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KA24DESOneThree · 07-26-2019, 04:48 PM

I could never build any one car that was exactly what I want to build.

I have six or seven S-chassis builds in my head, from my time attack car to early '90s Japanese-street-drifter style to Nismo 270R clone.

spooled240 · 07-26-2019, 06:58 PM

I've been driving my s14 again this past week and it's been fun. I forgot how light these cars feel. I don't consider my IS very heavy at 3300lbs, but it's still 500lbs heavier than the 240 lol. 4000lb cars on the road just seems ridiculous even if it does have 500+ hp.

Corbic · 07-26-2019, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

I've been driving my s14 again this past week and it's been fun. I forgot how light these cars feel. I don't consider my IS very heavy at 3300lbs, but it's still 500lbs heavier than the 240 lol. 4000lb cars on the road just seems ridiculous even if it does have 500+ hp.

Full tank, interior and me, 4,480lbs on the scale. Car is a tank but it moves out.

I've had cars that weighted as little as 2,400lb, and the G55 was 6,700lb.

spooled240 · 07-27-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Full tank, interior and me, 4,480lbs on the scale. Car is a tank but it moves out.

I've had cars that weighted as little as 2,400lb, and the G55 was 6,700lb.

What's up with that 1 sec reaction time? lol

The new Chargers are pretty cool but I would have to drive one and see how it corners.

Corbic · 07-30-2019, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

What's up with that 1 sec reaction time? lol

The new Chargers are pretty cool but I would have to drive one and see how it corners.

I suck and I kept messing with the transbrake.

If you want handling, make sure it has a dynamic package or is a T/A. Preferably a widebody with the 305 Square setup.

1320 has softer suspension for the strip and it's noticeable.

jedi03 · 07-29-2019, 09:52 AM

turbo lag lol...that's a good run imo...i really enjoy my sti, could use more power/gas mileage lol but overall its for me...little heavier and it feels that way, sometimes do miss my s13 and fc for that agility! and also once in a while my AW11

spooled240 · 07-29-2019, 09:01 PM

More like neuro-lag lol

I need more power in my s14. I was having problems with the ebc so I'm just running the wg spring on 8 psi..tapering down to 6 psi at redline. On the plus side I have an open dump so everyone can at least hear my car chirpin' to high 14's lmao

Farzam · 07-30-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

What's up with that 1 sec reaction time? lol

The new Chargers are pretty cool but I would have to drive one and see how it corners.

They corner alright, depending on spec as mentioned. I've only driven a hellcat Charger, but the steering response wasn't as horrid as I anticipated. It was fun, I got to do some pulls. Launch control was ehh. For a $600/mo lease it's probably one of the most fun cars you can get.

SupaDoopa · 07-30-2019, 06:17 AM

All that drivetrain abuse to get walked by Civics.

spooled240 · 07-30-2019, 04:40 PM

I test drove an n55 335i and was surprisingly unimpressed. The car felt large, heavy and underpowered with vague feedback. Since then I've just assumed anything over 3500lbs needs at least 400hp to feel fast.

Corbic · 07-30-2019, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

I test drove an n55 335i and was surprisingly unimpressed. The car felt large, heavy and underpowered with vague feedback. Since then I've just assumed anything over 3500lbs needs at least 400hp to feel fast.

Zupra is a dog.

https://youtu.be/awGjzW3vzPU

$60k and Micky Thompsons to run a 12.5... And get dragged by $40k Mustangs and Challengers.

potatomonkey99 · 07-30-2019, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

$60k and Micky Thompsons to run a 12.5... And get dragged by $40k Mustangs and Challengers.

Not everything is about the drag strip.

gbaby2089 · 07-31-2019, 07:32 AM

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Not everything is about the drag strip.

Don't bother with him. Just putting his barge into "D" takes every bit of his brain functionality.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 07-30-2019, 09:14 PM

theyre gonna wreck that torque converter... stupid automatic transmissions

spooled240 · 07-31-2019, 12:18 AM

To be fair the gt350 is over 60k and runs 12's. That's a hair faster than a stock mustang gt lol

Corbic · 07-31-2019, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

To be fair the gt350 is over 60k and runs 12's. That's a hair faster than a stock mustang gt lol

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Originally Posted by potatomonkey99

Not everything is about the drag strip.

This is the new Supra, not an MR2 or Miata.

Nobody bought a MKIII or MKIV because of thier autocross dominance, light weight or road feel.

It was an attractive Coupe with spacious interior that was easy to tune and make big power. The MKIV shined because it also had a transmission, rear end and suspension geometry that supported the big power.

