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Old 11-02-2005, 12:46 AM   #31
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to tell you the truth (dont tell the FBI) Im waiting tell they can be modd'd before i will buy one, same way i love my cars, modd'd the fuck out... its only an natural impulse hahaha
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my money is going for ps3. i'm a sony fan, not a microsoft fan. some xbox games are fun tho.
so no one on here won it from pepsi? these winners will receive it a few days before USA release date. i'm sure these winners will be ebaying theirs for twice as much hah.
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PS2 > xbox

Truth hurts huh?

I'll also be saving my money for the PS3. I got the PS2 when it first came out, I pre-ordered mine like 6 months before it came out.
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xbox graphics> sony graphics
xbox loading time> sony loading time

sony games>xbox games
sony controller>xbox controller


thats why u need to get both
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If I can't play Chrono Trigger on it, I dont want it.

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thats why u need to get both
lol, sony's controllers are fucking horrendous. they suck ballsack. and the games are debatable, but XBox has pretty much all the good games that PS2 has and if they don't they have a counterpart that is just as good if not better. i know i know, ps2 has final fantasy (gay) and resident evil, wonderful. fuck ps2. my brothers have it so i have it to use when i go home from school but i never use it.
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lol, sony's controllers are fucking horrendous. they suck ballsack. and the games are debatable, but XBox has pretty much all the good games that PS2 has and if they don't they have a counterpart that is just as good if not better. i know i know, ps2 has final fantasy (gay) and resident evil, wonderful. fuck ps2. my brothers have it so i have it to use when i go home from school but i never use it.

Dude, you should try arguing this in Japan...You'd get owned...


But seriously, like I said before. I'm a PS fan, I'm only buying a 360 cause money isn't an issue and I wouldn'y mind play some of the MS games. So why not just get all the systems. Then I don't miss any games.
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lol, sony's controllers are fucking horrendous. they suck ballsack. and the games are debatable, but XBox has pretty much all the good games that PS2 has and if they don't they have a counterpart that is just as good if not better. i know i know, ps2 has final fantasy (gay) and resident evil, wonderful. fuck ps2. my brothers have it so i have it to use when i go home from school but i never use it.
Actually, I agree with smellslikecurry this time... The fact of the matter is that all fundamental reasoning lends itself to Sony having better games, and more of them, as they're supported by ALL of the major game makers. The fact that the controller has not changed majorly is because there was nothing wrong with it and that the PS and PS2 have sold circles around everything they have competed with.
Load time and (to a much lesser extent) graphics, both as he mentioned, are the ONLY fundamental reasons to get an XBox, game selection is still subjective.


... then there beomes that issue of backward compatibilty, so I will wait on PS3, do not own an XBox and will not own an XBox 360.
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1 word - Forza.

Forza is a lot more fun and has much more lasting appeal. may not have quite as realistic driving physics, but it has damage, and cooler (engine swap, turbo, etc) mods than GT4. GT4 was a HUGE let-down. i bought it (my gf has a PS2 she never uses and my brothers have PS2 at home - i'm at school) and i was done w/ it in a couple of days and havent played it since... BOOO!!!
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i wish this was all a moot point though and all games were made for all systems. i wish it worked that way, it'd be much nicer, so people could just buy the system they liked better and have all the games the others do... whoever the person was that decided to make games only for PS2 or only for XBox, i hate you and hope you die.
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1 word - Forza.

Forza is a lot more fun and has much more lasting appeal. may not have quite as realistic driving physics, but it has damage, and cooler (engine swap, turbo, etc) mods than GT3. GT3 was a HUGE let-down.
will the same fervor be there when Forza 4 comes out??? how many copies of Forza sold?? how many copies of GT sold?? exactly...gran tourismo is a timeless game...i find myself going bcak to play gt2 all the time...it has its own appeal...i have forza as well and do enjoy the game but it doesnt come close to how much fun i have playing tourismo

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1 word - Forza.

Forza is a lot more fun and has much more lasting appeal. may not have quite as realistic driving physics, but it has damage, and cooler (engine swap, turbo, etc) mods than GT4. GT4 was a HUGE let-down. i bought it (my gf has a PS2 she never uses and my brothers have PS2 at home - i'm at school) and i was done w/ it in a couple of days and havent played it since... BOOO!!!

