ok this forum is gone to hell

[GotDriftS14]

those are the most gargantuan letters ive ever seen in a forum.

[silvia S13]

I love this forum, I have only been here for 10 minutes and I am reading every post.  it's awesome.

[HippoSleek]

I agree - we're all going to hell around here.  What else is new?

The last week or so, this place has become moron central.  I agree that Zilvia should have a better rep.  Like some others, I am an FA refugee.  I like the sense of community here.  Over there, posting about taking your 240 to a track day or an autox will be moved and locked (unless it's in SoCal - then you can have it pinned and post pictures).  I don't like that the intellectual level trumps the idea of fun and commaraderie.

Don't like it leave.  Can't stand the heat - get out.

As for OT - I'd note that every car board w/ an OT forum is a complete waste of space.  We've got enough assholes around here without inviting them w/ pictures of ricequeens and pot use stories.

[240 2NR]

I'm perosnally one those who requested MORE moderator involvement.  

For the past few months I can't recall any posts being locked, aside from one or two that were way out there.  While right now we seem to be a little too sensitive as to what constitutes off topic, we are at least moving in the right direction.  I'm sure in a week or two it will settle as people begin to start posting more on topic, and the mods loosen their grip.  We ARE reforming, if you don't like it you won't be missed.  

Honestly, the 240 community has gone from a small tight knit group to an explosion of new comers who in many cases are moving from other camps or are very young and jumping on the boat after reading one magazine article.  Then run around claiming to be SR experts and either posting misinformation or asking a trillion newbie questions that have been answered a trillion times.

Think before you speak, err type and most of this hassle can be avoided.

[AKADriver]

I come here pretty much specifically because it's stupid <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> &nbsp;Yeah, it'd be nice if there was an intelligent 240SX forum without a hard line focus on tech and a west coast bias.

If you want to see a forum that works well, I think the VWVortex is a perfect example. &nbsp;Of course I'm not sure how it'd translate to the 240SX community, which is smaller and obviously covers a smaller range of cars. &nbsp;If only there was a way to unite the Nissan community entirely like that, instead of having >5 different big Z-car forums, 3 different big 240SX forums (not to mention a lot more international S-chassis forums), Sentra/SR20DE forums, 510 forums...

[shady]

most people here act like this forum is there life maybe they need to get out more and the off topic posts wont bother them as much... it is just a forum on the internet calm down
if its an off topic post DONT READ IT no need to have a big cry over it or lock it ..even when there is a serious question
most of the time SEARCH is said what is the point of having a forum if all the people with knowledge on 240sx`s are to lazy to type anything but SEARCH and all other posts that dont fit into the SEACH category are locked... and if i went to a meet and a bunch of kids were argueing who has the best forum i would laugh at the internet pussys who really cares

[AceInHole]

lol.... you'd think it's the off-topic posters that need to "get a life"... maybe so they'd stop posting stupid posts just to post at all.

[West]

Closed. Ill post a Poll to see what everyone thinks of a OT Section.

[240 2NR]

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The reason we tell you to search, or at least I do is usually two fold:

1- it was answered last year, last week, yesterday, and five minutes ago. &nbsp;Go to page 2 and you'll find your answer

2- you will find more answers in the search and be able to formulate a more intellectual question once you get past reading through the most basic of answers. &nbsp;FAQ is usually a good spot as well since it includes mostly correct information on common posts.

If I had to make this a three part answer, the other reason I will reply with search is to answer a vague question. &nbsp;Something like "what tires should I get", tells me the person doesn't know much about tires. &nbsp;Variables left to be answered include, price, performance, number seasons needed, tread wear, will they be used for competition, etc, even before a valid answer can be made. &nbsp;I'll recomend some Kuhmo 712's but that won't work if you need some 60000mile all season tires.

[West]

I don't think I need to even post on this again, comes up way to often, use the search if you want know how allot of us feel.

s13grl closed a bunch of posts because 20 of the 30 posts yesterday in Chat were OT, Although a few were OT enough to be allowed, such as the Photoshop one and the car mag and maybe a few more. I am glad everyone has at least started to use the OT: title when posting, makes it ez for allot of us to just ignore those posts that we want. Maybe its my fault for not underlining set rules for the mod's. Id like to think that we can get past with just common since, but obviously everyone takes everything way to personal on this forum.

I have serious debates on starting a OT section. Sometimes I think its what we must do, but I agree with HippoSleek on the fact that an OT section is a waste of space.