The 2020 Presidential Race

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

I gotzzz mines so fuck all yall! Problem??

It's a good thing those tax breaks don't sunset...…….for the top 1% that is. If I am 1%, I gotzzzz minesss, so fuck all yall!! Problem?? Why yall's not rich?? It's America right?? American dream right??

But the ones in the 1% dont ask why the rest arent rich.....


Only poor people BELEVE in the american dream...the rich LIVE it.



This is the america we live in. It will never change..

[RalliartRsX]

American dream

30 year home loan, 10 year student loan and 7 year car loan......and if that didn't keep you poor, you can also go bankrupt from a paper cut....


#amirite

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

American dream

30 year home loan, 10 year student loan and 7 year car loan......and if that didn't keep you poor, you can also go bankrupt from a paper cut....


#amirite

America #greatest country in the world!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

American dream

30 year home loan, 10 year student loan and 7 year car loan......and if that didn't keep you poor, you can also go bankrupt from a paper cut....


#amirite

Yet, in spite of these and other imperfections, over a million people risk literal life and limb to migrate here every year. And, after they're here they still think its worth it and are extremely grateful. It seems your privilege of being born here doesn't allow you to see this great country the same way.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Yet, in spite of these and other imperfections, over a million people risk literal life and limb to migrate here every year. And, after they're here they still think its worth it and are extremely grateful. It seems your privilege of being born here doesn't allow you to see this great country the same way.

……...I wasn't born here and emigrated here in my teens. My family understood the opportunities this land allowed, especially in terms of education and my parents made sure, education was drilled into our heads and that allowed us to flourish as a family while living within our means (however, that doesn't mean we do not understand loan/investments, like ownership of a house for instance and why our generation were able to purchase houses at a fairly early age and not driving the latest 60-70K hotness because.....I do not hard park). My mom never finished highschool and only got her GED degree at the age of ~53. She got her BS a few years later...which this country so kindly allowed

So before you make another snap judgement, please kindly take your time to use the opportunities as presented in this great country (like Google) to understand sarcasm.....

Thanks!

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

……...I wasn't born here and emigrated here in my teens. My family understood the opportunities this land allowed, especially in terms of education and my parents made sure, education was drilled into our heads and that allowed us to flourish as a family while living within our means (however, that doesn't mean we do not understand loan/investments, like ownership of a house for instance and why our generation were able to purchase houses at a fairly early age and not driving the latest 60-70K hotness because.....I do not hard park). My mom never finished highschool and only got her GED degree at the age of ~53. She got her BS a few years later...which this country so kindly allowed

So before you make another snap judgement, please kindly take your time to use the opportunities as presented in this great country (like Google) to understand sarcasm.....

Thanks!

Huh, and in spite of all that you still seem to hate this country.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Huh, and in spite of all that you still seem to hate this country.

So thanks for proving ignorance is bliss.....
Please go ahead and point out
a) Where ever said I hated this country
b) Anything of my statements made on this page are false

I am 100% certain you cannot point this out. Why?? Because it is a flat out inaccurate and false statement. Just because I am not a fan of this current administration, does not equate to me hating this country. If you think the two are on in the same, then with the same disdain you carry for Obama, I can label you a domestic terrorist in that same breath.

See how that works?? Good.

Carry on.

[S14rebuild]

U can build a mudhut for free.....

[RalliartRsX]

……..Ignorance is bliss??

Yeah, same same. America dream! Huuuhhhaaaa!!

[lewisfk]

"I understand the military. I know the military." - Donald Trump. Then he passes tax bill that screws a great portion of them! If you are doing well, G-BLESS U! I'm just scratching my head over his decisions.


https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/tax-ref...eir-deductions

[RalliartRsX]

Ps trump didn't even bother to have the troops he pulled from Syria even bother to actually leave Syria.

Wtf.....mr bonespurs himself which dodged the service

[RalliartRsX]

Assumption and snap baseless accusations are like assholes, everyone has one...…..

And it seems you picked up on that point via your last sentence.

And atleast we share a common ground now as I am also in some agreement with Obama's statements. So indirectly he has united us under one umbrella

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Future240]

Even Wapo says the dems have moved left.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magaz...n/?arc404=true
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/polit...oll/index.html
https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-extreme-left/

Some opinon pieces

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/02/o...rats-left.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/04/o...ogressive.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/o...democrats.html

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Future240]

Originally Posted by gbaby2089

So let's see:

WaPo piece touches upon a few democrats who represent the far left edge of the party.

CNN is a poll of the opinion of the average American voter. A woefully uninformed group. BTW, this quote here: "Almost 6 in 10 men (57%) say Democrats have moved too far left as do 55% of whites with a college degree." Those are Trump voters saying that lol. Their opinions should not inform democratic policy positions.

Investors.com is just not something I want to give the click to for ad revenue stuff.

NYT opinion pieces are a scourge. David Brooks, Bret Stephens, etc., are too busy infecting the NYT offices with bed bugs to have any decent takes.

A FEW members of the party are trying to pull the party left (as they should), but the party itself is not really any further left than it was a few years ago.

