Feds Seize Illegal Nissan Skyline GT-Rs In Cali [Illegal Imports]

[Pure_JDM]

"Oh, WAAAAA, I did something illegal and don't want to suffer the consequences."

[Phlip]

This is the INTERNETS!!!
It is my RIGHT to argue my as-assumed right to continue doing whatever established item I was doing, as long as I can present a weak (or non-existent) argument as to why it was not "that bad" in the first place.
No, nevermind the law established when I (no, not me, I will be 32 in 110 days) was not yet old enough to drive, I can make an as-supported-by-like-minded-juveniles theory as to why I haven't done anything THAT bad!
If you can't agree with that, then you are a HATER.

[daryl337]

Collector vehicles are possible to register dependent upon local regulations.

IIRC in WA state you could register a vehicle as a collector's car if it met certain requirements, and could bypass many registration requirements held standard to normal cars if the vehicle is driven less than a certain amount of miles a year. Something like 3K miles a year. I'd of course need to check with my father, but I believe that is how we got my brother's supercharged big block Nova registered and drivable on the street.



Sometimes, you will find small loopholes in the system... but you need to be careful about whether you view the loophole as "solid" enough to commit forking out a ton of cash on.

Also, loopholes like this have a tendancy to get closed fairly quickly, as no "rule maker" likes to see people who have "cheated" the rules.

[LloydXmas]

I am not canadian nor did I install any accord headlights onto a car, thats the DOT laws in Canada though. I have never had a gtst,or gts25t either I was simply proving a point. I know what a frame rail is and the bottom of both cars are very similar. If not then why does a s13 and r32 rear subframe share everything? You can literally swap them, also the front crossmember to what car is needed for a rb swap in a s13? DING DING DING a R32 crossmember! Wow!

Besides wheel wells and shock mounting points in the front there is no significant difference, and the shock mounting points of a r32 gtr are the same as a z32. Shocks in the rear as well.

Originally Posted by LloydXmas

I am not canadian nor did I install any accord headlights onto a car, thats the DOT laws in Canada though. I have never had a gtst,or gts25t either I was simply proving a point. I know what a frame rail is and the bottom of both cars are very similar. If not then why does a s13 and r32 rear subframe share everything? You can literally swap them, also the front crossmember to what car is needed for a rb swap in a s13? DING DING DING a R32 crossmember! Wow!

Besides wheel wells and shock mounting points in the front there is no significant difference, and the shock mounting points of a r32 gtr are the same as a z32. Shocks in the rear as well.

congratulations captain obvious, its called cost-cutting solutions across different platforms. just because a car can share a caliper or a cross member does not mean its fucking identical. similar? sure. identical? NO. its like saying you look similar to your brother. are you your brother, lloyd? are you identical twins?

think about it, lots of parts can interchange or be MADE to interchange but out the box, its not always the case.

anyway, we're rambling about a completely dead topic. if you think putting accord headlights onto your skyline is a realistic solution, then thats on you. open business and see if people will share your fine appreciation for putting shitty accord headlights on a classy car like the skyline.

i guess the difference between people like me and people like you is that you're easy to please. to you, parts are all the same, if they kinda line-up then its all gravy. i have really high standards, i dont fuck around. if something doesnt fit, i dont believe in grabbing a mallet and attempting to make it fit and then reaching for bondo & filler when shit doesnt line up.

this topic is DEAD

[LloydXmas]

lol apparently you dont know my quality of work.

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Shake your dicks. This pissing contest is over

[daryl337]

Hey, I bet I can hit that fence post from here....

[murderrsirenss]

Its not just in cali. Theres a dude that got his taken in NC too.

[Chrischeezer]

2005 called... they want their jz vs. rb thread back

Originally Posted by Chrischeezer

2005 called... they want their jz vs. rb thread back

wasnt that on freshalloy?


does that site even exist anymore? almost as ancient as automotive forums.. i mean gawd, who goes on there?!

[driftertim]

We have R34s and S15s in Canada plated as R32 or even R33, and S15s plated as S13s or S14s. This is just a really shitty deal for people in Cali. Instead of crushing them, they should part them out on Zilvia and give the money back to the people LOL. The Feds are ridiculous for even intervening in such a way. Quebec is the only Province out of the ten Canadian provinces to BAN JDM outright as of last year. But as long as the car is 25 years old, its welcome to be imported. That leaves us with some Land Cruisers, AE86s, and many more of your faves to be imported Legally. Personally I couldnt care for the Illegal JDMs but it is THE MAN showing his power to twist the arms of the non-conformists.

[Chrischeezer]

^ i dunno, probably
theres always someone out there...ya know
the fact is both motors suck.

[illvialuver]

If anyone is going to be so ignorant or racist to think that you can lump all of any group of people into one basket on anything, you are full of shit and are just a shitty insecure person.

I am going to gamble that anyone who would talk shit on Canada or it's people , either A don't know any , or B have never been there.

So you should just shut up.

Back on topic, yeah it sucks that people are getting their cars jacked by the feds, but it is just easier to just wait till we can have the cars here legally. Their are plenty of other cars here in the states that are cool enough as it is.
Bitching about the feds wont do any good.

[JeKyL]

Why is everyone blaming cali law on this, this is the dam bull shit feds! Some prick ausa and special agents aka(DOUCHEBAGS) who are sucking their superiors d***s trying to get that promotion and good rep so they go after the innocent honest hard working people who don't want to abide to some fascist law that harms nobodys well being in order to hide the fact that they can't catch the real criminals smuggling drugs, weapons, humans, and etc, I've served my country however do not support the bs crap law enforcement and judicial system which behaves like hitlers ss

[daryl337]

... *brain asplodes*

[Toi]

^^ Agree, and just to point out the obvious the more people try to import them before they are 25 years old the closer to an out right ban they are getting. Just freaking wait!!!

