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Old 10-01-2009, 12:18 PM   #1
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A while ago i used to live next door with a family with a rott. When i flinch or walk around them (this dog was growling at me) the owners would say he just wants to play and would never hurt anything or anyone; next thing you know, i see a dead cat stripped to pieces a few months later in their backyard. Of course, the owners ignored it and thought it was fine, until it bit their little 3 year old girl.. game over.. never saw that dog again.. the owners could have avoided it, but they were ignorant and thought, it was just a cat - nothing too serious..
The problem is you don't know the circumstances in which the child was bit. I can tell you for a fact I have been biten by a dog and it was mostly my fault. I can tell you that I have infact instigated the animal by toying around with it, even if not intentional. Especially children, they have no concept of when is enough and how far is too far. That goes for all dogs not just pitbulls or so called "violent" dogs. Cats kill birds and mice all the time, they also scratch and bite does that mean we should be worried about them? The fact is all of these animals have been "domesticated" even the violent ones.
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Just an fyi pitbull jaws do not have locking jaws, they just bite hard...like any large dog.

A large mastiff will bite harder than a pit.
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sad story man. im really sorry

keep us posted on the out come of the story
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its just a bad accident, and sounds like the neighbor understands so they also put their dog down.. so both parties lost their dogs.. sucks =(
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I honestly don't blame the breed guys. To be honest with you I blame my home builder more than anything. You have to understand that these dogs ran and played with my min pin on several occasions and that these dogs were trained well.
Last night I inspected where the dogs got through and the home builder used a prefab fencing and only secured the fence with a single nail on the top and a single nail on the bottom.
The wood around the nail cracked a tiny little bit and my yard was available to those dogs. They were able to open the fence like it was a door. And it's in ANY dogs nature to be curious and they found a new passage.
On my dogs end, she just had a litter of puppies and it seemed to me that she may have gotten aggressive to protect her puppies.
It's a sad sad situation but the ultimate reason why she was killed was because she wanted to protect her pups. I really believe that the dogs weren't planning on attacking her but that's not how things ended up.

And for those who are saying pit bulls are mean, they're really not. Each and every individual dog are different. Each can be trained to be more obedient. The only difference is that a pit bull has the ability to kill, along with German Shepards and Cane Corso (illegal in N. America). The only breed of dogs are are NATURALLY more aggressive by nature is the Chow Chow (Japanese war dogs) and Doberman Pinchers due to narrow skulls and in a lot of situations where the brain swells and the dog becomes more and more disoriented with age and sometimes they turn on their owner. In fact I had 37 stitches on my face from a Chow.
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lawsuit man, and have the other dog put down! The odds that it will attack a person is to high!!
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sorrey man that sucks

but for evry one on here that jumps staight to put the dogs down dogs go back and forth on the fence all dogs do it bark at each outher and stuff so it proubly it was not just the pits they proubly pissed each ouher off i dought they would go and hurt another dog for no reason so y put another persons dog down the lost is already lost but i do think they should give you some cash or buy you another dog from the same breeder you bought youre dog from
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i read through all 3 pages,

sorry to hear man,
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Again...until you've owned one or lived with one...STFU. Any breed of dog can snap yes, training your dog the not to have aggressive tendencies will alleviate the chance of them doing so. My dog is 2 yrs old and fixed...let me emphasize on FIXED. She has never had an aggressive tendency, if I see her do anything, she is corrected on the spot. She never has growled at another dog nor bark unless she got startled. She doesnt "kill" her chew toys, she's trained not to stick anything in her mouth other than her toys, you stick your hand in her mouth, she'll automatically open up and push it out with her tongue.
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i know man i almost had the same thing happen to me this weekend my neighbors pitbull attacked my boxer.....& my dog had to be rushed to the vet....
but thankfully my dog fought back thats what saved her

but sorry bout your dog i like bulldogs alot.....
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To the OP = I am sorry for your Loss...my Heart goes with you.. I lost my pitbull to a stray Lab dog.. my puppy wanted to play and that dog did not... I watch it happen in slow motion as I ran outside ... Again, I am sorry for your loss

Sorry having to do this on your thread though...

