S14 vs. S15 T28 turbos!!!!!!!

[KiLLeR2001]

Originally Posted by mewantkouki

I mod tamparacing.com's nissan section. This thread originated there. I told him exactly what everyone has been saying in this thread. S14 and regular non spec r t28's are the same. They are NOT 2871r's for the love of God! IIRC the only journal bearing t2 flanged t28 comes off a Pulsar. The turbo he was sold is a standard bb s14 / non spec R t28. If it was marketed as a Spec R dual bb turbo, then there can be a dispute. It is pretty evident that wasn't the case though.

All this crap over 10-15hp! I guess he needs to hear everything twice...

S14 vs. S15 T28 turbos!!!!!!!

S15's only came in TWO trims. Spec-S and Spec-R. So for you to say "non Spec-R" tells me you mean Spec-S. And if you knew anything about anything Spec-S models are NON-TURBO which means no T28 at all.

The difference in turbos is based on transmission and transmission only.

14411-69F00 is plain/ball bearing (S14 Kouki turbo)
14411-75F00 is plain/ball bearing (S15 Spec-R AT only)
14411-91F00 is ball bearing (S15 Spec-R MT only)

edit:

The part number below the main part number above will indicate whether or not its plain or ball bearing.

466541 = ball bearing
466543 = plain bearing

So if you have a turbo with part number 14411-69F00 and below it says 466541-, then its an S14 Kouki T28 ball bearing turbo.
But if you have a turbo that says 14411-75F00 and below it says 466543-, then you have an S15 Spec-R AT T28 plain bearing turbo.

[beaux240]

S14 turbos no divider between wastgate and turbine. bb/journal

S15 turbo divider between wastgate and turbine. dual bb.

Only differences between the two which dont make a huge diff

[Sileighty_85]

[colombianbryan]

Man this thread is stupid! It has been disputed so many times! Just look for the part # as sileighty has said multiple times and be done with it...

[KiLLeR2001]

Hmm, it appears 14411-75F00 is Australia-spec...

Jap PS13 14411-50F00
AU/NZ S14 (pre-facelift) 14411-75F00
AU/NZ S14 (facelift) 14411-75F00

Jap S14 (pre-facelift) 14411-69F00
Jap S14 (facelift) 14411-82F01
Jap S14 (Autech/270R) 14411-RP801 (Same as S15 early MT turbo)
Jap/ NZ S15 (early*) 14411-91F00 Manual model only
Jap/ NZ S15 (early*) 14411-69F00 Automatic models

Jap/ NZ/ AU S15 late* 14411-75F00 Same as NZ S14 and same for both Auto and manual

[dorkidori_s13]

who cares, honestly. it was said on page one, youre talking about a whopping 10-15hp at most. i made over 300whp on my last SR with an S14 turbo at 16psi. the turbo worked like a damn champ, held 20psi to 6000rpms (tapered back to 16psi past 6000) and was worth every penny of the $300 i bought it for.

ANYTHING is better than the OEM T25 on a redtop/blacktop. GT28 on an S15 isnt anything super special either. its basically a low end T28, theyre not bad turbos, but if youre gonna spend the money, buy a GT30R and just do it right the first time lol

GT28 from a specR is a great OEM upgrade though. is it worth starting a pissing match between S14 and S15 turbos, NO. they both make about the same power and spool up around the same RPM range, outside of that, AGAIN, who cares.

[mewantkouki]

^ exactly who gives a shit? The answer has been given 5000 times.

Recap: auto s15 and s14 turbos are the same.
6 speed Spec r is different. So the guy who said an s15 only comes with the spec r turbo obviously can't read as I already knew this and said it in the other thread.

[Csomme]

The point is the difference in market cost, along with minor bearing differences. If I paid for a Spec-R DBB turbo, I don't want an S14 Kouki Turbo. It's that simple.

[dorkidori_s13]

Originally Posted by Csomme

The point is the difference in market cost, along with minor bearing differences. If I paid for a Spec-R DBB turbo, I don't want an S14 Kouki Turbo. It's that simple.

its just like any part, if someone wants to spend the money, they need to do research before doing so. however, IT DOESNT REALLY MATTER! BOTH TURBOS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL AND MAKE THE SAME POWER! oi

[Mysterious Driver]

I found the plate after cleaning the dirt/oil that was covering it.

