " The first amendment to the united States Constitution prohibits the making of any law expecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion.... ". The freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this country so great, you can be Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist or you can worship the fonze like Peter Griffin from family guy. Go ahead and vote for someone who says he's going to take your freedoms away from you.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by cjack300zx

Donald Trump is a fucking joke! Any one who comes out and says if elected President he will ban all Muslims is a joke. The very foundation of what this country is built on is the bill of rights, the first ten amendments of the constitution. The first amendment of the constitution is not the right to bear arms the first amendment as a matter of fact the first part of the first amendment reads as " The first amendment to the united States Constitution prohibits the making of any law expecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion.... ". The freedom of religion is one of the things that makes this country so great, you can be Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist or you can worship the fonze like Peter Griffin from family guy. Go ahead and vote for someone who says he's going to take your freedoms away from you.

Go back to China.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by Bushido

You really have to be a complete fucking moron to think that Trump is a viable candidate for the Presidency.

Well look at the options.

Hilary, a criminal and career liar.

Cruz, a flip flopping ass that sounds like a sleeve ball baptist minister.

Sanders, a half dead zombie communist


Suddenly it's clear why Trump is as popular as he is.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Well look at the options.

Hilary, a criminal and career liar.

Cruz, a flip flopping ass that sounds like a sleeve ball baptist minister.

Sanders, a half dead zombie communist


Suddenly it's clear why Trump is as popular as he is.

Which is why I hope Rubio gets the Republican Nom.

[KiLLeR2001]

Rubio will be good after Trump.

[S14kouki805]

Originally Posted by brndck

Furthermore, the "stealing our jobs" claim is bullshit. I have yet to meet a single person who looks forward to a career of picking strawberries or lettuce in the Santa Maria sun for 12+ hrs a day.

[Slow clap]- I live in Santa Maria, trust me when I say this, they are not taking anyone's job in the fields.

Now in regard to driving down wages in other sectors such as the service industry, construction, etc., that's different.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by S14kouki805

[Slow clap]- I live in Santa Maria, trust me when I say this, they are not taking anyone's job in the fields.



Now in regard to driving down wages in other sectors such as the service industry, construction, etc., that's different.

And that's pretty much the crux. It's wages across all sectors.

If I can get someone to roof a house for $8 and hour, why should I pay you $12 to drive a truck? If a truck driver only makes $10 why should I pay the shipping clerk $14... And up the chain we go.

With tech and medical jobs we just import Indians. My company has 4 SAP programers, all are foreign nationals...

Despite that.

Corbic's solutions for everything.


Legalize mother fucking drugs.

Prisons empty and can now be filled with politicians and bankers.

Street crime melts away, inner city shootings end.

Cops don't have to pretend their in fucking Iraq and patrol the streets in fear for their lives. Extrajudicial killings stop.

Cartels melt away as Philip Morris takes over. Mexico stabilizes, violence is reduced. Immigration is reduced.

I legalize natural born SOUTH AMERICAN and Canadian immigration.

You come to the US border, we finger print, photography and dna swab you. You get a work visa with your finger prints in it and some sort of cool digital chip credit card tech.

Feel free to steal jobs. Oh, but naturalization is abolished. If Brazilian parents have a baby here, the baby is Brazilian.

Work, pay taxes, come and go as you please... But no voting and not extensive social welfare.

Utopia.

[mhubeny180sx]

trump please, cant wait to watch america burn.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by mhubeny180sx

trump please, cant wait to watch america burn.

Hey Canada... We go, you go too.

[mhubeny180sx]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Hey Canada... We go, you go too.

Canada is already a sunken ship.



Oil industry is shit. Wood grinded to a halt several years ago. Mining industry is also shit. Last week 90 miners lost their jobs in the town I live in, at basically one of the very few operating mines.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by mhubeny180sx

trump please, cant wait to watch america burn.

Misery loves company.

[Highway Riding]

lmao seems like China and Mexico don't like how merican politix is turning out lmao
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...fing_wall.html
http://freebeacon.com/politics/china...nevada-caucus/

Trump FTW!

[Yardjass]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

well obviously.
I mean, they got a lot done, revitalized their economy, conquered most of the world and overall discovered many of the scientific technologies that enabled our modern conditions. For instance we wouldn't have gotten to the moon and space without them, early television technologies were developed by them as well as a large amount of atomic research. They also drew their country out of social decadence and uphevel which dominated post WW1. If it weren't for them killing everybody for no reason, they would be remembered as heroes. At least the last of Prussian civilization went out with a bang I suppose. Not that I in any way am some sort of nazi, its just an example of a situation and its accomplishments good or bad. This would probably be a better argument to have in History thread, you should visit it, because whoever made it is awesome.

