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*DALAZ_68* · 10-16-2007, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream240

The "camshaft position sensor" is attached to the Dist. housing on the S13/S14. The "crank position sensor" is only used in S14s and is attached to the bellhousing. FYI

He would be throwing an 11 and 21 codes respectively if he was having a problem with the CMPS. If that was the case, then you could assume a problem with either the cam positions themselves or more than likely a faulty sensor.

Do we have ANY codes pulled yet?

well obviously one Crank positioning sensor is automatically removed from the pic

im just throwing things out there that people told me would prevent me from getting spark

Dream240 · 10-16-2007, 03:23 PM

Well judging from the experience of alot of Zilvians lately, I'm just trying to keep the definitons clear to avoid confusion. And yes the crank sensor would obviously not be a culprit here.

CPS is sometimes referred to as either the "Cam" position sensor, or the "Crank" position sensor.

daryl337 · 10-16-2007, 03:44 PM

he needs to tell us.. does he have NO SPARK (as in you can't see crap).. or does he have CRAPPY spark?

BIIIIIIIIIG difference.

s13bm · 10-16-2007, 07:34 PM

i got the code 21 but we replaced so much crap the only thing i can think of next would be a bad wire somewhrer

*DALAZ_68* · 10-16-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream240

Well judging from the experience of alot of Zilvians lately, I'm just trying to keep the definitons clear to avoid confusion.

agreed

im thinking set it to TDC and make sure like really make sure ur ecu is bolted down properly..hell make sure u have the rite ECU

35suren · 10-16-2007, 10:20 PM

cap and rotor
relpace the sprakplug
wires

or maybe the injectors are not fireing right

Dream240 · 10-17-2007, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 35suren

cap and rotor
relpace the sprakplug
wires

or maybe the injectors are not fireing right

You + Car knowledge = fail

What the hell do the injectors have to do with getting spark? Do us all a favor and just stop working on cars altogether.

Oh yeah, and learn how to use "speel cheeck".

Idiot.

s13bm · 10-17-2007, 02:11 PM

i check for power and ground to the ingnition and it has everything just dont kno why i still dont have any spark

pr240sx · 10-17-2007, 02:42 PM

A good way to check the CAM/CRANK position sensor is by removing it for the engine, disconnect plugs and coil wires BUT leave the harness connected. Wi the key on ON position, rotate manually the gear. You should hear the injectors clicking.

If you have power everywhere, even at the coil, I insist, check the ignition module. Its job is to switch power on/off so the coil sparks.
Get a good working one and test. Its simplier than testing the CAM/CRANK sensor and only takes 30 seconds!!!

s13bm · 10-17-2007, 03:02 PM

the ignition module is bolted on right onto the coil right

Dream240 · 10-17-2007, 03:59 PM

No the ignition module is attached to the dist. via the only connector sticking out of the dist. housing.

The part you're thinking of is the ignition power transistor, which is attached to the back of the coil pack and it's mounting bracket.

The other component next to the coil is a simple resistor, which should last you the life of the car.

s13bm · 10-17-2007, 04:26 PM

on the plug to the distributer which ones should have power and ground

racepar1 · 10-18-2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13bm

on the plug to the distributer which ones should have power and ground

Dude, I sent u a WIRING DIAGRAM and testing info on every ignition part I could find and you are still asking wiring questions?

Maybe you should just take it to a shop.

Dream240 · 10-18-2007, 08:10 AM

This is officially the 1 millionth time I've posted this link.

http://www.240edge.com/manuals/usdm-cars.html

get your FSM and solve your problem.

boneout · 01-09-2014, 12:13 AM

So what did it end up being im having a similar problem?

10-16-2007, 03:23 PM	#32
Dream240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Inland Empire, California Age: 46 Posts: 2,188 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Well judging from the experience of alot of Zilvians lately, I'm just trying to keep the definitons clear to avoid confusion. And yes the crank sensor would obviously not be a culprit here. CPS is sometimes referred to as either the "Cam" position sensor, or the "Crank" position sensor. __________________ Don't mess with my monkey...he's loaded.

10-16-2007, 03:44 PM	#33
daryl337 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pac NW Age: 39 Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	he needs to tell us.. does he have NO SPARK (as in you can't see crap).. or does he have CRAPPY spark? BIIIIIIIIIG difference. __________________ This is my clever and witty signature.

10-16-2007, 10:20 PM	#36
35suren Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: san jose Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cap and rotor relpace the sprakplug wires or maybe the injectors are not fireing right __________________ KAZA IS THE NAME YAHURME LOLOLOLOL JK

10-17-2007, 03:59 PM	#41
Dream240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Inland Empire, California Age: 46 Posts: 2,188 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	No the ignition module is attached to the dist. via the only connector sticking out of the dist. housing. The part you're thinking of is the ignition power transistor, which is attached to the back of the coil pack and it's mounting bracket. The other component next to the coil is a simple resistor, which should last you the life of the car. __________________ Don't mess with my monkey...he's loaded.

10-18-2007, 08:10 AM	#44
Dream240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Inland Empire, California Age: 46 Posts: 2,188 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	This is officially the 1 millionth time I've posted this link. http://www.240edge.com/manuals/usdm-cars.html get your FSM and solve your problem. __________________ Don't mess with my monkey...he's loaded.

10-16-2007, 07:34 PM	#34
s13bm Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 35 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i got the code 21 but we replaced so much crap the only thing i can think of next would be a bad wire somewhrer

10-17-2007, 02:11 PM	#38
s13bm Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 35 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i check for power and ground to the ingnition and it has everything just dont kno why i still dont have any spark

10-17-2007, 02:42 PM	#39
pr240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A good way to check the CAM/CRANK position sensor is by removing it for the engine, disconnect plugs and coil wires BUT leave the harness connected. Wi the key on ON position, rotate manually the gear. You should hear the injectors clicking. If you have power everywhere, even at the coil, I insist, check the ignition module. Its job is to switch power on/off so the coil sparks. Get a good working one and test. Its simplier than testing the CAM/CRANK sensor and only takes 30 seconds!!!

10-17-2007, 03:02 PM	#40
s13bm Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 35 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the ignition module is bolted on right onto the coil right

10-17-2007, 04:26 PM	#42
s13bm Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 35 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	on the plug to the distributer which ones should have power and ground

01-09-2014, 12:13 AM	#45
boneout Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: cali Age: 33 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So what did it end up being im having a similar problem?

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