YF 0958 J
14411 - 69F00
466541 - 7001

[glenngineering]

Mysterious Driver you should call me back and tell me your sorry for all the shit you started on the forums and the stuff you said about me ... Because i am a nice person i will still help you out even though you never bought the turbo from me!!!!! I forgive you just as i forgive Doug for scamming me out of my S14 Drift Car that he turned into a Piece of JUNK! What a great deal that was I had $4000.00 in the Cage alone that i built (NOT DOUG) ! THE DEAL Went south!! He decides to put his guys on the car and let Sean drive it talking about i was taking too long Hahahah Where's the car at now??!! He still owe's me $$$ So that is why i give Warning about Z Fever I DO NOT TALK SHIT ... And i will back up every word i say !!!!!

[Sileighty_85]

Originally Posted by Mysterious Driver

I found the plate after cleaning the dirt/oil that was covering it.

YF 0958 J
14411 - 69F00
466541 - 7001

So technically you do have a S15 Turbo.

[Mysterious Driver]

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

So technically you do have a S15 Turbo.

No.

14411-69F00 is plain/ball bearing (S14 Kouki turbo)

Originally Posted by glenngineering

Mysterious Driver you should call me back and tell me your sorry for all the shit you started on the forums and the stuff you said about me ... Because i am a nice person i will still help you out even though you never bought the turbo from me!!!!! I forgive you just as i forgive Doug for scamming me out of my S14 Drift Car that he turned into a Piece of JUNK! What a great deal that was I had $4000.00 in the Cage alone that i built (NOT DOUG) ! THE DEAL Went south!! He decides to put his guys on the car and let Sean drive it talking about i was taking too long Hahahah Where's the car at now??!! He still owe's me $$$ So that is why i give Warning about Z Fever I DO NOT TALK SHIT ... And i will back up every word i say !!!!!

How about NO, we talked on the phone and you sounded like you want to help me convincing me to buy an AEM cpu and spend all this money for a lousy 80hp gain. When i texted you back you were acting like a dick again after i thought you were the bigger man. Plus that's not my problem what you and doug/z-fever have going on, if anything you should apologize to me for acting childish and not being honest!

[Sileighty_85]

Originally Posted by Mysterious Driver

No.

14411-69F00 is plain/ball bearing (S14 Kouki turbo)

[AdamR]

^Really? This was explained like 5 times already.

[KiLLeR2001]

Originally Posted by Mysterious Driver

I found the plate after cleaning the dirt/oil that was covering it.

YF 0958 J
14411 - 69F00
466541 - 7001

You have the S14 Kouki / S15 AT spec-R T28 ball bearing turbo. If you were told you would be getting the S15 MT spec-R turbo, than you could dispute it. But if you were told just an S15 turbo and you agreed on an S15 turbo, then the S15 turbo is what you have.

End of discussion.

[glenngineering]

Bump ...... Thank you !

[glenngineering]

But i never even sold this guy the turbo in the first place Lol this shit is wack!

[Z33dori]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

who cares, honestly. it was said on page one, youre talking about a whopping 10-15hp at most. i made over 300whp on my last SR with an S14 turbo at 16psi. the turbo worked like a damn champ, held 20psi to 6000rpms (tapered back to 16psi past 6000) and was worth every penny of the $300 i bought it for.

ANYTHING is better than the OEM T25 on a redtop/blacktop. GT28 on an S15 isnt anything super special either. its basically a low end T28, theyre not bad turbos, but if youre gonna spend the money, buy a GT30R and just do it right the first time lol

GT28 from a specR is a great OEM upgrade though. is it worth starting a pissing match between S14 and S15 turbos, NO. they both make about the same power and spool up around the same RPM range, outside of that, AGAIN, who cares.

ya my buddies sr made 290 s14/s14t28

i dont see what the big deal is...300 for a t28 is legit as fuck i paid 600 for my s15 t28 and power wise the cars feel exactly the same lol

[Mysterious Driver]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

You have the S14 Kouki / S15 AT spec-R T28 ball bearing turbo. If you were told you would be getting the S15 MT spec-R turbo, than you could dispute it. But if you were told just an S15 turbo and you agreed on an S15 turbo, then the S15 turbo is what you have.

End of discussion.

Went threw the text messages. Sorry for the blurry pic i dont have another camera atm to take a better pic but Here ya go

[bftII40]

dun dun dun, the plot thickens ...

[glenngineering]

Lmfao Yep when we got the swap it had no clutch or flywheel ! 6 Speed was on a Pallet next to the motor ! Use your little brain and think man!!! Why would i ever want to rip anybody off 15 Years Building Nissan's on top of my game ...But i want to rip someone off on a little turbo that was totally worth what you paid unless ..Omar Marked it up?!?! .. Once again WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST HAVE THE GUY THAT BOUGHT AND SHOOK MY HAND ..OMAR CALL ME ???? And why does he not want anything to do with this HMMM... YOU ARE LOOKING REAL BAD MAN! Glenngineering @ SRRBWORLDTUNING.COM

[glenngineering]

THE POINT IS ONCE AGAIN ... If i made a little mistake and you bought the turbo from me no problem with a refund!!! BUT because you didn't all you did was text and message me on FB three weeks prior to Omar buying it along with ten other people asking about it... What do i look like a sucker

[KiLLeR2001]

Maybe out of those 15 years of building Nissans you should have taken a 4 year break to get some education. Also, 15 years of working around Nissans and you just now sign up to Zilvia.net? (One of the most popular Nissan websites on the internet.)