You're forgetting that the Nazi's were able to support all of their huge construction projects and build supplies for their war machine off the backs of slaves, who were literally worked to death. This was pretty much the opposite of what you're bitching about: A society being accelerated forward faster than it should by slavery, rather than a working economy where people are actually rewarded justly for their efforts. In this case, the deadbeat was the regime government that expected shit for free, rather than some lazy bum asking for a handout from the government like we have here.

But yeah, I agree, this generation is a bunch of lazy, self-entitled fucks. We don't have to take extreme measures to fix this though. Just stop fucking giving them free shit, and give only to people who earn it instead.

Originally Posted by Kuma

It seems like only a few months ago, I was calling everyone I knew retards for even entertaining the idea of voting for trump... Then the other candidates started opening their mouths. Now he's starting to look like the best choice.

This.

Originally Posted by Bushido

You really have to be a complete fucking moron to think that any of the main candidates left in the race are a viable candidate for the Presidency.

Fixed.

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by Yardjass

You're forgetting that the Nazi's were able to support all of their huge construction projects and build supplies for their war machine off the backs of slaves, who were literally worked to death. This was pretty much the opposite of what you're bitching about: A society being accelerated forward faster than it should by slavery, rather than a working economy where people are actually rewarded justly for their efforts. In this case, the deadbeat was the regime government that expected shit for free, rather than some lazy bum asking for a handout from the government like we have here.

they had basically delivered their country out of a depression by the time WW2 even started, which is kinda before slaves came into the workforce. Also most of their prisoner slave labor did a real shitty job and were regulated to shit that didn't matter much, and when they did work on important shit it was at the very end of the war when it was basically all over. Anyway, the point is, They didn't have any slaves when they brought themselves out of the great depression.

I feel like if we were to cut of every form of social welfare, and keep taxes the same we could reduce national debt by like a trillion a year. I haven't looked into the numbers though

Reality blows

[Yardjass]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

they had basically delivered their country out of a depression by the time WW2 even started, which is kinda before slaves came into the workforce. Also most of their prisoner slave labor did a real shitty job and were regulated to shit that didn't matter much, and when they did work on important shit it was at the very end of the war when it was basically all over. Anyway, the point is, They didn't have any slaves when they brought themselves out of the great depression.

I feel like if we were to cut of every form of social welfare, and keep taxes the same we could reduce national debt by like a trillion a year. I haven't looked into the numbers though

Reality blows

Based on what I'm paying in taxes, it would take a little over a decade for me to pay back my "portion" of the debt. Seeing what they waste my tax dollars on, and what they should be spending them on but don't, I sure as hell ain't paying more.

I think a lot of people are feeling a huge disconnect with these people who spend the money. The only debt I have right now that I couldn't pay off immediately if I had to, is a house. That isn't how congress operates, and what's worse, for some reason they seem to think it's okay to not only spend more than they have, but spend it on wasteful shit and not really exercise any self control at all.

But yes, you hit the nail on welfare. It sickens me to know that I go to work every day and bust my ass to make this place better, and meanwhile, there's people out there who sell drugs and double dip into welfare and all sorts of other programs, and they make more than I do. Until that sort of shit stops, this situation isn't going to improve.

You know what? We have a democratic process. You know what we need? There should be a form when you file your taxes with a bunch of boxes. You can check off things like "military/defense", "schools/education", "infrastructure", "welfare programs", "other" and fill your own in, etc. they CAN'T spend your money in any area you didn't check. How many people you think would check fucking welfare, corporate welfare, or useless earmarks? I'm sure they'd find ways to weasel their way into your money based on loop holes anyway, but if that could be made to work properly, it would be amazing.

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by Yardjass

You know what? We have a democratic process. You know what we need? There should be a form when you file your taxes with a bunch of boxes. You can check off things like "military/defense", "schools/education", "infrastructure", "welfare programs", "other" and fill your own in, etc. they CAN'T spend your money in any area you didn't check. How many people you think would check fucking welfare, corporate welfare, or useless earmarks? I'm sure they'd find ways to weasel their way into your money based on loop holes anyway, but if that could be made to work properly, it would be amazing.

^ this.

can you imagine how many people would pick the first three?
To make that work there would have to be laws made that funds couldn't be transferred between tax categories.

I've always thought that the social welfare aspect of things should never have been made an institution, they should have left social responsibility up to charities, churches, etc. That way the empathy of those who work could be voluntary and managed by those institutions. kinda like what was listed above.

