Vertex S14 Bumper Copy Is Out!!

[RBS14]

Originally posted by KiDyNomiTe
People are gonna look at you funny when they ask what kit you own

People will look at you even funnier when you tell them you have a Hippo Sleek kit...

[boosteds14]

hahah, man i wanted to say that but didnt want to put it that blunt. thats awesome.

[boro240]

[initial s14]

guys ! i dont think GTP cares about **** you say coz they know ,,,, at evey 1 240sx enthusiast who hates them is equal to 50 civics/ integs/ eclipse owners out there will ...... will keep their business a success...oh well........ vertex will never be JDM again...

[NiteKids]

Vertex is definetly a nice company but how come no body triped this hard when bomex, veilside, etc. were being copied? What makes Vertex so special to you guys? It is simply another Japanese brand which is now available state side. You knew it was gonna happen. GP Sports was is being copied too now. I don't hear anyone making as big as a deal of it as they did w/ vertex?

[drift into a curb]

Probably cuz at that time, you were one of the people sporting the copies NiteKids. LOL well people have put up a fight about the copies of the Bomex, Veilside, C-Westin, and the others. But some Americans don't seem to care to do things at an expense of quality if the price is right. If you've been in the car scene for long enough, you'd notice people would note their car as Authentic Veilside or Genuine [insert brand name here]. Even on my friends GS400, he has a Win Racing bumper, but the Black Widow company takes it and bastardized the kit, so all he can do is say he has the original. I seriously think 90% of the Americans aren't up to date as you guys on who makes what kit or even cares where their parts come from. All they want to know is what is trendy and can they get it for a low price.

[RBS14]

I didn't trip at all when the other companies were being copied because i didn't know about it. Fu*c those damn companies too. Every day i wake up and slap myself upside the head for buying Tenzo rims! (a great example of a knockoff company) I can't believe i actually paid money for the pieces of sh!t!! Now its all i can do to keep myself from throwing them off a cliff. Sorry, i digress...

Anyone wanna buy an awesome set of rims?? u know you want that +42mm offset!

[ruf]

Originally posted by zero.counter
I guess I should have elaborated on my comments some to better understand my angle. Look, unfortunately knock-offs, so to speak, are abundant in anything and everything we do. My point is that just because it is a copy, does not mean that those "Real" racer/poser/show guys, the ones who have money to spend on things like that instead of more pressing things like mortgages, college tuition and expenses, maintenance of cars and such.

I don't (fortunately) live with my parents anymore (since I was 17) and have somewhat grown up and have other responsibilities to take care of. I have used some cheaper prods and they work great (the dollar store was my inception into the frugal delights of life). Because some of you guys believe in the Japanese Drifter heros and their heritage for having quality stuff (???) is good for you. But alot of guys/girls coming to this board lack the funds that some of you guys have and have other responsibilities besides expensive hobbies and pipe dreams. To automatically shoot them off to you all's contact seems like a bad business practice. Let them experience for themselves or at least tell them that there are other possibilities besides GTP/VIS or let them feel that there is hope for alternatives. It sounds almost monopolizing to hear the comments concerning Quality vs. Economy.
We have all learned at one point in time that there can be no substitute for certain items, hence the coke analogy to sam's club soda.

BTW, Ruff (little character w/ banana) where is the site that you were going to put up. I asked for you to post an IP address since your domain is not up yet but never got a response.

Nitekids, that friends kit thing was hilarious. Thanks for sub-conciously trying to offset the tension being created here with your antics.

Douson or san I mean, you did not respond to the analogy of the Linux/Microsoft situation gave you. hey are similar in origin of argument.

Boro guy, *sigh* again we meet on the battlefields of the zilvia forum. The stealing, morals, and ethics theme you were attempting to convey was useless as an argument at best. The fact is american law dictates sound judgements in cases. Whether you think it is morally right or wrong is not the way the judicial system works (Checks and balances). Thsi particular case in point, there are most likely no patents around so they have no case. Other wise that computer that you are typing on (no doubt a close IBM-Compatible) would be up for litigation since IBM was the original proprieter of the "IBM PC" which started the whole Home PC era on a roll. SO I guess the computer you are using is considered a stolen idea, so your morals and ethics should have kicked in by now.

Anyways, I am at the library (summer session II finals) and will continue this chat when I go into work later tonight.

Have a nice day!

It's got nothing to do with price. It's got nothing to do with "drift heroes". I buy and sell quality products regardless of price or trendiness. If a US company could come out with a quality aerokit that fit well, that would be great. I just don't see why someone can't. The other thing is why can't someone come up with a DIFFERENT design that looks good? Why do you have to copy? It's not like engineering where there are very limited "correct" answers. It's aesthetics, and it's completely wide open given that you have the artistic talent. As for my website. I'll give the same lazy response I always do. It's going up this week etc etc. Along with shipping product and coordinating incoming shipments, I try to work a regular job and enjoy my "spare time". Just did a track day yesterday at TWS.

[chrisngo]

Alright all...

DAMN! this thread is looooooooooooong.

Well I just spoke with Import Fan. I need to speak with Ted. I do not want customers that want the real VERTEX kit to be led into buying a knock off VertX.

My little rant and rave is next.

Basically, all the guys that buy the real stuff are in their mid 20's or older.

Take Dousan And Ruf. They are about my age (25) and they have been "in the scene" for, i'm guessing, well over 8 years. What does all this mean? It means they have been there and done that, just as I have. They have matured with the industry and they can spot companies/manufacturers that are in it to continue the growth of the industry. They know who is out to make a quick buck and who do not care about the people they sell to. This is why I promote quality. I mean, yeah I do promote OBX short shifters, but hey, I use it on my own car and I have not had an issue with it. I like my customers to be happy. I want to become friends with my customers. They are not just customers in my eyes.

When this industry and drift scene begins to mature, you will see the knock off companies fading into the back drop. You already see this with the Honda crowd. Everyone want's JDM for their civics and preludes. That will also happen with the 240 market. People will be more willing to pay for a quality part.

I will give everyone an example of a mture industry.
HARLEY DAVIDSON

The demographic of most harley owners are older and more mature. Their incomes have a broad range though. But regardless of the income, the majority are willing to pay top dollar for genuine parts and accessories offered by Harley Davidson.

The same will be said about the drift scene and import car scene. BMW owners would be another example.

When I was 16 (9 years ago) with my Slammed toyota truck, I had $1200 (rims only) black 5Zigens Div-3's. You see, I was willing to put out $ for JDM parts. Why? Because I wanted to be unique and I wanted a quality part. I really don't think anyone would pay that for 16" wheels today....hehe.

Anyways...with education and a large stock pile, VERTEX will stick around in the U.S. for a long time.

It's good to see all you guys sticking to high quality parts.

BTW...just because they stand on a bumper doesnt mean it's not going to break on impact. It's actaully even more prone to crack since it's so thick.

thanks all...I will keep you all updated!
Chris

[Dousan_PG]

Thanks for hopping on and posting what's going on, chris. please keep us updated

see you at the meet end of this money!

peace,
aaron