Donald Trump For President

[spooled240]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

Hope your not serious, i took the shit down, i didnt really think about people at work. Im sorry, thats my bad

no i didn't get fired. my scrolling skills are superb.

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by VNG704

What I hate about Trump is his campaign strategy. I don't know if he's really a racist or a xenophobe, but he definately used fear and hate to push himself to presidency. Basic strategy elites use to control the common people, divide and conquer. You cannot be a leader, President of the United fking States by starting out dividing the nation. It's going to be a difficult presidency for Mr. Trump. Voted to support Trump on this poll because he's our President and I want the US to succeed.

Trump didn't do that, the media did, and it backfired on them. Now instead of Trump being elected with the support of a bunch of level headed individuals, he was elected by (or at least portrayed by the media as being elected by) a bunch of irrational, hateful backwater hicks.




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[Future240]

Originally Posted by spooled240

no i didn't get fired. my scrolling skills are superb.

Speaking of


*Puts on Mod Hat*




To kashira kureijii, please refrain from posting things like that on Zilvia. I am not pinking you as you did remove it before I saw them (I can see your edits if I so choose to) gore/death photos are equal to porn on zilvia in the NFSW category. I do thank you for taking them down so quickly.






In other news


http://www.proudcons.com/ben-carson-...egacy-is-gone/

[VNG704]

Originally Posted by Frank_Jaeger

And here I thought it was the overtly biased media desperately portraying Trump as those things in an attempt to make him lose the election. I didn't realize parading as a racist homophobic xenophobic bigot was so alluring, but with all these informative Facebook posts claiming America is collectively racist homophobic xenophobic, it must be true! Thanks for enlightening me.

Instead of focusing on illegal immigration in a more mature way he chose to label the Mexican immigrants rapists, criminals, and "not the best people." That's hate and that's fear mongering.

[VNG704]

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

Trump didn't do that, the media did, and it backfired on them. Now instead of Trump being elected with the support of a bunch of level headed individuals, he was elected by (or at least portrayed by the media as being elected by) a bunch of irrational, hateful backwater hicks.




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But did he not call the MExicans that are coming here rapists and criminals? He did. I know he ended that statement with "I assume some of them are good." Well, duh! Nice save, Donald. He won because Hillary lost, not because he makes a good Pres. He won because the Dems wanted Clinton instead of Sanders.

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by spooled240

no i didn't get fired. my scrolling skills are superb.

Good job, NSFW ninja


To be fair, some are actually rapists and criminals, ive worked with illegals who said they didnt think a lot of the people coming over are good ones, and kinda hinted that a pretty good amount of them arent good news. Illegals themselves told that to me, so you cant think what ya want about it.

Definitely need to have zero tolerance for immigrants and crime, if you"re an immigrant, you"re a guest here, and need to act appropriately . The second they commit a significant crime i think they should be deported immediately, and barred from ever entering the country again.


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[Future240]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

Definitely need to have zero tolerance for immigrants and crime, if you"re an immigrant, you"re a guest here, and need to act appropriately . The second they commit a significant crime i think they should be deported immediately, and barred from ever entering the country again.


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I agree with most of this, except zero tolerance, That is never a good idea. There are always exceptional situations to consider


If someone is here and commits a crime. I agree certain crimes warrant deportation. Violent crimes, sexual crimes (not peeing out doors or getting caught getting busy in a park) theft above a certain $ amount etc.


Get convicted, get sent back.


Now I also have to play devils advocate.


This could lead to some law enforcement officer laying on heavy charges trying to get people deported based on their own bias beliefs.

[rawgarage]

Now honestly, we gotta sit back and let the shit play out....

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by VNG704

But did he not call the MExicans that are coming here rapists and criminals? He did. I know he ended that statement with "I assume some of them are good." Well, duh! Nice save, Donald. He won because Hillary lost, not because he makes a good Pres. He won because the Dems wanted Clinton instead of Sanders.

He was referring to illegal immigrants. People already subverting the immigration system the country has in place, not ALL Mexicans. This has been made clear by Trump, his admin, the majority of his supporters...

People aren't out there right now commiting mass hate crimes against minority communities, despite the amount of 'fear' the people protesting say they have.
People are protesting while dems and repubs are watching them , waiting for ignorant protests to turn into riotous violence

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

Definitely need to have zero tolerance for immigrants and crime, if you"re an immigrant, you"re a guest here, and need to act appropriately . The second they commit a significant crime i think they should be deported immediately, and barred from ever entering the country again.

Where are they going to go? No one is going to take a criminal back. That's why we need to tighten the immigration belt buckle and say, "Alleged xynophobia/racism be damned, we only want good people here." If you're a good person, get in line. If you don't want to get in line, then youre clearly ready to subvert the rest of American law during your stay.

[VNG704]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

He was referring to illegal immigrants. People already subverting the immigration system the country has in place, not ALL Mexicans. This has been made clear by Trump, his admin, the majority of his supporters...

