Another Beheading

[old_s13]

Shoot the guy, at least thats quick. Sawing someone's fucking head off is animal. I don't know if you saw the Nick Berg video...but the man was completely concious throughout the whole thing...screaming in pain. I mean, I'm not trying to start an argument, but doesn't this piss you off even in the smallest way?

who cares about pain as long as it doesnt become TORTURE. When your dead, do you sit there and wonder.. "well.. getting shot is a 3/10 in the pain factor, but man.. cutting my head off is like a 10/10.. please shoot me next time" -- you dont, because youre DEAD.

Yes, suffering is not good.. BUT, it doesnt matter as long as you're dead. I dont think pain matters when you are dying quick. Pain only matters when they stab you in the gut and now you're left there bleeding to death for a total of 1 week or something.

[s14srpilot]

Originally Posted by old_s13

Shoot the guy, at least thats quick. Sawing someone's fucking head off is animal. I don't know if you saw the Nick Berg video...but the man was completely concious throughout the whole thing...screaming in pain. I mean, I'm not trying to start an argument, but doesn't this piss you off even in the smallest way?

who cares about pain as long as it doesnt become TORTURE. When your dead, do you sit there and wonder.. "well.. getting shot is a 3/10 in the pain factor, but man.. cutting my head off is like a 10/10.. please shoot me next time" -- you dont, because youre DEAD.

Yes, suffering is not good.. BUT, it doesnt matter as long as you're dead. I dont think pain matters when you are dying quick. Pain only matters when they stab you in the gut and now you're left there bleeding to death for a total of 1 week or something.

That's soooo easy to say. Feeling it is different. What pain have you suffered?

[Var]

as long as it doesnt become torture? I consider what they did to him a form of torture even though most consider it an "execution" which shouldnt involve pain. The point of an execution is to end a life, not to cause pain or to make a point. But what's funny is we were blamed for Iraqi POW "abuse". hah fags.

[smellslikecurry]

i think all this abuse and beheading is all just a bunch of propaganda, i bet you this type of stuff happens all the time but since now were slowly losing support for this war the government needs something to help sway the country into supporting the war. the government has the media on a leash so i hardly give much merit to anything i hear on tv these days.

[nocomedown]

Originally Posted by smellslikecurry

i think all this abuse and beheading is all just a bunch of propaganda, i bet you this type of stuff happens all the time but since now were slowly losing support for this war the government needs something to help sway the country into supporting the war. the government has the media on a leash so i hardly give much merit to anything i hear on tv these days.

you do realize that all of these pictures and videos are being released on al qaeda websites right? that has nothing to do with our government.

also to olds13: sure..dead is dead, but its humiliating to the family and friends. at least leave the man with some dignity, and im sure theyd like to have the body back for burial. theres a reason why we execute the criminals who recieve the death penalty here with lethal injection.

[old_s13]

also to olds13: sure..dead is dead, but its humiliating to the family and friends. at least leave the man with some dignity, and im sure theyd like to have the body back for burial. theres a reason why we execute the criminals who recieve the death penalty here with lethal injection.

just because WERE attempting to be humane doesnt mean we ARE humane. What makes you think the person, after they are dead, will THANK you for taking the more gentle approach? People need to realize that our bodies are just that, temporary vehicles of transportation for our souls. Sure, you can cut our heads off and chop our dicks off whatever.. but it all makes no difference, its just a body.

My friends and family will remember me for being ME, not for my body and its burrial. One day when I am dead, they will say "mike.. that motherfucker always talked shit.. what a dick.. rest in peace bastard." It doesnt matter if the coffin is filled or empty. I dont know why people get so wrapped up in physical attachment.. like a body or a car, its all temporary.. so just enjoy things/life while you have them... nothing lasts forever.

[nocomedown]

what you're saying is completely true. to the dead person, in the end it honestly makes no difference. like i said, dead is dead. the way i see it though, is that it's more a matter of the family having to be put through that. i can't even imagine what thats like.
the thing that bothers me most about the whole situation is not the method in which they killed him, but the fact that he posed no threat to them from the beginning. he was just a regular business man on his way to work. in fact, it's not even as if he was an "evil infidel" as they believed. apparently he was very interested in the Saudi culture and was a student of Islam himself.

oh well. nothing can change what's already done. it makes me sick to think that this is becoming a regular occurance, though.