Not only that but you're strictly posting in this thread because I think you know deep down you made a mistake when selling this turbo due to a lack of knowledge and now you're trying to overcompensate by posting multiple times back to back.

Sucks to suck. Haha.

[glenngineering]

Yep Just signed up .. lol And i bet your 3,359 Post's are all shit talk good job man your working hard keep it up

[Mysterious Driver]

Originally Posted by glenngineering

Lmfao Yep when we got the swap it had no clutch or flywheel ! 6 Speed was on a Pallet next to the motor ! Use your little brain and think man!!! Why would i ever want to rip anybody off 15 Years Building Nissan's on top of my game ...But i want to rip someone off on a little turbo that was totally worth what you paid unless ..Omar Marked it up?!?! .. Once again WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST HAVE THE GUY THAT BOUGHT AND SHOOK MY HAND ..OMAR CALL ME ???? And why does he not want anything to do with this HMMM... YOU ARE LOOKING REAL BAD MAN! Glenngineering @ SRRBWORLDTUNING.COM

ok so i gotta tell you on here like i did on tamparacing AGAIN are you really that stupid or just can't read. I had omar buy the fucking turbo FOR ME cause you didn't want to sell it to me in the first place! I had to have someone buy it under you're back so i could originally have it!!!! He was doing ME a favor, you know something friends do....I told you many times i didn't want to get him involve or do i really need to have him confirm this? Do i also need him to confirm how you try to screw him out of when he bought that automatic KA transmission and not include the converter to the agreed price?

[Mysterious Driver]

Originally Posted by glenngineering

THE POINT IS ONCE AGAIN ... If i made a little mistake and you bought the turbo from me no problem with a refund!!! BUT because you didn't all you did was text and message me on FB three weeks prior to Omar buying it along with ten other people asking about it... What do i look like a sucker

Where are you trying to get at? I did i say the turbo was blown or screwed up? That i know of which i'll find out when i put it in the car. Point blank is Mr. 15years of building nissans you should have been more cleared about what you are selling instead of talking out of you're ass like usual.

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

Maybe out of those 15 years of building Nissans you should have taken a 4 year break to get some education. Also, 15 years of working around Nissans and you just now sign up to Zilvia.net? (One of the most popular Nissan websites on the internet.)

Not only that but you're strictly posting in this thread because I think you know deep down you made a mistake when selling this turbo due to a lack of knowledge and now you're trying to overcompensate by posting multiple times back to back.

Sucks to suck. Haha.

Originally Posted by glenngineering

Yep Just signed up .. lol And i bet your 3,359 Post's are all shit talk good job man your working hard keep it up

Speak the truth.

[Def]

Originally Posted by Mysterious Driver

ok so i gotta tell you on here like i did on tamparacing AGAIN are you really that stupid or just can't read. I had omar buy the fucking turbo FOR ME cause you didn't want to sell it to me in the first place! I had to have someone buy it under you're back so i could originally have it!!!! He was doing ME a favor, you know something friends do....I told you many times i didn't want to get him involve or do i really need to have him confirm this? Do i also need him to confirm how you try to screw him out of when he bought that automatic KA transmission and not include the converter to the agreed price?

You sound like a whiny little bitch. I wouldn't sell anything to you either.


Like he said, he didn't sell the turbo to you, what the guy did with the turbo after he sold it to him is non of his concern.


BTW - in case you haven't gotten the point - that little divider in the turbo is worth maybe 0.2 HP. I made 300 rwhp in a GT2560R without the divider at only 15.5 psi.

[SLiDe_WaYz]

That text message says S15 motor with a 6 speed swap..... JS.

[Mysterious Driver]

Originally Posted by Def

You sound like a whiny little bitch. I wouldn't sell anything to you either.


Like he said, he didn't sell the turbo to you, what the guy did with the turbo after he sold it to him is non of his concern.


BTW - in case you haven't gotten the point - that little divider in the turbo is worth maybe 0.2 HP. I made 300 rwhp in a GT2560R without the divider at only 15.5 psi.

What are you his BF who asked you for you're opinion, oh yea that's right no body there for what you have to say is invalid to anyone GTFO now