People aren't out there right now commiting mass hate crimes against minority communities, despite the amount of 'fear' the people protesting say they have.
People are protesting while dems and repubs are watching them , waiting for ignorant protests to turn into riotous violence



Where are they going to go? No one is going to take a criminal back. That's why we need to tighten the immigration belt buckle and say, "Alleged xynophobia/racism be damned, we only want good people here." If you're a good person, get in line. If you don't want to get in line, then youre clearly ready to subvert the rest of American law during your stay.

Oh I see. The illegals are the rapist criminals. Um hm.

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by VNG704

Oh I see. The illegals are the rapist criminals. Um hm.

Oh I see. All illegals are angels crossing the border from heaven

[VNG704]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

Oh I see. All illegals are angels crossing the border from heaven

Lol. Wow, all I gotta say about that reply.

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by VNG704

Lol. Wow, all I gotta say about that reply.

Tuck Frump

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

Tuck Frump

I remember that shitty video haha
They paid this asian chick to say he hates Asians even though that was never said or implied ever.

[SimpleS14]

Thoughts on Trump appointing Steve Bannon to Chief Strategist?

IMO, if Trump wanted to separate himself from being labeled as racist or a xenophobe...maybe you don't pick a guy like Steve Bannon....

[Future240]

Not a good pick. I seen conservatives on /r/conservative saying how he is an alt right member.

[kashira kureijii]

Alot of the racist claims against bannon are unfounded though, most are based on what his ex wife says, and shes just trying to get money. I think its an alright pick, theyre just spreading rumors cuz republicans want one of their patsy"s in charge


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[kashira kureijii]

this came up in my youtube feed haha

I lmao'd when they re-enact trumps military school days and him getting slapped in the face

the last 5 minutes is unrelated though

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

Alot of the racist claims against bannon are unfounded though, most are based on what his ex wife says, and shes just trying to get money. I think its an alright pick, theyre just spreading rumors cuz republicans want one of their patsy"s in charge

Breitbart. Can't forget he was a main driver behind that site.

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Breitbart. Can't forget he was a main driver behind that site.

And breitbart is racist how? I mean i dont subscribe to it, but you"re gonna have to give a definitive example

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

And breitbart is racist how? I mean i dont subscribe to it, but you"re gonna have to give a definitive example

This is just IMO, but here are some the headlines/articles floating on that site:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ious-heritage/

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...-renegade-jew/

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/1...ive-and-crazy/

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...remism-terror/

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/0...women-log-off/

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

I don't subscribe to it either, but here are some the headlines/articles floating on that site:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ious-heritage/

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...-renegade-jew/

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/1...ive-and-crazy/

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...remism-terror/

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/0...women-log-off/

none of these are racist, the last one has to do with women not race (its being taken out of context too, they're saying if you're not tough enough for the internet all you have to do is log off, there's no way it can hurt you, stop making a big deal out of it "basically" ).

I can't really see anything racist in any of these statements, the Jew one was in reference to that guy being a Jew yet have a different opinion to what most american jews have in relation to israel, I heard them talk about it on NPR this morning, one of the head editors of breitbart is a jew.
The confederate flag thing is about a culture that people are trying to do away with, you dislike it possibly cuz your from the north.White people have every right to portray their culture and history, saying that they aren't allowed to have opinions on it is racist, and it feeds into the whole "white people have no culture" thing that every idiot has been spouting lately
The islamist one is fully legitimate as well, islamic terror is a legitimate concern there's no denying that.
Birth control often has shit tons of estrogen, and has a legitimate scientific effect on the psychology of women. Do you understand how birth control works and its physiological effects on the body?
Im fine with birth control, I'm just saying that what they said is a legitimate statement.
Birth control has been proven to make women fatter, because it eliminates the body's need to make very energy-consumptive hormones, this free's up energy for use as stored fat. Being fat will lead to changes in ones self esteem and thus behavior.

Saying any of these is racist is really stretching things to basically mean anything you don't agree with is racist.

[rawgarage]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

The confederate flag thing is about a culture that people are trying to do away with, you dislike it possibly cuz your from the north.White people have every right to portray their culture and history, saying that they aren't allowed to have opinions on it is racist, and it feeds into the whole "white people have no culture" thing that every idiot has been spouting lately

bro the confederate flag has no heritage.... MF'ers only dug it back up to be against the end of segregation. anybody repping that shit since then is misinformed.

its funny when ppl who support the flag wanna claim to be patriotic. oxy-moron AF....

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by rawgarage

bro the confederate flag has no heritage.... MF'ers only dug it back up to be against the end of segregation. anybody repping that shit since then is misinformed.

its funny when ppl who support the flag wanna claim to be patriotic. oxygen moron AF....

Did you skip over the civil war in middle school there bud? It definitely has a heritage. And support what flag? The confederate flag? The American flag? It pisses me off when I see people marching down crenshaw in protest of Trump holding an upside down, graffiti'd, burning American flag saying "TRUMP ISNT MY PRESIDENT". If thats the level of faith and pride you have in your country then you can leave and he really won't be your president.

If you're saying you can't be patriotic while displaying the confederate flag thats also stupid. Thats like saying you can't be a proud American who's gay and has a rainbow flag hanging in their living room.