[ROUGE180]

In 2014 we can all import R32's lol.. I'm already saving my money.

[kenS14]

reasons why people should invest into a subaru WRX or STI or RS(swapped)...
you still get to have AWD and be able to boost...
these laws are b/s tho...
can't wait to move out of socal...emissions laws are lame.

Originally Posted by ROUGE180

In 2014 we can all import R32's lol.. I'm already saving my money.

I guess would too since its a R32(only if i deploy before that)...

[Rafa-Z]

use mexican plates I know a couple of people with skylines that can drive them on the road. Insurance costs about 150 a year. I got mexican plates and got pulled over a month ago for a stop sign and just got the ticket no questions asked. I got mexican plates because of a ref ticket I got with my sr and it was dismissed after importing it.

[SLiDe_WaYz]

Originally Posted by ROUGE180

In 2014 we can all import R32's lol.. I'm already saving my money.

By that time, Skylines are going to be everywhere since EVERYONE will be importing them. I still think even though it will be "legal" to import them that year, our awesome goverment still wont allow it to be imported "legally". I personally dont really see a difference in any car over seas and here. Some of the chassis in the states are made over there. Wouldnt that almost be the exact same as a USDM/JAP made car ? Only exception and difference I see is the glass, and the airbags, IMO i dont really see ANY other difference between the two.

By the time you can import the car so many people will be doing it the car wont be worth near as much as they are now since they will be everywhere. Like in Canada you can get one for 5-8K. In the states the same car will sell for double if not triple if its legal in the states.

[Toi]

I wish I was that lucky, I am a Subaru fanatic at heart and the 22B meets the limited production quota for being importable but its still not allowed. I never thought the Skyline GT-R was all that (Hako the exception) and after modding a 94 WRX and spanking modded GT-R ass all day long I realized unless I am running on the Highway, the GT-R is just another car.

[Toi]

Glass, airbags, emissions, bumpers, no side impact doors......Not crash tested and not held up to American safety standards.....and probably a big fat dose of the Big 3 fighting it....

[codyace]

Originally Posted by Toi

Glass, airbags, emissions, bumpers, no side impact doors......Not crash tested and not held up to American safety standards.....and probably a big fat dose of the Big 3 fighting it....

I *really* doubt The big 3 even remotely cares about importing 10-20 year year old Nissans.

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by codyace

I *really* doubt The big 3 even remotely cares about importing 10-20 year year old Nissans.

Seriously, protectionism for foreign car imports in the U.S. LOL

[NINE]

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Seriously, protectionism for foreign car imports in the U.S. LOL

Correct it was Mercedes that made Grey market cars illegal.

This avenue was increasingly successful, especially in cases where only lower-specification models were officially offered on the US market. For example, Mercedes-Benz chose to offer only the lower-output 380SEL model to Americans in 1981, ensuring a huge demand for the much faster 500SEL available in the rest of the world. BMW had the same issue with their 745i Turbo. The grey market was successful enough that it ate significantly into the business of Mercedes-Benz of North America and their dealers. The corporation launched a successful million-dollar congressional lobbying effort to stop private importation of vehicles not officially intended for the U.S. market. An organisation called AICA (Automotive Importers Compliance Association) was formed by importers in California, Florida, New York, Texas, and elsewhere to counter some of these actions by Mercedes lobbyists, but the Motor Vehicle Safety Compliance Act was passed in 1988, effectively ending private import of grey-market vehicles to the United States. No evidence was presented that grey-import vehicles' safety performance differed significantly from that of US models, and there have been allegations of improper lobbying, but the issue has never been raised in court.

Grey import vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[drift freaq]

Originally Posted by NINE

Correct it was Mercedes that made Grey market cars illegal.

This avenue was increasingly successful, especially in cases where only lower-specification models were officially offered on the US market. For example, Mercedes-Benz chose to offer only the lower-output 380SEL model to Americans in 1981, ensuring a huge demand for the much faster 500SEL available in the rest of the world. BMW had the same issue with their 745i Turbo. The grey market was successful enough that it ate significantly into the business of Mercedes-Benz of North America and their dealers. The corporation launched a successful million-dollar congressional lobbying effort to stop private importation of vehicles not officially intended for the U.S. market. An organisation called AICA (Automotive Importers Compliance Association) was formed by importers in California, Florida, New York, Texas, and elsewhere to counter some of these actions by Mercedes lobbyists, but the Motor Vehicle Safety Compliance Act was passed in 1988, effectively ending private import of grey-market vehicles to the United States. No evidence was presented that grey-import vehicles' safety performance differed significantly from that of US models, and there have been allegations of improper lobbying, but the issue has never been raised in court.

Grey import vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yup, I helped import an original European version E30 M3 for my friend back in the 80's. Grey Market cars was decent business in the San Francisco bay area.

The issue really is not on lawmakers radar. This is why Homeland security has gotten all misguided in the issue. They seem to think that these cars represent a threat to the security of the country, because they are illegal and lawmakers could care less about the whole thing.

[Toi]

Originally Posted by codyace

I *really* doubt The big 3 even remotely cares about importing 10-20 year year old Nissans.

See above post, my family has been in the car business a LONG time.

[kyles1988]

http://wh.gov/b6q

Petition to change DOT exemption from 25 to 15 years.

[Presha]

That is soo shit! All that effort to sieze cars when they could be hunting down real crims