[Phlip]

I will agree with Mike one this one; when I am gone, some people will remember me as the brutally and unapologetically honest person, much to the point of being an asshole... There will be people that thought it was entertaining and remember me as a funny guy who liked to laugh and drink a lot of beer. Thing is that I want ALL of those people to show me that while I am here, seeing as how it won't mean a thing when I leave.

[SimpleS14]

I hope they don't bring up any connections that this guy has with Al-Qaeda....

[nocomedown]

Originally Posted by 95KoukiS14

I hope they don't bring up any connections that this guy has with Al-Qaeda....

err...he was the leader of al-qaeda in saudi arabia...what are you talking about?
mike- that's probably a good lesson for a lot of people to learn. sadly, it still doesn't make it easy when you lose someone close to you, but ultimately it would be comforting.

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by nocomedown

err...he was the leader of al-qaeda in saudi arabia...what are you talking about?

Your joking....right?

what I was talking about....is I hope next week we don't get some news that this guy has some connections...thus leading to a conspiracy about his death...thus covering up the very very little we know about what's REALLY going on in Iraq.

[nocomedown]

Originally Posted by 95KoukiS14

Your joking....right?

what I was talking about....is I hope next week we don't get some news that this guy has some connections...thus leading to a conspiracy about his death...thus covering up the very very little we know about what's REALLY going on in Iraq.

oooh i thought you were talking about the people who killed him...not that actual guy himself. nevermind.

and mjjstang: that would lower ourselves to their level. that's what we're fighting against.

[old_s13]

if people saw life the same way i try to envision it, they would try to appreciate each and every day that they are alive. they wouldnt have to plan people into their busy lives by scheduling "quality time" because in reality, quality time is the time you spend with someone doing absolutely nothing (whatever type stuff). People wouldnt be heart-broken when loved ones die because they would know that they are in a better place and that the other person will always be in their heart. its the empty people who feel guilty for not spending sufficient time with their loved ones, who overlook the day-to-day activities you share with people, the good and the bad.. all of that.. makes life worthwhile.

so.. regardless if you die of natural causes, or if you die of something slow and sad or brutal, the point is to appreciate what you have NOW.

[WilloW]

Originally Posted by old_s13

if people saw life the same way i try to envision it, they would try to appreciate each and every day that they are alive. they wouldnt have to plan people into their busy lives by scheduling "quality time" because in reality, quality time is the time you spend with someone doing absolutely nothing (whatever type stuff). People wouldnt be heart-broken when loved ones die because they would know that they are in a better place and that the other person will always be in their heart. its the empty people who feel guilty for not spending sufficient time with their loved ones, who overlook the day-to-day activities you share with people, the good and the bad.. all of that.. makes life worthwhile.

so.. regardless if you die of natural causes, or if you die of something slow and sad or brutal, the point is to appreciate what you have NOW.

That have got to be the nicest post you've ever made since I've been on Zilvia. You are nice after all.

[mjjstang]

all other countries look at us like we are pussies cause we dont do shit when people do shit to us. who the fuck cares. Maybe we should take one of their pussy ass pows and fuck with their bodys cut their nuts off and cut their toung and shove it up their asshole. who cares they do it to our people why not we do it to them. flame me but remember i dont give a fuck what you think.

[mjjstang]

im just sayin that what we are doing now is not working so what are we supposed to do just keep watchin people die.

[smellslikecurry]

if we get the hell out of there i bet you there wont be anymore beheadings, its like having some random guy moving into your backyard pissing and shitting all over the place, im sure you wouldnt like that either. i think the first step for all this to end is to get the fuck out of there.

[iyceman]

Right, so that all the men and women who have died did so for nothing? That sounds kinda like French military planning to me.

[ICKY]

Originally Posted by smellslikecurry

if we get the hell out of there i bet you there wont be anymore beheadings, its like having some random guy moving into your backyard pissing and shitting all over the place, im sure you wouldnt like that either. i think the first step for all this to end is to get the fuck out of there.

:ghey: Are you really an american? No wonder this country is so weak. I suppose you would want the military to leave flowers to the terrorist while they leave, with a note that says "We're sorry."