I know someone who was a very hard worker, and a skilled carpenter, and upon signing up for welfare just doesn't do anything anymore. he is old, but it is sickening to see how free money can corrupt a hard working member of western civilization.

[KAT-PWR]

While you guys have very good points in that the welfare system needs to be HIGHLY regulated and constantly monitored for abuse, I think it's fucked up to simply say things like "welfare should be left to charity" or "people should have the option to exempt their taxes from supporting it"
You think families and people should be homeless/etc when born with severe mental disorders/deformation/etc? I think you'd feel real fucking differently about that shit if you or someone you loved were in that position.
Should people who are in accidents that cause brain damage simply be told "sucks bro" goodluck with your life, oh by the way here's your medical bill too.

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

While you guys have very good points in that the welfare system needs to be HIGHLY regulated and constantly monitored for abuse, I think it's fucked up to simply say things like "welfare should be left to charity" or "people should have the option to exempt their taxes from supporting it"
You think families and people should be homeless/etc when born with severe mental disorders/deformation/etc? I think you'd feel real fucking differently about that shit if you or someone you loved were in that position.
Should people who are in accidents that cause brain damage simply be told "sucks bro" goodluck with your life, oh by the way here's your medical bill too.

If someone has brain damage from an accident is that automatically someone elses responsibility to pay for said accident? If a typhoon hits the phillipines should I be forced to pay for their welfare? or should it be left up to me whether I give a shit or not? If some slut made terrible life decisions and has an unwanted pregnancy, should I have to pay to have her child murdered in the womb?

" to each according to their own merits", is western civilizations most cherished philosophy, merits of ability,position,priviledge, and charitable inclination are for the individual to develop

You're imposing ethical constructs on everybody rather than allowing them to voluntarily be ethical.

Charity is what should be there for those folks that have real issues, 95% of people on welfare are a bunch of poor,lazy,assholes whose "underprivaledge" is the result of their terrible life decisions.

[supersayianjim]

well looks like Hillary is going to get the nod. seems like trump is the only alternative!!

[KAT-PWR]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

If someone has brain damage from an accident is that automatically someone elses responsibility to pay for said accident? If a typhoon hits the phillipines should I be forced to pay for their welfare? or should it be left up to me whether I give a shit or not? If some slut made terrible life decisions and has an unwanted pregnancy, should I have to pay to have her child murdered in the womb?

" to each according to their own merits", is western civilizations most cherished philosophy, merits of ability,position,priviledge, and charitable inclination are for the individual to develop

You're imposing ethical constructs on everybody rather than allowing them to voluntarily be ethical.

Charity is what should be there for those folks that have real issues, 95% of people on welfare are a bunch of poor,lazy,assholes whose "underprivaledge" is the result of their terrible life decisions.

Like I said, I totally agree with you about welfare needing to be extremely regulated and consistently monitored so that those 95% of people that are riding the system.
However I strongly disagree with you in denying responsibility to help your fellow fellow man; eg. Disabled. We have different fundamentals. Health-care is my career and passion.

[Yardjass]

Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

Like I said, I totally agree with you about welfare needing to be extremely regulated and consistently monitored so that those 95% of people that are riding the system.
However I strongly disagree with you in denying responsibility to help your fellow fellow man; eg. Disabled. We have different fundamentals. Health-care is my career and passion.

Well maybe people wouldn't be so against it if it wasn't abused so much. Welfare is no different than a lot of other good things that start out very well meaning and then get ruined because a bunch of fucking assholes with no self control, abuse them.

And no, I don't feel bad about eliminating welfare and leaving it up to charities and religious institutions. I work long hours, including lots of holidays and weekends, at great personal sacrifice to fix machines that go out and rain firey hell down on people who mean to do this country harm, and who want to take away your freedom to even come on here and bitch about this shit to begin with. They also provide the disaster relief that you're so happy about. I think I do quite enough, thank you very much. I don't need to also be pouring my hard earned tax dollars into welfare slugs so they can have free Obama phones and eat better than I do.

[Highway Riding]

Originally Posted by supersayianjim

well looks like Hillary is going to get the nod. seems like trump is the only alternative!!

Now if only some dem diehards would see this and realize you have to pick your poison.

[Farzam]

My view as a douchey millenial;

Bernie for president.

Don't pull that "you just want free college and health insurance" shit on me, I run a business and am a HS dropout. Fuck formal education.

He's not a racist, a psychopath, or someone who got to where they were riding on the coat tails of their family. He's genuine.

Most of what I don't align with in his plan is shit that congress will stop him from carrying out anyways.

[EDacIouSX]

trump will not get my support but if i have to vote between the other side and trump... i will vote for trump, and that's how it's looking to be now.