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sideviewcivic · 10-01-2004, 03:57 PM

-as mav1178 stated places to have a converntion at. I was looking at Cali. Speedway. costs 15K to rent the track and facilities. Plenty of infield and outside track space to hold many events. problem is the track is busy 360 days. Personally I would travel across the nation for a convention. To me setting a place and date for next year rite now would benefit best allowng me almost a full year to set aside cash and plan my schedule to be able to go to where the convention would take place.

-D.C. and chi-town im personally fond of attending that would a great road trip very scenic.

-as for my personal views I would like to see the convention as a race track since i like to drive. Tracks I would love to see the convention happen at::: Road America, Mid-Ohio, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Laguna Seca, Portland. I like road courses so have a convention near or at a track, and Im there. the important fact I feel is to give enough time to allow people to set money aside. Having a mailing list that does a bi-monthly e-mail to remind people interested to remember to save money would be great for me keeping on budget.

projectRDM · 10-01-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

westboroughpimps point is that look at the previous attendence and interested people that where gonna attend the 03 and 04 convention, where they a success? 04 didnt even happen. I just dont really see the 240 community is big enough to have it outside of cali yet.

But the first one was in Kansas City, which is nothing near the size of any other venue since, and it was started strictly as a Midwest only meet. It grew quickly because the interest was there. With the same people planning (Louis has disappeared again), it could be done there again even bigger, or anywhere for that matter.

Hell, I had a meet here in Atlanta a few years ago, it was very short notice, a few out of town guys were coming in and I put up a few posts on forums three days before, we had over 60 cars show up that night. With the right planning, support, and avoiding higher costs (my mistake in 03), it can be held anywhere and have a good turnout.

*sykikchimp* · 10-02-2004, 09:24 AM

indeed. Texas or Chi-town EVER YEAR is what I think wee should do. I think Chi town would be better because then we could get our Canadian brothers involved more easily if they wanted.

If someone in that are would step up to lead, and ask for volunteers to help, I think we could make it happen.

Listen guys, we know Cali has a lot of support, but trying to put the convention there every year only puts an artificail cap on the growth of the community, and alienates a lot of people. Putting the ocnvention in a centralized location forces everyone to bear the same burden, and that sharing of responsibility is what brings people together.

-Charles

gogeeta13 · 10-02-2004, 11:53 AM

If you guys want to get a lot of track time...do it at mid ohio or beaveRun. at beaver, the track time is rediculously cheap, entire rentals including staffing and everything are like half the cost of mid ohio.

kazuo · 10-02-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by R240NA

Hell, I had a meet here in Atlanta a few years ago, it was very short notice, a few out of town guys were coming in and I put up a few posts on forums three days before, we had over 60 cars show up that night. With the right planning, support, and avoiding higher costs (my mistake in 03), it can be held anywhere and have a good turnout.

We average over 60 cars out here. On thursday nights. :P I'm not bragging, just trying to illstrate the point.

Why bother organizing it somewhere where people will be reluctant to go, that doesnt have the necessary base # of enthusiasts to make it happen? There weren't as many people into it in 2002 as there is now,I don't even want to think of how many cars will show up if we have another one in Cali :P

Anyway, seems like most people want it out here, so why not...

It may not be "fair", it may "alienate the community", but it will work.

Also, as far as distance, let's make it TRULY fair and have it in Kansas... :P

kandyflip445 · 10-02-2004, 03:02 PM

If one more person nominates Kansas I swear I'll beat you with a crankshaft!!! Seriously...

I'm with Charles, Texas or Chicago every year. If we make it something in the middle and something that is near the same place/time every year then I think it would help the event grow every year. I nominate Alex for the job. You are already showing interest in getting this done and I think you hate the fact that 04' flopped. If you need help I would be with Charles and try to help. I really don't know what it involves so if, later, we could make a thread about it with the info needed that would help.

mav1178 · 10-05-2004, 11:59 AM

How about this?

If you want a meet in CA, do it yourself, just don't call it a national convention.

