Official old grumpy assholes of zilvia thread

[Corbic]

Tuners in the 90's
"I don't car how much power those engines can make, fuck working on that shit"



Tuners Today
"Holy Shit!! Just a complete rebuild, fuel system replacement and new turbo setup and you can make a shit ton of powwa!! Sign me up!!"

[potatomonkey99]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Tuners Today
"Holy Shit!! Just a complete rebuild, fuel system replacement and new turbo setup and you can make a shit ton of powwa!! Sign me up!!"

This seems pretty backwards lol

TBH the reason why tuner culture even started here in the states was because a few batshit crazy people decided to work on these cars. Same thing with the current gen of tuners/car tuning, some people just decide "fuck it imma wrench on this, I know these cars tune well." Not to mention the bar to access higher performance parts has gotten lower and lower. Now you can get a ching chang spinny thang and an fleabay exhaust manifold for a fraction of the price that custom fabrication and a name brand turbo would have cost 15-20 years ago.

Meanwhile most modern tuners will just throw a shitty Cobb tune onto their mommy/daddy bought WRX/FRS/etc and blow the ringlands within 12 months. They won't bother with actually changing anything about their fuel/turbo setups while spewing shit like "yeah bro my engine can take 450+ hp on stock internals no problem, just gotta turn up the boost lmao"

I know you're probably 30 something but fuck, you sound like a boomer

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by potatomonkey99

This seems pretty backwards lol



TBH the reason why tuner culture even started here in the states was because a few batshit crazy people decided to work on these cars.

Originally Posted by potatomonkey99

Meanwhile most modern tuners will just throw a shitty Cobb tune onto their mommy/daddy bought WRX/FRS/etc and blow the ringlands within 12 months.

I think you confused "tuner" with "teenager".

Originally Posted by potatomonkey99

They won't bother with actually changing anything about their fuel/turbo setups while spewing shit like "yeah bro my engine can take 450+ hp on stock internals no problem, just gotta turn up the boost lmao"

Then you're not a "Tuner" but a kid with a handheld tuner pretending to be a tuner.

Originally Posted by potatomonkey99

I know you're probably 30 something but fuck, you sound like a boomer

I just remember for years people moaning about what A PITA FDs, Z32s and Z16s are to work on. People howled and moaned about thr Z33 being a V6 instead of a I4 or I6. Even the domestic guys cried and bitched about the SOHC and DOHC V8s from Ford - 4.6/5.4.

This is part of the reason Honda 4's, SR20s, 4G63s and 2JZs became so popular. A VG30 and 6G72 are both strong 4-digit capable engines, but nobody wanted to work on them and their popularity never soared like the Inline engines.

Now 30 years later, these once "complicated" and "cramped" engine setups seam simple and straightforward.