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honestly outa maybe 100 pitbulls i have come close to in my life all of them were aggresive sure not to the owner or the owners kids and fam. but they are aggresive thats the nature. and to those that say that chihuahuas or shitzu's are more aggresive it might be true BUT LOOK AT THE FUCKING SIZE OF THEM and the strenght of them compared to the muscles and build of a pit

just like piranhas its nature. you cant train a piranha not to be who it is.

you can train a pit to not be who it is to YOU the owner and the fam but same can not be said to train a pit to get along with other breed of dogs or to other dogs or to other humans


whats the point of having a pit besides how ghetto people use them as a gun almost as a way to proove they are tough and so is their dog.


in my old neighbor hood there was 6 pits in my street i had to walk my dog with a golf club in the other hand.

and used it twice! once my dog wasnt so lucky and gots is ass chewed by a pit. but he didnt die.


u want protection get a gun!

you want to intimidate people instead of getting a pit go to the gym and get buffed

you want a mean animal that you can show off to your friends? get a LION fish

you want to have a loyal dog? get one of the many breeds that are loyal and fam friendly



if anything at least make a pit owner registered themselves ala sexual offender registry and make them sign a contract or a paper saying that they will be full responsible for any deaths of dogs and in the event of a kid or any human death they will take the fault as if they killed the person instead of the dog and be charged with murdered and have the dog put to sleep . !!!!!!!
Just like that you can't change the fact that your a F'ing IDIOT.....
Did you know Mr. Dumbass that out of the Top 100 Dog's in the US that have attack Man, Pit Bulls are in the 60 Range.. While your So Called Loyal Dog's .. ie. Golden Retriver, Lab, etc.. placed in the TOP 5..

Every dog is good, and I do agree that you get a bad egg here and there, Just like when you were born...

I have 2 Pits, a Boxer, and a Shih Zu (don't ask how my GF con'd me into the Shih Zu) .. But never ONCE have they fought... Not ONCE...

There are Dickhole people out there that Ruin the name of a Dog in the pursuit of Greed and Stupidity...

Man's Best Friend = a dog will do anythign to please there master. It just pisses me off when people judge ANY type of Dog..

Again OP I am sorry, but I had to say it, again I am sorry for your loss... and I hope the correct measures were taken and that the Owner's of the Pit's will pay for a new dog....
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Sorry about your loss man. I myself have an english bulldog and a boxer, so i could only imagine how you feel if i lost either or. As for the people saying that pitts should be put down, you are all just a bunch of dumb asses, it's like what has been mentioned if trained properly and well kept these dogs won't attack but if trained wrong of course their going to attack. Truthfully the only breed i would never trust is a chow and that is because i have seen to many just turn on their owner for no apparent reason, my cousin being one. Again sorry for your loss and glad that the owner did the right thing but he still owes you for your dog
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Just like that you can't change the fact that your a F'ing IDIOT.....
Did you know Mr. Dumbass that out of the Top 100 Dog's in the US that have attack Man, Pit Bulls are in the 60 Range.. While your So Called Loyal Dog's .. ie. Golden Retriver, Lab, etc.. placed in the TOP 5..
Not arguing with you, but I'm curious if those statistics are per capita or overall. I'd go out on a limb here and guess there are A LOT more retrievers than pits.
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Not arguing with you, but I'm curious if those statistics are per capita or overall. I'd go out on a limb here and guess there are A LOT more retrievers than pits.
Well, what makes the pits unique gives them a bad reputation. They're one of the smartest and trainable dogs. This, mixed with their strength in their jaws, makes them nearly perfect for fighting. The original Bulldog was a sheep dog in sorts. They use to heard bulls and with their strong jaws and large lower jaw they use to jump and disable a full size bull, which is why the bull had a ring around his nose. Cows have weak necks. Pit bulls spawned from the Bulldog, but they were bread to fight. Although it doesn't come naturally to the breed, it's the original purpose for the dogs.
Even though this sounds pretty grim it's only over the past 100 years where the Stafforshire Terrior came to the US so to say it's instinct is not really accurate. And when it comes to fighting dogs the Cane Corso is still the most dangerous in the world. Them, or the Neopolean is 1 and 2. But having a pitbull, even though they would get smashed by other breeds, is a status symbol in the African American community. And don't pretend that that's a surprise to ANYONE. They dress these dogs up in chains and weights for training to fight. These are the people who should be mauled.

But in the end, dogs are dogs. All dogs can be trained, with certain exceptions. I think Cesar Millan has proven to the world that dogs can be trained.

I honestly don't know if explaining the history of the breed helps anyones case, hahaha.
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To the OP = I am sorry for your Loss...my Heart goes with you.. I lost my pitbull to a stray Lab dog.. my puppy wanted to play and that dog did not... I watch it happen in slow motion as I ran outside ... Again, I am sorry for your loss

Sorry having to do this on your thread though...



Just like that you can't change the fact that your a F'ing IDIOT.....
Did you know Mr. Dumbass that out of the Top 100 Dog's in the US that have attack Man, Pit Bulls are in the 60 Range.. While your So Called Loyal Dog's .. ie. Golden Retriver, Lab, etc.. placed in the TOP 5..

Every dog is good, and I do agree that you get a bad egg here and there, Just like when you were born...