Maybe Toyota should have just turbocharged the FRZBGT86 and charged 30-35k for it.

The Zupra is going to be priced alongside a 500hp Mid Engine DCT Corvette, a flat plane crank, +8000rpm, manual only, track beast Mustang, etc.

If anything, the Hellcat and Z06 are the modern "Supras".

spooled240 · 07-31-2019, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

This is the new Supra, not an MR2 or Miata.

Nobody bought a MKIII or MKIV because of thier autocross dominance, light weight or road feel.

It was an attractive Coupe with spacious interior that was easy to tune and make big power. The MKIV shined because it also had a transmission, rear end and suspension geometry that supported the big power.

Maybe Toyota should have just turbocharged the FRZBGT86 and charged 30-35k for it.

The Zupra is going to be priced alongside a 500hp Mid Engine DCT Corvette, a flat plane crank, +8000rpm, manual only, track beast Mustang, etc.

If anything, the Hellcat and Z06 are the modern "Supras".

I'm more disappointed at the fact that the Supra doesn't come in manual. I'm sure the whole drivetrain can handle some good power.

tuzzio · 07-31-2019, 08:08 AM

It takes like 1,200 hp for a MK4 supra to run an 11. Don't be surprised.

jedi03 · 07-31-2019, 11:03 AM

+1 why are there no forced induction factory options on the FRS or BRZ? they would have made a killing IMO, but devils advocate for my question is they were just trying to bring back the nostalgia of the AE86 and not make some current version of it...i think would make some awesome AWD/RWD with either WRX or STI turbo setup and some nice brembos as a factory option...

RalliartRsX · 07-31-2019, 11:13 AM

A turbo BRZ would take away sales from the STi/WRX.

It's all business. Different market

drift freaq · 07-31-2019, 11:36 AM

A Turbo BRZ might have made me think twice before buying my FiST. Of course that did not happen and I have a big smile on my face all the time. I also just got back from Octane Academy at Miller Motorsports Park mm... cough.. cough Utah Motorsports Park now.

Toyed around with trying to find another S13 but really want another S30 240z and probably would be easier to find :lol:

Corbic · 07-31-2019, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gbaby2089

Don't bother with him. Just putting his barge into "D" takes every bit of his brain functionality.

So Salty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spooled240

I'm more disappointed at the fact that the Supra doesn't come in manual. I'm sure the whole drivetrain can handle some good power.

Yup, and no DCT either. Both are options from BMW. Hard to make a "oh its not supposed to be a drag car, it's a driver's car" argument while rocking a V6 Charger's 8spd auto.

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Originally Posted by jedi03

+1 why are there no forced induction factory options on the FRS or BRZ? they would have made a killing IMO, but devils advocate for my question is they were just trying to bring back the nostalgia of the AE86 and not make some current version of it...i think would make some awesome AWD/RWD with either WRX or STI turbo setup and some nice brembos as a factory option...

Arrogants and Stubbornness. Even a 2.5L would have given the car the mid-range grunt it desperately needed.

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

A turbo BRZ would take away sales from the STi/WRX.

It's all business. Different market

Doubtful.

It would have stolen sales from Camaro, Mustang and Miata. It's a drifto car, not a rally car. Sort of like how the Focus RS doesn't steal sales from a Mustang GT.

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

A Turbo BRZ might have made me think twice before buying my FiST. Of course that did not happen and I have a big smile on my face all the time. I also just got back from Octane Academy at Miller Motorsports Park mm... cough.. cough Utah Motorsports Park now.

Toyed around with trying to find another S13 but really want another S30 240z and probably would be easier to find [emoji38]

Yeah, the idea of dumping thousands into a brand new car just becomes stupid as you move along the hobby. Nothing like just turn key, trouble free fun.

Corbic · 07-31-2019, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

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Toyed around with trying to find another S13 but really want another S30 240z and probably would be easier to find [emoji38]

Some nice ones on BAT

RalliartRsX · 07-31-2019, 04:12 PM

Corbic, you right you right.

Just read an interview with some big shot from Scooby to confirm. I think he used the term "drag car" lol!

RalliartRsX · 07-31-2019, 05:41 PM

BAT has some of the most bizarre sale prices

Tye E46 M3 that sold for 90k that cred is relegated to a few choice parts, questionable reason for interior swap and no pedigree apart from Instagram likes is a perfect example

SupaDoopa · 08-01-2019, 06:28 AM

Yet some people swear one silly sale on BaT dictates the market. Good luck.

Corbic · 08-01-2019, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SupaDoopa

Yet some people swear one silly sale on BaT dictates the market. Good luck.

