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Old 08-08-2019, 08:54 AM   #1441
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Wait, now you want people voting in places they haven't lived in for years because you want them to be homeless in other areas?



I know how stupid and pathetic people are capable of being, Fox News still exists.
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And I don’t know man, you guys have some pretty mug problems off your own.



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Huh, I didn’t realize you heard that. Must be so.
He's the king of bullshit and deflection.

I somehow feel this is his life...

*here's about one black guy with no ID*

Gabby : Blacks are clearly too stupid to get ID! IDs are Racist!!

*meets single rural person who doesn't like big city*

Gabby : My gawd these rural folk are backwards and stupid! He may have even like Trump! What disgusting peasants, no wonder our great city is a shit hole, we're totally surrounded by these trash people and can't escape.
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More wisdom from Dan O’Donnell

If liberals cared so much and Democrat poi’s lies are so effective, why aren’t these cities shining examples of HOW a city should be ran, with no poverty and no crime? Because liberals don’t give a fuck and democratic policies are shown time and time again to not work.
What are you talking about? No City is a utopia, society itself is a struggle. The U.S. was doomed when we became a two party system, and allowed greed to manifest itself in our politics. Capitalism is great when your the one profiting, and Socialism leads to coddling. How about we take a look at other Countries who have less poverty, less crime, better schools, and offer it citizens a comprehensive medical benefits. Then lets continue this conversation.
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What are you talking about? No City is a utopia, society itself is a struggle. The U.S. was doomed when we became a two party system, and allowed greed to manifest itself in our politics. Capitalism is great when your the one profiting, and Socialism leads to coddling. How about we take a look at other Countries who have less poverty, less crime, better schools, and offer it citizens a comprehensive medical benefits. Then lets continue this conversation.
Wanna actually list those countries?

Let me guess.... NORWAY!

4 Million people with a single ethnic, religious, cultural and language background, living in an isolated country with an oil supply that matches Suadi Arabia or Texas.
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Wanna actually list those countries?

Let me guess... NORWAY!

4 Million people with a single ethnic, religious, cultural and language background, living in an isolated country with an oil supply that matches Suadi Arabia or Texas.
Actually, all the Nordic countries kick are an ass in every category. Their diversity's not on par with the U.S. Singapore is up there in all categories and they are a diverse country. The Nordic countries have oil, and they lead the world in green technology. Electric cars, hydrogen cars, and mass transit. What gives these countries an edge over the U.S.? How do we compete and spread prosperity in this country? Does it start with our elected officials, or does it start from the bottom and works it's way up?

https://fr.april-international.com/e...thcare-systems

https://worldtop20.org/education-dat...SAAEgIZV_D_BwE

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...m-gun-violence
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Exactly, and the us has the most millionaires in the world thanks to capitalism, the vast majority self-made. If that doesnt inspire others, nothing will. Truth is, we're surrounded by lazy conformists, and they deserve to be poor.
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Actually, all the Nordic countries kick are an ass in every category. Their diversity's not on par with the U.S. Singapore is up there in all categories and they are a diverse country. The Nordic countries have oil, and they lead the world in green technology. Electric cars, hydrogen cars, and mass transit. What gives these countries an edge over the U.S.? How do we compete and spread prosperity in this country? Does it start with our elected officials, or does it start from the bottom and works it's way up?



https://fr.april-international.com/e...thcare-systems



https://worldtop20.org/education-dat...SAAEgIZV_D_BwE



https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...m-gun-violence
I grew up in Norway. It's as I said.

4 Million Middle Class White Christians
All the Money of Texas
That's your Utopia.

Plenty of regions in America are just like that. Affluent, wealthy, successful, no crime, Tesla in every garage, kids go to top performing private schools.

You can't hyper focus on a single pin point of Europe or Asia and compare it to all of the US. Might as well say "Why can't Baltimore be like the Hamptons? Why doesn't Compton get its shit together like Huntington Beach? Fucks up with Detroit, be like Carmal!!"

Finland has thr highest suicide rate in the world BTW.

Singapore has some of the most brutal laws and social norms in the world. Want to spit gum on the street? 20 cane lashes. Work less then 60 hours a week? Are you a lazy piece of shit!??

In the US you can't even tell a kid in a class room "they are bad" cause it will hurt their self esteem. I'd love to see what people say when you bring back ruler beatings.....
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Some more ways to eat cheap. Thanks Boris.

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Also, this entire article is horse shit.
First how about comparing "gun death" to number of guns, since we have something like 500 million guns in this country. They also always rope in suicide, accident and self defense to bolster those numbers. Other countries do not.

Our actual "murder" rate is 4.7 putting us in the lower global half.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...y-country.html


I'd be curious what that number is without certain demographics that seem to always bring the whole US average down.