[mjjstang]

nothing we do will be right, there is nothing we can do it is like the recycle sign, u know the triangle shaped out of three arrows that keeps going around, its endless there is nothing to do, bush fuck us and we cant get unfucked.

[FastBack 240]

Originally Posted by mjjstang

nothing we do will be right, there is nothing we can do it is like the recycle sign, u know the triangle shaped out of three arrows that keeps going around, its endless there is nothing to do, bush fuck us and we cant get unfucked.

Please explain how bush has fucked you. Was it in the kisser? Let me know when you figure it out. He has fucked up in some areas of his foriegn policies but in others he has been successful. Just something to think about before blurting out random post whore comments.

And to your comment MJJ how does the world look at us as cowards? Just because we are trying to sustain a fucked country and there are just a bunch of fucking rebels shooting anti aircraft missiles at our troops means we cant handle it? Lets retaliate and grab a pow and kill them. That will solve everything. You cant always react to a situation like some fucking ignorant bastard. Pick up a newspaper and read into whats happening in the world then get back to me.

[v8blakdak]

Originally Posted by FastBack 240

Please explain how bush has fucked you. Was it in the kisser? Let me know when you figure it out. He has fucked up in some areas of his foriegn policies but in others he has been successful. Just something to think about before blurting out random post whore comments.

And to your comment MJJ how does the world look at us as cowards? Just because we are trying to sustain a fucked country and there are just a bunch of fucking rebels shooting anti aircraft missiles at our troops means we cant handle it? Lets retaliate and grab a pow and kill them. That will solve everything. You cant always react to a situation like some fucking ignorant bastard. Pick up a newspaper and read into whats happening in the world then get back to me.

STANG, if u reply to this you're just a big ghey

[smellslikecurry]

i just think this is all gnna end up like vietnam, the fighting isnt going to stop until we peace out of there.

and i am an american, im allowed to disagree with the war, theres no crime in that

[mjjstang]

sorry i dont like bush, I would rather see a president who passed english class and can speak bupublcilcly. and fuck 200 hp v8 engines. Plus I dont care what either of you guys think. ur opinion is dog shit to me. just as mine is to you. and fastback I do feel bad for you that your dad has brainwashed you into kissing ass to bush. my sympathy to you.

[iyceman]

Originally Posted by mjjstang

sorry i dont like bush, I would rather see a president who passed english class and can speak bupublcilcly. and fuck 200 hp v8 engines. Plus I dont care what either of you guys think. ur opinion is dog shit to me. just as mine is to you. and fastback I do feel bad for you that your dad has brainwashed you into kissing ass to bush. my sympathy to you.

After writing THAT you talk about wanting a president who can speak properly? You wouldn't know a well formed sentence if it jumped up and shoved a broom up your ass.

[FastBack 240]

WOW!!!! Very intelligent answer. Keep reading. BTW thought u said my comments dont mean shit to you. I must be wrong cause I know you got red when you read my post. You loose. Good day sir.

[mjjstang]

(singing to myself to the tune of cha cha cha) I dont fucking care i dont fucking care i dont fucking care. and you lose becuase you spelt lose, LOOSE and dont edit it to look cool. is bush paying you to suck ass.

btw quit posting shit bout how bush is so cool and shit, i know ur gonna respond again and be like bush this bush that mjjstangs a tool fuck moron uninformed pussy bitch cunt fag. ive heard it all.

[FastBack 240]

wasnt gonna step that far into it but o well.....never once did I say I loved bush or was in favor of his decisions. Im just stating the facts.

[Bliss]

Originally Posted by FastBack 240

Im just stating the facts.

saying bush has messed up, but has been mostly successful, is an opinion. you have one, everyone else has one. its what YOU think.

[MakotoS13]

the romans were one of the most civilized empires ever wanna know what they'd do? they'd say "okay, for every one of us we'll kill ten of you". simple as that. no juries, no whining committees, no stupid bleeding heart liberals to sway the vote. LAW was LAW. you kill one their countrymen ten of your's dies. don't like it? don't piss the people in control off.

and i'm back with a new name. the archangelprez account MYSTERIOUSLY became defunct so this is my new name.