You're the talking OXY moron here.


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[S14kouki805]

You guys can say whatever the hell you want but the Confederate flag stands for the South that lost in the Civil War, you now the guys that were fighting to keep slavery alive?

It is a flag of racism and bigotry, and no matter how much you try to defend it, it is what it is.

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by S14kouki805

You guys can say whatever the hell you want but the Confederate flag stands for the South that lost in the Civil War, you now the guys that were fighting to keep slavery alive?



It is a flag of racism and bigotry, and no matter how much you try to defend it, it is what it is.

This could develop into a whole can of worms, so ima just say that many people think that the flag is both a symbol of southern history and states rights. 600k white people died in the civil war fighting over shit, people shouldnt be forced to just give up all pride/memory because it offends yalls weak sensibilities.

200k more americans died during the civil war than WW2, its not just a piece of history that man will simply throw away because it offends beta"s .

A common view in the south and with many historians is that the civil war had more to do with long standing rivalries and the rights of states than any other accessory subject. Slaves were just property to the southerners, as sad as it sounds, and it would piss anybody off if something worth hundreds of thousands of dollars was just randomly going to be declared not theirs.
If you spend 200k on a business, and someone in the next state whos party has house/senatorial majority says that you owning the business is wrong, and that the business will be taken without any reparation, you would probably be just as pissed.

At the same time all these blacks were being sold as slaves here (purchased from other black people in Africa), irish people were being sold as slaves in england, so u know, slavery was a very terrible,opportunistic measure of the times.

Anyway, point is, people can remember whatever the hell they want, its their right.

The Romans owned slaves, are we gonna tear down the colloseum?

[SimpleS14]

Yes the last link is not racist, but it also doesn't mean it's not offensive (IMO).

Anyways, all opinions have been stated.....so let's move on as more developments are made around the Trump presidency.

[VNG704]

Originally Posted by kashira kureijii

This could develop into a whole can of worms, so ima just say that many people think that the flag is both a symbol of southern history and states rights. 600k white people died in the civil war fighting over shit, people shouldnt be forced to just give up all pride/memory because it offends yalls weak sensibilities.

200k more americans died during the civil war than WW2, its not just a piece of history that man will simply throw away because it offends beta"s .

A common view in the south and with many historians is that the civil war had more to do with long standing rivalries and the rights of states than any other accessory subject. Slaves were just property to the southerners, as sad as it sounds, and it would piss anybody off if something worth hundreds of thousands of dollars was just randomly going to be declared not theirs.
If you spend 200k on a business, and someone in the next state whos party has house/senatorial majority says that you owning the business is wrong, and that the business will be taken without any reparation, you would probably be just as pissed.

At the same time all these blacks were being sold as slaves here (purchased from other black people in Africa), irish people were being sold as slaves in england, so u know, slavery was a very terrible,opportunistic measure of the times.

Anyway, point is, people can remember whatever the hell they want, its their right.

The Romans owned slaves, are we gonna tear down the colloseum?

Correct me if I'm wrong, govt places can't hold the confederate flags, but people are still free to do so. About your slave ownership and losing business comparison, I get that they thought that way back then, but why are you trying to justifying it. They're people, not property, let the slave owners be upset. Free the people.

[kashira kureijii]

Originally Posted by VNG704

Correct me if I'm wrong, govt places can't hold the confederate flags, but people are still free to do so. About your slave ownership and losing business comparison, I get that they thought that way back then, but why are you trying to justifying it. They're people, not property, let the slave owners be upset. Free the people.

Ya i know we can still have the flags as individuals, i was just giving examples to why breitbart guy isnt racist .

I dont care about slaves or whatever, my ancestors werent even in this country when it happened. History/culture has a right to exist though, so i dont really agree with them tearing down statues of confederates, saying there cant be remembrance day etc. A good percentage of confederate troops were not slave owners, slavery is an accessory issue to that conflict, not the main issue.

We were talking about breitbart not being racist, so we"re kinda off topic


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[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by S14kouki805

You guys can say whatever the hell you want but the Confederate flag stands for the South that lost in the Civil War, you now the guys that were fighting to keep slavery alive?

It is a flag of racism and bigotry, and no matter how much you try to defend it, it is what it is.

The American flag comes from a history of plundering others' land, claiming it as their own, then defending it lol. Don't hear bitchin about how that heritage is reflected in the nation's flag.

The confederate flag means different things to different people. Just because one person views it as a symbol of racism doesn't mean everyone does or should or have to. If you don't like someone else waiving the flag, then you're the one with the problem. If they're racist let them be a dumb racist.

BTW, the controversy over the confederate flag is no different than the controversy behind calling white people 'crackers'. Prejudice and offensive? yes. Do all people see it that way? no. Should people HAVE to view it as prejudice and offensive? no.

If you don't like what someone says or does in the USA, chances are you have the privilege of ignoring it in this day and age.

Also, those brietbart articles weren't really racist. Somewhat ignorant and loud for clickbait, sure. But it's a news media outlet like all the others. Just caters to a different demographic. They're all always saying ignorant shit to stir the masses.