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[Var]

302 sounds like a good swap but it will end up costing the same as an LS1 when you try to get the same power out of it. The big plus for a 302 is that replacements parts are cheap and plentiful and the transmission fits better than the t-56. Also it's OBDI so less hassle with smog if you have it...but on the other hand the LS1 might be easier to legalize for CA because it's on the Low Emission Vehicle list..so it's considered to be a super clean burning engine. but 302's always sound better.

i still want an LS1

[NickBW]

mmm LS1 in a 240sx fastback with no spoiler. Like a lighter corvette with two more seats.

Lots of power, broad powerband, huge aftermarket here in the USA, no taking it up the butt from importing costs for every little thing that you may need for an engine that wasnt sold in the USA. Great sound(really suprise people with that throaty rumble from a humble little nissan.. )
I remember seeing a guy who had a destroked Lt1 that made something like 600~hp at around 7000+rpm's naturaly aspired. A setup somewhat simalar to that with an Ls1 sure would be nice..

[AlligatorBling]

i realize this thread is about putting a 302 in a 240; however, i must throw in my two cents.... have you considered finding a cheap 4 Cyl mustang notch back and dropping a 5.0 in it? gut out the body for weight issues, you get MEGA torque, and you still pay for 4cly insurance, best of all... the motor drops right in, thus saving you a lot of cash. rear end swaps should be fairly simple as well, you could put in 3.55 or 3.73’s ... or if you want the easiest route, but a 5.0 and gut it. trick out the motor, and enjoy.

edit: some reading you might like on weight reduction of the stang
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...ghlight=weight

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by AlligatorBling

i realize this thread is about putting a 302 in a 240; however, i must throw in my two cents.... have you considered finding a cheap 4 Cyl mustang notch back and dropping a 5.0 in it? gut out the body for weight issues, you get MEGA torque, and you still pay for 4cly insurance, best of all... the motor drops right in, thus saving you a lot of cash. rear end swaps should be fairly simple as well, you could put in 3.55 or 3.73’s ... or if you want the easiest route, but a 5.0 and gut it. trick out the motor, and enjoy.

edit: some reading you might like on weight reduction of the stang
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...ghlight=weight

My GF had a 4cyl stang. You know how hard it is to swap a 5.0 in it? It's cheaper to buy a GT. Insurance rates on even a 4cyl mustang are twice that of a 240. The more you strip out the more anoying the stang gets.

[Var]

Originally Posted by AlligatorBling

i realize this thread is about putting a 302 in a 240; however, i must throw in my two cents.... have you considered finding a cheap 4 Cyl mustang notch back and dropping a 5.0 in it? gut out the body for weight issues, you get MEGA torque, and you still pay for 4cly insurance, best of all... the motor drops right in, thus saving you a lot of cash. rear end swaps should be fairly simple as well, you could put in 3.55 or 3.73’s ... or if you want the easiest route, but a 5.0 and gut it. trick out the motor, and enjoy.

edit: some reading you might like on weight reduction of the stang
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthr...ghlight=weight

I used to have a 5.0. those cars feel like trucks. They are shitty to drive even though they have potential to perform. 240's look better, the chassis is better, the interior is better, but the engine is lacking. plus mustangs have solid rear axle etc. This way you get the best of both worlds

[AlligatorBling]

Originally Posted by westboroughpimp

plus mustangs have solid rear axle etc. This way you get the best of both worlds

this is true.... you know what would be really cool.... this is way the fuck out there.... but can you imagen a rear motor 240 with a v8 ?

[MakotoS13]

i was reading that link and a guy says he should lose drop 30lbs by going with aluminum heads. i need to find some people that have done this sucker....

[MakotoS13]

that's be nine kinds of wednesday (which is WAY too many kinds of wednesday)

the objective here is to keep it simple.

[nismo2491]

dude makoto you forgot about something man. you can't do this swap its not JDM tyte yo.
KEvin

[Var]

nismo..makoto isnt a drifter. He doesnt know what the acronym JDM stands for anyways...