I have 2 Pits, a Boxer, and a Shih Zu (don't ask how my GF con'd me into the Shih Zu) .. But never ONCE have they fought... Not ONCE...

There are Dickhole people out there that Ruin the name of a Dog in the pursuit of Greed and Stupidity...

Man's Best Friend = a dog will do anythign to please there master. It just pisses me off when people judge ANY type of Dog..

Again OP I am sorry, but I had to say it, again I am sorry for your loss... and I hope the correct measures were taken and that the Owner's of the Pit's will pay for a new dog....

okay doctor scientist.

still i think anyone that wants to own a pit should sign a /contract/paper w.e that says in case of the dog killing anyone the owner should be held responsible and get charged with charges
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Well, what makes the pits unique gives them a bad reputation. They're one of the smartest and trainable dogs. This, mixed with their strength in their jaws, makes them nearly perfect for fighting. The original Bulldog was a sheep dog in sorts. They use to heard bulls and with their strong jaws and large lower jaw they use to jump and disable a full size bull, which is why the bull had a ring around his nose. Cows have weak necks. Pit bulls spawned from the Bulldog, but they were bread to fight. Although it doesn't come naturally to the breed, it's the original purpose for the dogs.
Even though this sounds pretty grim it's only over the past 100 years where the Stafforshire Terrior came to the US so to say it's instinct is not really accurate. And when it comes to fighting dogs the Cane Corso is still the most dangerous in the world. Them, or the Neopolean is 1 and 2. But having a pitbull, even though they would get smashed by other breeds, is a status symbol in the African American community. And don't pretend that that's a surprise to ANYONE. They dress these dogs up in chains and weights for training to fight. These are the people who should be mauled.

But in the end, dogs are dogs. All dogs can be trained, with certain exceptions. I think Cesar Millan has proven to the world that dogs can be trained.

I honestly don't know if explaining the history of the breed helps anyones case, hahaha.
You explained very well. That's actually pretty correct. You also right about the Owners that create these Monsters should be left alone with them when they turn.. You reap what you sow... But its sad to see the dog's turned into monsters.. But it can happen, just like a Rich man spoils his son, they too can become a form of a monster.. it's all about the values you teach your animal

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Not arguing with you, but I'm curious if those statistics are per capita or overall. I'd go out on a limb here and guess there are A LOT more retrievers than pits.
Per Capita, I am not sure.. But lets just take a section, The High Desert for exapmle (because I live in the High Desert.. lol) I would wage that there are almost 2x more pits then there are any other Large breed Dog here. I know just in the block i am on, I can honestly say almost every house has a pit, except one. (there are 15 house's on my block) .. Not Completly over the US, I would Like to see the Numbers... But that's also only ' Registered' Dogs.. I am going to go out on a limb, but i am sure that people that do this to any dog, does not register them.. because there is a paper trail back to the owner..

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okay doctor scientist.

still i think anyone that wants to own a pit should sign a /contract/paper w.e that says in case of the dog killing anyone the owner should be held responsible and get charged with charges
THat should be with Any dog... Any dog is capable of Mauling, Killing, or causing serious damage to another dog or Person .. Shoot I have seen little dogs tear at each other before.. they are just on a Viciousness on a level of there own.... But a true Owner of Any Breed is responsible for the Animals actions..

Also both my pits love Ever one.. they are terrible guard dogs.. LMAO .. they will lick the shit out of you.. But never bite.. they dont even bite when i play with them...
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Wow im sorry for your loss, I am a big animal lover and really love all animals. I know how people become so attached to them. Growing up we owned 2 pittbulls , my dad's buddy was a marine who bred the dogs off base and in TX. Both dogs were UKC dogs .
I was around 11 or 12 I was at a baseball field throwing a ball for my male and female pitt and they ended up fighting over the ball. I figured it was just a small little fight and it would just stop like it has done before. Still to this day I do not know what happened? They were raised both in a loving family from 9 weeks old . They both use to sleep with me and they were just all around great dogs. They ended up fighting for 3 hours , at the time I Was just too small to break them up. They both had walking harness on and I was between them trying to pull them apart , I just was not able to do it. I remember my mom having to leave because she was crying , I just sat 20 feet away in the grass crying watching them fight. The MP's ended up coming and there was blood all over the outfield the female dog was dead, had broken front legs, throat was covered in slashes. After the fight the male was standing over her and licking her wounds, he was never aggressive but this time he was very pissed at something. The mp could not even come in the baseball diamond to try and get the female dog. The male would only let me in and all he did was keep licking me like nothing ever happened. Still to this day I think about them and what I could of done different. I had a real hard time with the loss of them, I really cared for these dogs a lot. I hope you are able to move on and remember animals are animals and sometimes we just do not understand why they do the things they do. I hope in time you can move on and get another puppy. You do need to get the law involved , because you missed work to come home for someones mistakes. Good luck to you.
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okay doctor scientist.

still i think anyone that wants to own a pit should sign a /contract/paper w.e that says in case of the dog killing anyone the owner should be held responsible and get charged with charges

That's called discrimination . That would be like a racist saying for all non white people to get finger printed at birth, that way the cops have a data base for all the stolen cars or stolen stuff when they get older. Its a fucking Stereotype
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That's called discrimination . That would be like a racist saying for all non white people to get finger printed at birth, that way the cops have a data base for all the stolen cars or stolen stuff when they get older. Its a fucking Stereotype
just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad idea.. about the dogs.. not race..... although.............lol.