That's as bad as going by Barret Jackson or eBay.

All it takes to drive prices up is two buyers at thr exact same time wanting the exact same car. Looking at BAT, looks like air-cooled 911 prices have... Cooled off.

SupaDoopa · 08-01-2019, 10:53 AM

Some moron here tried to say BaT/BJ/eBay sets the market value. I nearly shit myself. That shit is more inconsistent than anything. If it was the same number across the board, maybe. But one fucking idiot willing to pay stupid money for something 'that one time' doesn't make your piece of shit rot box worth any more.

spooled240 · 08-01-2019, 11:00 AM

BaT is all over the place, especially with Japanese cars.

I'm still kicking myself over this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-39/

This is probably worth at least 25k right now.

Corbic · 08-01-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spooled240

BaT is all over the place, especially with Japanese cars.

I'm still kicking myself over this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-39/

This is probably worth at least 25k right now.

That got stolen.

American cars are the same way.

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07-26-2019, 04:48 PM	#1
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 39 Posts: 2,564 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I could never build any one car that was exactly what I want to build. I have six or seven S-chassis builds in my head, from my time attack car to early '90s Japanese-street-drifter style to Nismo 270R clone.

07-26-2019, 06:58 PM	#2
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I've been driving my s14 again this past week and it's been fun. I forgot how light these cars feel. I don't consider my IS very heavy at 3300lbs, but it's still 500lbs heavier than the 240 lol. 4000lb cars on the road just seems ridiculous even if it does have 500+ hp.

07-29-2019, 09:52 AM	#6
jedi03 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: albuquerque Posts: 1,842 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	turbo lag lol...that's a good run imo...i really enjoy my sti, could use more power/gas mileage lol but overall its for me...little heavier and it feels that way, sometimes do miss my s13 and fc for that agility! and also once in a while my AW11

07-29-2019, 09:01 PM	#7
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	More like neuro-lag lol I need more power in my s14. I was having problems with the ebc so I'm just running the wg spring on 8 psi..tapering down to 6 psi at redline. On the plus side I have an open dump so everyone can at least hear my car chirpin' to high 14's lmao

07-30-2019, 06:17 AM	#9
SupaDoopa Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 隠された意図 Age: 37 Posts: 3,689 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	All that drivetrain abuse to get walked by Civics.

07-30-2019, 04:40 PM	#10
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I test drove an n55 335i and was surprisingly unimpressed. The car felt large, heavy and underpowered with vague feedback. Since then I've just assumed anything over 3500lbs needs at least 400hp to feel fast.

07-31-2019, 12:18 AM	#15
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	To be fair the gt350 is over 60k and runs 12's. That's a hair faster than a stock mustang gt lol

07-31-2019, 08:08 AM	#18
tuzzio Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,649 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	It takes like 1,200 hp for a MK4 supra to run an 11. Don't be surprised.

07-31-2019, 11:03 AM	#19
jedi03 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: albuquerque Posts: 1,842 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	+1 why are there no forced induction factory options on the FRS or BRZ? they would have made a killing IMO, but devils advocate for my question is they were just trying to bring back the nostalgia of the AE86 and not make some current version of it...i think would make some awesome AWD/RWD with either WRX or STI turbo setup and some nice brembos as a factory option...

07-31-2019, 11:13 AM	#20
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,793 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	A turbo BRZ would take away sales from the STi/WRX. It's all business. Different market

07-31-2019, 04:12 PM	#24
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,793 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Corbic, you right you right. Just read an interview with some big shot from Scooby to confirm. I think he used the term "drag car" lol!

07-31-2019, 05:41 PM	#25
RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,793 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	BAT has some of the most bizarre sale prices Tye E46 M3 that sold for 90k that cred is relegated to a few choice parts, questionable reason for interior swap and no pedigree apart from Instagram likes is a perfect example

08-01-2019, 06:28 AM	#26
SupaDoopa Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 隠された意図 Age: 37 Posts: 3,689 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	Yet some people swear one silly sale on BaT dictates the market. Good luck.

08-01-2019, 10:53 AM	#28
SupaDoopa Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 隠された意図 Age: 37 Posts: 3,689 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	Some moron here tried to say BaT/BJ/eBay sets the market value. I nearly shit myself. That shit is more inconsistent than anything. If it was the same number across the board, maybe. But one fucking idiot willing to pay stupid money for something 'that one time' doesn't make your piece of shit rot box worth any more.

08-01-2019, 11:00 AM	#29
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,203 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	BaT is all over the place, especially with Japanese cars. I'm still kicking myself over this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-39/ This is probably worth at least 25k right now.