[citizen]

also, being from texas, he is as dumb as a brick... =P

[nismo2491]

what's with everybody raggin on texas lately? rag on MD come on I dare you, rag on one of the 13 original colonies!
KEvin

[Ian]

yeah, you'll get pwned so hard people from VA will come to get you....


we gangsta yo...

[publicenemy137]

Originally Posted by mainevent212

yeah, you'll get pwned so hard people from VA will come to get you....


we gangsta yo...

seriously, we've had like 5 machete attacks in the last couple of months, a few gang-related shootings, and around 25-35 fingers chopped off around

anyways Makoto do you know how much an LS1 or 302 swap would cost in a 240?

[sykikchimp]

..please try to stay on topic...

[MakotoS13]

sure i do. Japanese Dorifto Magic. duh.

[MakotoS13]

probably close to an RB swap.

[S14DB]

You need to look into a 427SCJ swap.

[MakotoS13]

my dad's doin that in his F250 minus the S ( i presume that is for supercharger)

[blu808]

well now that interest is confirmed. Does anyone know of anyone who makes a motor swap kit. like mentioned before?

Lets just post up any info we have..

Heres all the information i have.

v8 + light rwd car = fun and more reliable. Just change the oil every track day, and your good.

Now how do we do it without having to make all that crazy mounting crap.

[Var]

mounting crap should be pretty easy. i'd just go with solid metal mounts for a track only car which you could probably fab. You may or may not need a custom crossmember depending on which tranny you use. then there's the driveshaft..easy. Then the wiring...PITA. Probably the hardest part of the whole swap. I'm willing to be a test rat on this project. if it comes out shitty and heavy and un-driftable, then i'll just turbo charge it and run 8's.

[the head]

if you went standalone and aftermarket gauges wiring would be much easier the hardest part in the engine harness would be getting the gauge and fuel pump outputs and powering the right pins all of that would be farily easy if you had the wiring diags for the ECU harness.
the entire engine harness connects through a plug resembeing the SMJ on the nissan only a little larger this allows many vehicles that use different motors to share the same chassis harness

[nismo2491]

you fail to remember that your same little gang that does all that shit down there got their ass's handed to them and there vehicles torn up when they came down my way and tried to wreck one of my parties last easter. yeah true we had a couple of vehicles windows busted and cars dented but one of their trucks had no windows left and a few of their guys wound up in intensive care (baseball bats to heads, they came at us with uhhh plastic fucking canoe padels) sure there were injuries from my party too, you know 1 girl had to get her rings cut off her fingers, another girls face was cut up and she needed a butterfly after she got shoved into a window, but no major injuries at my party, and none of my people got arrested like theirs did. so uhhh md > va even with the faggot ass ms13's

back on topic I think you could fairly easily fab up mounts for this swap. you'd have choice of framerails with long mounts or crossmember.
KEvin

[MakotoS13]

so:

-custom driveshaft
-motor mounts
-tranny mount/modifed crossmember maybe
-aftermarket gauge assembly
-painless wiring kit
-radiator
-motor
-tranny
-clutch

what about all of the brake lights and headlights? thats where i think it'd start to get tricky.

[lsk12]

Hehe nice topic I can tell you theres plenty of room for an all alloy DOHC
V8 in the s13 engine bay it works out lighter than stock and has so much usable power and torque engine is 1UZ









check out my big post for more pics

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...471#post626471

[Var]

i wonder if they make carburetor kits for LS1's. lol.. Say bye bye to wiring problems




edit:
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/man_chevy_ls1.html



"These Edelbrock Performer LS1 intake manifold kits will allow you to bolt a carburetor on your LS1 engine. They include a unique ignition control module that works with the OEM sensors to fire the distributorless ignition system, giving you a choice to choose between six timing curves."

[S14DB]

I would go with the VH45DE to keep it in the family before at 1uz.

[TokyoNights]

That lex v8 is big pimpin

[nismo2491]

makoto: painless makes a 5.0swap wiring kit for older muscle cars IIRC so you could just get that, and then use your factory chasis harness to still run all your brake lights and stuff, the only thing would probably be fuel pump which you could just re-wire to a normal switch+relay anyways
KEvin

[wootwoot]

I must copy lsk12.....