OMG you have to be kidding. GT4, besides damage, is a FAR supirior game. Even my unlce who is a DIE HARD XBox fan bought Forza and played it for months came over and played GT4 by me and after a couple hours totally agreed that GT4 was a BETTER game. And I never expected him to say that.
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will the same fervor be there when Forza 4 comes out??? how many copies of Forza sold?? how many copies of GT sold?? exactly...gran tourismo is a timeless game...i find myself going bcak to play gt2 all the time...it has its own appeal...i have forza as well and do enjoy the game but it doesnt come close to how much fun i have playing tourismo

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i'm gonna disagree with you there... however, you cant compare GT, GT2 and GT3 to Forza because it was not around back then. only GT4 and Forza are comparable, which i think Forza gets the edge.

the reason that GT4 sold so many copies is because it was so highly anticipated and supposed to be so much more amazing than GT3, but wasnt at all.

however, you are very right about GT2, that game was awesome. i played the shit out of that game. why? because it was that much better than the original, had much better graphics, and everything all around was leaps and bounds better than the original GT. so if you're bringing into account the whole series of games, GT clearly wins because it has had time and whatnot to get better. BUT, if you just take GT4 vs Forza, which is the only way you really can because there are no previous Forzas, then my vote definately goes to Forza.
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OMG you have to be kidding. GT4, besides damage, is a FAR supirior game. Even my unlce who is a DIE HARD XBox fan bought Forza and played it for months came over and played GT4 by me and after a couple hours totally agreed that GT4 was a BETTER game. And I never expected him to say that.
nope, i am not kidding. how is GT4 better? its a little better physics-wise and might have the advantage somewhat for tracks, but not by a whole lot. otherwise, Forza is far superior in every other aspect.
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Even the graphics on GT4 were better then Forza. and they shouldn't have been. How about the number of cars. Talk about replayability.

Let me ask you a question though. If you could only buy one more racing game for the rest of your life and it HAD to be the next sequel to either GT or Forza, which would it be?

GT5 on PS3 is going to be THE greatest racing game of all time, period. It IS inevitable.
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GT4 had photo mode, which was fun (being an automotive photographer myself). But that got old in a month. GT4 also had tons of tracks, and I liked that, but the racing was just plain boring. There was no challenge in it, you just built a faster car and won. I could try removing modifications to try and guess which power and handling level the opponent was at to make it more of a challenge to myself, but that's a pain in the butt. On top of that, the cars just felt like they had no weight. I honestly can't see how you can say GT4 has better physics unless you've never played Forza. When you drive a 4000lb Aston Martin, it handles like a 4000lb Aston Martin. When you drive a tiny little Elise, it feels like a tiny little Elise.

Anyway. One word, that defines the winner by LEAPS and BOUNDS.

Multiplayer.

Forza multiplayer, with it's classed based system, rocks so hard I never get sick of it, I don't care how few tracks there are, how few cars (honestly, what would you rather drive, 10 versions of a Skyline, or Ferraris, Koeniseggs, and the ME-Four Twelve.). It just never got old.

Plus Forza has a downhill/uphill mountain track, damage and customization.

Even the controls are better, with the triggers being brake and gas its FAR easier to control the amount of pressure vs. the X and [] buttons on ps2.




Anyway, back on subject, the PS3 isn't slated to come out for a while, why not just get both? By the time the PS3 is out you should have the cash saved up all over again.
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Even the graphics on GT4 were better then Forza. and they shouldn't have been. How about the number of cars. Talk about replayability.

Let me ask you a question though. If you could only buy one more racing game for the rest of your life and it HAD to be the next sequel to either GT or Forza, which would it be?

GT5 on PS3 is going to be THE greatest racing game of all time, period. It IS inevitable.
i havent heard anything about GT5, but they better step it up. honestly, i LOVE the car damage, it makes it a lot more fun to me. i mean come on, in GT4 you can slam into a wall at 150mph and just keep going on like nothing happened, that to me is fucking gay.

GT4 definately has the advantage in # of cars, but Forza has quite a few and some awesome ones too, i love how there's ferarris in it. the turbo Enzo is a fucking awesome car. GT4 has a shitload of cars, but a lot of them are retarded and useless and ones you'd never use in the game or even want to use.
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GT4 had photo mode, which was fun (being an automotive photographer myself). But that got old in a month. GT4 also had tons of tracks, and I liked that, but the racing was just plain boring. There was no challenge in it, you just built a faster car and won. I could try removing modifications to try and guess which power and handling level the opponent was at to make it more of a challenge to myself, but that's a pain in the butt. On top of that, the cars just felt like they had no weight. I honestly can't see how you can say GT4 has better physics unless you've never played Forza. When you drive a 4000lb Aston Martin, it handles like a 4000lb Aston Martin. When you drive a tiny little Elise, it feels like a tiny little Elise.