I will NOT have a national convention in SoCal for '05. My point is even if Vegas was a flop, people in CA are partially to blame for not attending the event. And people in the Southwest have already had their chance to have an event...

Still no one stepping up and still no location. This is going nowhere fast.

-alex

wootwoot · 10-05-2004, 12:25 PM

chicago or texas. both are around 1300 miles away from me and both seem like good locations. which one has more fun roads to drive on?? thats the only thing i see swaying my oppinon right now

mike13 · 10-05-2004, 12:32 PM

Maybe I will organize the event. Honestly how many of you would show up if the 2005 240sx Convention was in Pittsburgh, PA with a cookout, car show, and track time at Beaverun motorsports complex? (www.beaverun.com)

I would like to incorporate a drive where we bring a train of cars downtown for a photo shoot.
Extra curriclular activities (bars, clubs, strippers etc) I can plan.
I have the skills to promote the event through building a web site and creating advertising materials.

Pittsburgh is an inexpensive city that is a central hub to the Northeast and Midwest. Less than a days drive from so many major cities I havent bothered to count. (New York, Boston, Chicago, St. Louis, Washington DC, Baltimore, just to name a FEW)

I have confidence that I could pull this off, and I would love to do it. Timeframe would be August/ September next year when the weather here is warm and dry.

I'm stepping up, and I have a location. Let me know your thoughts.

StupidGreen87 · 10-05-2004, 01:21 PM

i vote for pittsburgh!

gogeeta13 · 10-05-2004, 01:27 PM

I say pittsburg/beaverun too. Beaver run would supply us with cheap track time and even though navigating thru pittsburg sucks(I always get lost) there is more than enough to do in that city.

Var · 10-05-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

How about this?

If you want a meet in CA, do it yourself, just don't call it a national convention.

I will NOT have a national convention in SoCal for '05.

-alex

IMO this attitude towards socal is unfair. It probably has the most votes. Makes the most sense, but for reasons that seem petty and irrelevant compared to the big picture, which is to have a succesful convention, you refuse to have it there.

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Still no one stepping up and still no location. This is going nowhere fast.

You are asking for help, then not taking advice. The person who takes this reponsibility probably doesnt want the risk of a failed event. You are being unreasonable about it. So please give a suggestion. What city do you think it should be in?

KiDyNomiTe · 10-05-2004, 02:52 PM

For a Chicago thing, would it be strict 240 only type thing, because I am part of ClubFR (working with Go Drift to bring drift events to midwest) and we are allowed to use Rt. 66 for a drift event. But with a Drift comp I would hate to leave out non-240s especially considering the prez of ClubFR has a miata.

I will look into it more and see what other locals have to say about helping out, I'd rather not take the head role but would be willing to do a big chunk of organizing.

If someone could e-mail me ([email protected], or aim = UBettaRecognize5) with a bit of information on what I will be needing to do, I can start to gather information, and get back to everyone. This doesn't mean I am guaranteeing anything so people from other states don't stop trying to set things up.

It'd be a good idea to have everything official in the next month so I'll try hard to gather some people and see what we can do in Chicago.

mike13 · 10-05-2004, 03:13 PM

I personally have no problem with other cars showing up, in fact if the event is in Pittsburgh I will encourage other Nissan enthusiasts to particpate in the gatherings.

I will also support an event in Chicago, if it is decided that it should be held there.

wootwoot · 10-05-2004, 03:18 PM

why not just have a california 240 meet..... then you can have what you want and we can have what we want. a national convention in a central location

KiDyNomiTe · 10-05-2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot

why not just have a california 240 meet..... then you can have what you want and we can have what we want. a national convention in a central location

its been said a few times already. It'd make more sense to have it the other way around..

mike13 · 10-05-2004, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

its been said a few times already. It'd make more sense to have it the other way around..

California people expect us from the East Coast to saddle up and make a 2000 mile trip, but how many of them would do the same in the opposite direction?

The only solution to this is to stop worrying about dividing the coasts and to throw this event where there will be dedicated people to support it. Whether or not people show up is a direct result of how well planned and promoted the event is.