Oh, they have that, it's 2.6... Which is a lot closer to Norway's 2.2 hmm..



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Lets not use math the CDC's math! If you want 2018 crime stats to go the FBI website. It's there forever one to see, it's the most accurate!

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Just release the taxes for the past 10 years, problem solved. Its funny how fast he bashes the Clintons when he has over 28 women accusing him or sexual assault and even rape. I'm not a fan of the Clinton family but if I was the President I will let this one fade away.
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Just release the taxes for the past 10 years, problem solved. Its funny how fast he bashes the Clintons when he has over 28 women accusing him or sexual assault and even rape. I'm not a fan of the Clinton family but if I was the President I will let this one fade away.
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Epstein's death is one thing that both Trump & Clinton benefit from.
This is the thing I do not agree with the current news cycle rhetoric.

There is a WEALTH of much higher profile people wrapped up in eppstein case (which is why he got a sweetheart deal to begin with on his first go around.....which is disgusting in and of itself). Did ANYONE take the time to actually read the names that were released this weekend?? Nope! The news cycle went straight to conspiracy theory and op-eds.....

The fact that BOTH the left and right are leveraging a picture and video as evidence to culpability and association is a whole bunch of bullshit!

I wish the media would also wait on the fucking coroner. Why the hell do we have a 24 hour news cycle from all sides with panels on to why he would commit suicide with no categorical evidence is not journalism.

And the fact that trump was so quick to post a conspiracy theory with no evidence is just fanning the flames.....
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You're not wrong.

It is wild to me that a guy who could bring down TONS of billionaires (*communists sounds*) who had already 'tried' to commit suicide weeks earlier was left unattended for hours.

As for Trump, he knows his supporters will believe literally any thing he says. He stopped pretending to care about the vast majority of people in this country a long time ago.
Anyone that does not belive there is foul play here is a fucking idiot or a liar.

Epstine had 5 decks of cards up his sleeve, billions of dollars and had already been outed as the child prostitute king 20 years ago... They trial had not even started. There is zero reason for him to be "The Happening" himself at every chance possible.


Just watch, with his death the focus will shift to how it the suicide happened. All processing of the data and evidence collected related to his crimes, co-conspirators and associates will end. Evidence will become lost, deleted and corruptted.

Hate Trump all you want, he's clean on this one.



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To all those who said Trump was okay with legal immigrants:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/u...imes&smtyp=cur

SPOILER: He isn't.

Trump is trying to limit ALL immigration, you know, like white supremacists want.
I support that.

Why is it anyone awaiting legal immigration must show financial support and sign a no-assistance waiver good for 5 years or face criminal charges, but some fence jumper on food stamps should be allowed to have a green card?
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No one cared about ICE raids under Obama. Again, selective outrage shows this is all just virtue signaling.

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With four months still remaining, the Trump administration has deported 282,242 illegal immigrants this fiscal year, its highest annual total since Trump took office, but still significantly fewer than Obama deported in each of the early years of his administration, according to Department of Homeland Security data review by Axios.

Under Obama, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) deported more than 385,000 immigrants each fiscal year from 2009-2011 before reaching a high of 409,849 in 2012. In contrast, the Trump administration deported only 226,119 in fiscal year 2017, and roughly 250,000 in fiscal year 2018.
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You are conflating entirely two different scenarios.

No one here has denied the number of folks Obama has deported and spool, corbic and yourself constantly quote this stat as a comparison to raids. I even posted a fact sheet from DHS and acknowledge it (which spool promptly ignored and reposted the same stat from DHS......but whatever)

What Obama did was not targeted is the keen difference.
Obama never targeted children and separated them from their parents for example. Detention centers were setup for children who crossed the border unaccompanied

Why do you always seem to gloss over this one keen piece of info when trying to make the comparison?

And of the 600+ people detained, close to 400 were legal. So ice went in and detained LEGAL immigrants as well.

But fuck all this. These folks, regardless of illegal status was HIRED by a company. Why is there no outrage for the companies actively undermining our own citizens by seeking out cheap labor? Isn't that the reason for the outrage?? Illegals are taking our jobs, etc etc?? Folks are quick to negate this very demographic..



Which mind you, the same company is slated to host a job fair this week to potentially hire more illegal immigrants....

So yeah.
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Additonal, deportation =/= ICE raids.

What you posted @exitspeed is a deportation stat (and please cite your source). No where does it delve into ICE raids.
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How many kids did Obama kill with Drones?
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And what does folks fleeing from drug warlords have to do with a war torn middle east where militants are intertwined with the locals that the US in advertently funded themselves through operation Cyclone??

There must be something in that Corbic water that explains the constant pretzel logic.......

Corbic pretzel logic with a random meme thrown in for good measure to the fucking moon!!!!
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