Anyway. One word, that defines the winner by LEAPS and BOUNDS.

Multiplayer.

Forza multiplayer, with it's classed based system, rocks so hard I never get sick of it, I don't care how few tracks there are, how few cars (honestly, what would you rather drive, 10 versions of a Skyline, or Ferraris, Koeniseggs, and the ME-Four Twelve.). It just never got old.

Plus Forza has a downhill/uphill mountain track, damage and customization.

Even the controls are better, with the triggers being brake and gas its FAR easier to control the amount of pressure vs. the X and [] buttons on ps2.

Anyway, back on subject, the PS3 isn't slated to come out for a while, why not just get both? By the time the PS3 is out you should have the cash saved up all over again.
yay!! another forza fan, lol. and the controls are FAR better for XBox, i like steering with the analog stick too, its much more fun than using a directional button like w/ the PS2 controllers cuz its just too awkward to hold the PS2 controller and be able to use the stick to steer.
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Why don't you answer my question?!

Let me ask you a question though. If you could only buy one more racing game for the rest of your life and it HAD to be the next sequel to either GT or Forza, which would it be?
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yay!! another forza fan, lol. and the controls are FAR better for XBox, i like steering with the analog stick too, its much more fun than using a directional button like w/ the PS2 controllers cuz its just too awkward to hold the PS2 controller and be able to use the stick to steer.

I don't bother with weak ass controllers for GT4. I bought the Driving Force Pro. It makes the experience a million times better. The Wheel for Forza got horrible reviews. The Driving Force Pro however was completly raved about.
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yay!! another forza fan, lol. and the controls are FAR better for XBox, i like steering with the analog stick too, its much more fun than using a directional button like w/ the PS2 controllers cuz its just too awkward to hold the PS2 controller and be able to use the stick to steer.
Dude, you can use the anolog stick on PS controllers too
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Why don't you answer my question?!

Let me ask you a question though. If you could only buy one more racing game for the rest of your life and it HAD to be the next sequel to either GT or Forza, which would it be?
i told you i wasnt sure because i hadnt seen what the plans for the new GT or Forza are. but, if both games stay pretty much the same, just update and add some new shit, which i'm guessing they will - they'll both probably have more cars, more tracks and better graphics... i'll take Forza because i don't think GT will get model damage and will stay along the lines it has now for modding the cars.

so, given the progressions of the GT series and given how Forza is right now and how it should be... i'd take Forza... HOWEVER, i'd have to read up on both and see what people are saying the development will be like.

good enough answer for you? either way, your question sucks because my brothers will probably get PS3 and i can get GT5 for that while i'm getting XBox 360 and the next Forza most likely and other people will probably do the same... so that question is invalid.
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Yeah I have the Driving Force Feedback, (anyone wanna buy it lol.) It just doesnt feel realistic. You simply cannot drift with it because the servo in it is too slow.

And I don't know which game I would have, because neither of them exists yet. If I had to choose between GT4 and Forza, FORZA.
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I don't bother with weak ass controllers for GT4. I bought the Driving Force Pro. It makes the experience a million times better. The Wheel for Forza got horrible reviews. The Driving Force Pro however was completly raved about.
the wheel was also $100+ so fuck that. we're not talking about wheels, we're talking controllers. obviously a $100+ wheel is going to be amazing to play a racing game with.
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Dude, you can use the anolog stick on PS controllers too
yes you can, but it feels weird the way you have to hold the controller and the stick just doesnt feel right.
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lack of backward compatibility for xbox 360 makes me sad.
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The wheel was $150...

But anyway, like I said before we can argue all day and all night. But the beauty of this is at least we have a choice! Let's talk about not having a choice with football games because of EA. Now there's an issue!
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PS2 games are mostly horrible IMO. Xbox has more PC-style games which is what i like. I like x-box games AND controller better, especially for driving games. I like to use L and R for brake and accelerate.

I never liked the GTA series too much, but i loved GT3
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PS2 games are mostly horrible IMO. Xbox has more PC-style games which is what i like. I like x-box games AND controller better, especially for driving games. I like to use L and R for brake and accelerate.

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