Look at how few democrats have actually COMMITTED to saying they support single payer healthcare. Look at how few democrats are opposed to sending weapons to Saudi Arabia to commit atrocities in Yemen, in a coalition with Al-Qaeda. Etc.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/polit...ars/index.html


https://qz.com/1580091/alexandria-oc...ats-are-going/

^^^ That one has some really good graphs showing policy.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

You and reality aren’t on the same page. Sorry man. Robert Johnson definitely thinks you’re wrong. I doubt there’s even another person who agrees with you politically in this thread that that doesn’t agree that the Democrat party hasn’t moved far left. It’s literally one (not THE) of the reasons Trump is in office. I personally know lifetime democrats that are voting trump in 2020 because they don’t recognize their own party. Most down to earth Americans are sick of identity politics and a not in favor of socialist policies. Hence, Trump. The Left is doubling down on these policies. Hell even people like Warren, Biden, Hilary are FAR more left than they ever have been in their careers. Their track records show that. Their being pushed that way by the far left socialists that are taking over the party like AOC and the gang. Here’s a quote from a very outspoken lefty I work with a few weeks ago regarding identity politics and political correctness gone awry “you want trump to fucking win in 2020, keep this shit up. I consider myself a Liberal but some of this shit is too much”. I didn’t say shit I just raised my endows like “indeed”.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

You and reality aren’t on the same page. Sorry man. Robert Johnson definitely thinks you’re wrong. I doubt there’s even another person who agrees with you politically in this thread that that doesn’t agree that the Democrat party hasn’t moved far left. It’s literally one (not THE) of the reasons Trump is in office. I personally know lifetime democrats that are voting trump in 2020 because they don’t recognize their own party. Most down to earth Americans are sick of identity politics and a not in favor of socialist policies. Hence, Trump. The Left is doubling down on these policies. Hell even people like Warren, Biden, Hilary are FAR more left than they ever have been in their careers. Their track records show that. Their being pushed that way by the far left socialists that are taking over the party like AOC and the gang. Here’s a quote from a very outspoken lefty I work with a few weeks ago regarding identity politics and political correctness gone awry “you want trump to fucking win in 2020, keep this shit up. I consider myself a Liberal but some of this shit is too much”. I didn’t say shit I just raised my endows like “indeed”.

100% truth

[exitspeed]

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/18/...ernment-fleet/

Here’s another example of something I totally back trump on. And so did every American auto maker. Annnnd California responds in the most anti-American way possible, by saying they won’t be buying American cars for any of the states fleet vehicles. Wow. Cali should just secede already.

[midnight zenki]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/18/...ernment-fleet/

Here’s another example of something I totally back trump on. And so did every American auto maker. Annnnd California responds in the most anti-American way possible, by saying they won’t be buying American cars for any of the states fleet vehicles. Wow. Cali should just secede already.

The article clearly says that Ford is still considered amongst the automakers California would potentially buy from.

[exitspeed]

Originally Posted by midnight zenki

The article clearly says that Ford is still considered amongst the automakers California would potentially buy from.

So they are only planning on buying American CUVs then. Further burdening California tax payers. Guess I shouldn’t really worry about it. Not my problem.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/18/...ernment-fleet/

Here’s another example of something I totally back trump on. And so did every American auto maker. Annnnd California responds in the most anti-American way possible, by saying they won’t be buying American cars for any of the states fleet vehicles. Wow. Cali should just secede already.

I recall, when trump became president he stated he will be bring factory jobs back.

GM closed 3 of their factories this year......

Are you going to acknowledge/place the blame on trump?? And if not, please explain, considering the shift in market focus (with gas prices being low) to SUVs/trucks (because fuck yeaa AMERICA! I need my 90K SUV to drive the kids to the grocery store and back instead of a fuel efficient wagon) and the factories losing money hand over fist by keeping these factories open.



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...een-mary-barra

[midnight zenki]

California is exercising their right to purchase goods from vendors that can meet their desired requirements. If the other companies want to be competitive they need to step up or not.

This is free market capitalism embodied.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[feito]

Originally Posted by exitspeed

You and reality aren’t on the same page. Sorry man. Robert Johnson definitely thinks you’re wrong. I doubt there’s even another person who agrees with you politically in this thread that that doesn’t agree that the Democrat party hasn’t moved far left. It’s literally one (not THE) of the reasons Trump is in office. I personally know lifetime democrats that are voting trump in 2020 because they don’t recognize their own party. Most down to earth Americans are sick of identity politics and a not in favor of socialist policies. Hence, Trump. The Left is doubling down on these policies. Hell even people like Warren, Biden, Hilary are FAR more left than they ever have been in their careers. Their track records show that. Their being pushed that way by the far left socialists that are taking over the party like AOC and the gang. Here’s a quote from a very outspoken lefty I work with a few weeks ago regarding identity politics and political correctness gone awry “you want trump to fucking win in 2020, keep this shit up. I consider myself a Liberal but some of this shit is too much”. I didn’t say shit I just raised my endows like “indeed”.

We are in a bad spot as a nation where such radical proposals get any kind of support.... you know things are bad when fbho is considered not liberal enough

[RalliartRsX]

It's almost like the 3 recent candidates trump stumped for in DEEP red districts and states didnt all just lose their seats....

Oh wait, they did........

[exitspeed]

Like literally happened in the last couple days.

#toofarleft

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lef...the-system.amp

Former President Barack Obama is facing a new wave of criticism from the Democratic Party's left flank after cautioning Democrats about going too radical with their policy proposals — in the latest sign of a growing rift between the popular 44th president and the party's activist base.

Obama on Friday warned 2020 Democratic presidential hopefuls to pay attention to what voters actually think, claiming at a gathering of Democratic donors that most of them don’t want to “tear down the system” and that many Democrats “just don’t want to see crazy stuff.” Members of his party soon turned on him, using the hashtag #TooFarLeft.

Again, real life.

[RalliartRsX]

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[exitspeed]

I agree we should do more for mental health in this country.