Some sort of class for owners of, not necessarily 'more aggresive' dogs but just larger/stronger breeds in general, wouldn't be a bad idea. Example: I have a 6 1/2 month old lab that weighs 90lbs. and he could easily kill any dog <50lbs.. but he isn't aggresive at all. That doesn't mean I don't take precautions to prevent him from getting out or being well socialized anyway.............. On the other hand my sister has a 13lb. jack-russel/corgie mix.. and that thing is absolutely vicious.. but even if she got loose she probably couldn't kill a baby if she tried lol.
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just because it's a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad idea.. about the dogs.. not race..... although.............lol.

Some sort of class for owners of, not necessarily 'more aggresive' dogs but just larger/stronger breeds in general, wouldn't be a bad idea. Example: I have a 6 1/2 month old lab that weighs 90lbs. and he could easily kill any dog <50lbs.. but he isn't aggresive at all. That doesn't mean I don't take precautions to prevent him from getting out or being well socialized anyway.............. On the other hand my sister has a 13lb. jack-russel/corgie mix.. and that thing is absolutely vicious.. but even if she got loose she probably couldn't kill a baby if she tried lol.
Thats very true anyone in the united states can sterotype, because everyone does it at times. But discrimination is not the same and can get you into trouble, Just because someone owns a "bullydog" breed does not mean they are all "thugs" or uneducated people. If I was to say anything like that at work I would be in human resource's getting lawsuit from co workers.
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That's called discrimination . That would be like a racist saying for all non white people to get finger printed at birth, that way the cops have a data base for all the stolen cars or stolen stuff when they get older. Its a fucking Stereotype
aw come on dont bring in that here. thats bullshit


we dont need people like you shit i wont be surprised if now that i know people like you exist there will be people suing petsmart for only selling black fish instead of other colors for discrimination.

i supposed im racist and discriminating for only having orange clownfish instead of light red Tomato clownfish or the skunk clownfish that had a skunk like line instead of the 3 vertical lines on the the orange clownfish?


shit man call the police report me for discriminating fish or dogs!

i dont bealive in discrimination but i guess i always discriminate huh? damn how rude of me
or are we gonna sue a puppie store for only selling chows instead of pugs "Your store is discriminating against pugs because you dont sell ANY! HOW RACIST. IM SUING YOU!"


thats just fucking stupid! no offense but i have never herd such idiotic thing in my life time!
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okay doctor scientist.

still i think anyone that wants to own a pit should sign a /contract/paper w.e that says in case of the dog killing anyone the owner should be held responsible and get charged with charges
hey smart guy there is sumthing like that its called a dog license
i have one it states i own the dog she has all her shots and they are up to date anything she does i am liable for
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the only breed i truely belive is a pice of shit is chow's
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OP, can't you get some tax refund or something from the gov since the old english bulldog is considered an endangered species or some shit?
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I'm so sorry to hear about your loss.

There is no way to replace her, I just hope that in some way with time your heart will heal.
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sucks man. i can't imagine losing my little baby(hah he's a chihuahua so what =P ) . i've had him since i was eleven. he's starting to get up there in the age department, he's starting to have hip problems

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man this is bullshit, i have nothing against owning dogs that will rip your headoff but i do have a problem with people not taking measures to keep their dogs in their yard.

i had a neighbor who had two german shepherds that always got out of the yard because the gate was always open...idk what is so hard with keeping a gate closed but one of the dogs eventually got hit by a car in the middle of the night and she actually didn't do a damn thing about it...the gate was still open and the dog continued to run out and harass the pedestrians. PEOPLE trip me out...

really sorry about your dog, I can only imagine how you feel about all of this.
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To the OP, I'm so sorry about your loss man. Losing an animal is like losing a family member, nothing can be done to replace them.

To the rest of you fucking morons.

Keep your fucking mouths shut about fucking dogs. This isn't the "I have the biggest dick cuz I know everything about pit bulls" thread. It's a threat about a guy losing mans best friend.

Now shut the fuck up and be respectful.
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hey man kill those pitbull dogs man not cool
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