Its rediculous to expect CA people to drive to our coast, and rediculous for CA people to expect east coast people to drive out there. We as a group need to lessen our expectations for a utopian 240sx scene. You will never throw a successful "national" event in a city that is 1000 miles away from over 50% of the population of our country. Kids out east are spread out, but we're here. Just because there is a higher concentration of enthusiasts in California doesnt mean that there are more, or that your enthusiasm is somehow better than ours.

In fact I would go so far as to say there are more posers and wannabe drifter kids in Cali than anywhere else in the world.

My offer stands. If the event isnt held in Chicago, then I will push for a Northeast/ Midwest/ East Coast Meet here in Pittsburgh. And guess what? It's going to be one hell of a time.

SauN · 10-05-2004, 04:16 PM

Chicago is very central place that many mid and east coasters have ability to reach. I just moved here from san diego to go to college here in Chicago (IIT). I think many Californians are too lazy to actually see that there ARE actually things outside of their own state (I was one of them =P). Aside from giving me an excuse to bring my car up here for college, there are plenty of things to do in/around the city. And it's especially pretty around August when it starts to cool down. i haven't personally attended any car events, but they are always holding things down at Joliet from what i hear.

Other than chicago, I think Texas is also a good central location. The ideal time to hold it would be during the summer when many students are out of college and others have the ability to take time off of work. But its either hot or waay fuggin hot in summers in texas.

10-02-2004, 11:53 AM	#64
gogeeta13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you guys want to get a lot of track time...do it at mid ohio or beaveRun. at beaver, the track time is rediculously cheap, entire rentals including staffing and everything are like half the cost of mid ohio. __________________ 1996 Maxima 5 speed 1993 Altima SE ------------------------- 1993 240sx Base - SOLD [Blacktop and such] 1992 240sx Base - SOLD [Road Race/Auto X Beast] 1993 240sx Hicas - SOLD 2001 Xterra SE V6 4x4 5 speed - SOLD

10-02-2004, 03:02 PM	#66
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If one more person nominates Kansas I swear I'll beat you with a crankshaft!!! Seriously... I'm with Charles, Texas or Chicago every year. If we make it something in the middle and something that is near the same place/time every year then I think it would help the event grow every year. I nominate Alex for the job. You are already showing interest in getting this done and I think you hate the fact that 04' flopped. If you need help I would be with Charles and try to help. I really don't know what it involves so if, later, we could make a thread about it with the info needed that would help. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

10-05-2004, 01:27 PM	#71
gogeeta13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 202 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I say pittsburg/beaverun too. Beaver run would supply us with cheap track time and even though navigating thru pittsburg sucks(I always get lost) there is more than enough to do in that city. __________________ 1996 Maxima 5 speed 1993 Altima SE ------------------------- 1993 240sx Base - SOLD [Blacktop and such] 1992 240sx Base - SOLD [Road Race/Auto X Beast] 1993 240sx Hicas - SOLD 2001 Xterra SE V6 4x4 5 speed - SOLD

10-05-2004, 02:52 PM	#73
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 38 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For a Chicago thing, would it be strict 240 only type thing, because I am part of ClubFR (working with Go Drift to bring drift events to midwest) and we are allowed to use Rt. 66 for a drift event. But with a Drift comp I would hate to leave out non-240s especially considering the prez of ClubFR has a miata. I will look into it more and see what other locals have to say about helping out, I'd rather not take the head role but would be willing to do a big chunk of organizing. If someone could e-mail me ([email protected], or aim = UBettaRecognize5) with a bit of information on what I will be needing to do, I can start to gather information, and get back to everyone. This doesn't mean I am guaranteeing anything so people from other states don't stop trying to set things up. It'd be a good idea to have everything official in the next month so I'll try hard to gather some people and see what we can do in Chicago. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

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10-01-2004, 03:57 PM	#61
sideviewcivic BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere north of mexico Age: 40 Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	-as mav1178 stated places to have a converntion at. I was looking at Cali. Speedway. costs 15K to rent the track and facilities. Plenty of infield and outside track space to hold many events. problem is the track is busy 360 days. Personally I would travel across the nation for a convention. To me setting a place and date for next year rite now would benefit best allowng me almost a full year to set aside cash and plan my schedule to be able to go to where the convention would take place. -D.C. and chi-town im personally fond of attending that would a great road trip very scenic. -as for my personal views I would like to see the convention as a race track since i like to drive. Tracks I would love to see the convention happen at::: Road America, Mid-Ohio, Road Atlanta, Sebring, Laguna Seca, Portland. I like road courses so have a convention near or at a track, and Im there. the important fact I feel is to give enough time to allow people to set money aside. Having a mailing list that does a bi-monthly e-mail to remind people interested to remember to save money would be great for me keeping on budget.

10-02-2004, 09:24 AM	#63
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	indeed. Texas or Chi-town EVER YEAR is what I think wee should do. I think Chi town would be better because then we could get our Canadian brothers involved more easily if they wanted. If someone in that are would step up to lead, and ask for volunteers to help, I think we could make it happen. Listen guys, we know Cali has a lot of support, but trying to put the convention there every year only puts an artificail cap on the growth of the community, and alienates a lot of people. Putting the ocnvention in a centralized location forces everyone to bear the same burden, and that sharing of responsibility is what brings people together. -Charles

10-05-2004, 11:59 AM	#67
mav1178 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA 91745 Posts: 1,530 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	How about this? If you want a meet in CA, do it yourself, just don't call it a national convention. I will NOT have a national convention in SoCal for '05. My point is even if Vegas was a flop, people in CA are partially to blame for not attending the event. And people in the Southwest have already had their chance to have an event... Still no one stepping up and still no location. This is going nowhere fast. -alex

10-05-2004, 12:25 PM	#68
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	chicago or texas. both are around 1300 miles away from me and both seem like good locations. which one has more fun roads to drive on?? thats the only thing i see swaying my oppinon right now

10-05-2004, 12:32 PM	#69
mike13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 42 Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Maybe I will organize the event. Honestly how many of you would show up if the 2005 240sx Convention was in Pittsburgh, PA with a cookout, car show, and track time at Beaverun motorsports complex? (www.beaverun.com) I would like to incorporate a drive where we bring a train of cars downtown for a photo shoot. Extra curriclular activities (bars, clubs, strippers etc) I can plan. I have the skills to promote the event through building a web site and creating advertising materials. Pittsburgh is an inexpensive city that is a central hub to the Northeast and Midwest. Less than a days drive from so many major cities I havent bothered to count. (New York, Boston, Chicago, St. Louis, Washington DC, Baltimore, just to name a FEW) I have confidence that I could pull this off, and I would love to do it. Timeframe would be August/ September next year when the weather here is warm and dry. I'm stepping up, and I have a location. Let me know your thoughts.

10-05-2004, 01:21 PM	#70
StupidGreen87 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i vote for pittsburgh!

10-05-2004, 03:13 PM	#74
mike13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 42 Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I personally have no problem with other cars showing up, in fact if the event is in Pittsburgh I will encourage other Nissan enthusiasts to particpate in the gatherings. I will also support an event in Chicago, if it is decided that it should be held there.

10-05-2004, 03:18 PM	#75
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why not just have a california 240 meet..... then you can have what you want and we can have what we want. a national convention in a central location

10-05-2004, 04:16 PM	#78
SauN Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: socal / chicago Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Chicago is very central place that many mid and east coasters have ability to reach. I just moved here from san diego to go to college here in Chicago (IIT). I think many Californians are too lazy to actually see that there ARE actually things outside of their own state (I was one of them =P). Aside from giving me an excuse to bring my car up here for college, there are plenty of things to do in/around the city. And it's especially pretty around August when it starts to cool down. i haven't personally attended any car events, but they are always holding things down at Joliet from what i hear. Other than chicago, I think Texas is also a good central location. The ideal time to hold it would be during the summer when many students are out of college and others have the ability to take time off of work. But its either hot or waay fuggin hot in summers in texas.