Wheel Fitment Question Thread

[hellion240sx]

Originally Posted by 240drifter1

15x8 +0 on an s14

perfect! Have any specifics on it?
is that your car? So I can just pm you?

[simmode1]

Ok. Just picked up another S13. This time with Hicas. This might be a stupid question but: if you're planning for hellafllush wheel fitment with minimal clearance in the rear, do you HAVE to eliminate the HICAS on account of the rear wheels moving?

[zooopreme]

Just get rid of it. If there is minimal clearance where the wheel could be close to touch the coilover, then yes, it will start rubbing. If your tires are already hitting the fender, HICAS will cause it to rub in certain areas of the fender. It's not like the wheels are turning like the front but the fender to tire contact will certainly increase.

The point I'm trying to make is...HICAS just suck period. Get rid of it.

[simmode1]

^^^Hmmm... I thought so. I haven't gotten to drive this or any HICAS equipped car yet, so once I do, I'll see what fuss is about. If I like the HICAS in comparison to my other non-HICAS S13, I may just keep it and plan a more modest setup. I'm thinking of 17x10+20 255/40 rears on the HICAS car...

[bentmode360]

im putting on coils, wheels, and basic suspension arms this weekend and i have to fit 18x10+18 wheels on the front of an s13 with stock fenders.

im in need of some info and guidance on doin this the most simplest and right way (without hitting anything).

here are a couple questions that are goin thru my head.

-do i need spacers?
-do i need tubs?
-how much negitive camber should i run?
-where should i set my caster at?

anybody got a secret recipe they wanna give out?

[simmode1]

^^^What coilovers are you using? Most will not clear 18x10+18 without spacers... Zoopreme is the only person I know of that managed to do it...

Oh and is this S13 or s14?

[95KA-Turbo]

Minimum requirements:

10mm spacer
225/40/18s
Pulled front fenders
As much negative camber as possible
~7 caster and lots of hammering.

[240drifter1]

Originally Posted by hellion240sx

perfect! Have any specifics on it?
is that your car? So I can just pm you?

No specifics, and yeah it was mine lol. Just bought it bone stock, slammed on PBM coils, no alignment and threw the wheels on.

[1Day]

Hey guys I got a couple questions I'm looking to have answered.

1. Does anyone have an experiance with Dmax coils on an S14? I cant get my rears every low at all. Rears don't sit at the same heights either.
Max out
Right

Left


2. I have my front camber set at -1.5 degress camber on both sides but damn my camber plates aren't ever close to being the same.
Right

Left

[Persona]

Thats how alot of S14 Chassis seem to be, its funny me and about 4 other friends all have the right quarter panel a bit lower on the wheel. I know it sounds odd but we were just as awestruck, especially since most of ours have never been in an accident.

[1Day]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'm pretty much the second owner of the car and its never been beat on to have any kind of out of the normal chassis stress. The car does have a low stance to it for daily use but I still though it would go lower. The front camber I don't get at all.. I don't see why the plate is max out on the right and I'm only getting 1.5 of neg camber... I did change the flca but they are as short as they will go.

[95KA-Turbo]

S-chassis are not rigid at all, so as you drive around and hit bumps and dips for years and years they get way out of whack.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by 1Day

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'm pretty much the second owner of the car and its never been beat on to have any kind of out of the normal chassis stress. The car does have a low stance to it for daily use but I still though it would go lower. The front camber I don't get at all.. I don't see why the plate is max out on the right and I'm only getting 1.5 of neg camber... I did change the flca but they are as short as they will go.

Are you're coilovers slotted at the strut mount? Most of the time, people's camber plate are off because they didnt realize the strut mounts are slotted and they bolted them in without thinking about it.

[1Day]

Not sure I'll have to check them out.

Ok maybe I'm not sure what you mean. Heres a picture of the uppers off the car, if that helps. Sorry 1st set of coils I've ever had....

[Zenki_516]

Originally Posted by Persona

Thats how alot of S14 Chassis seem to be, its funny me and about 4 other friends all have the right quarter panel a bit lower on the wheel. I know it sounds odd but we were just as awestruck, especially since most of ours have never been in an accident.

Noticed this on every chassis I have had.

[ChucEO]

i have the same problem with my s13, ive adjusted the coilovers 7 times now, down my measurements, locked it in place, yet, the one side the fender is lower than the other. this definitely makes me feel better, i thought maybe someone screwed with the spring pre-load on my D2's lol.

[95KA-Turbo]

Originally Posted by 1Day

Not sure I'll have to check them out.

Ok maybe I'm not sure what you mean. Heres a picture of the uppers off the car, if that helps. Sorry 1st set of coils I've ever had....

[IMG]http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/j_mcgill/d4-1.jpg[/]

No, down where the two bolts go to the knuckle - the bottom mount of the coilover. The top hole is slotted on a lot of them and that will effect your camber if you don't tighten the bolt down in the right spot. Judging from your camber plates though its unlikely that is your complete problem (as its only a few mms of adjustment).

Do you have aftermarket tension rods? Do you have a power brace or some other tension rod bracket strengthening? A lot of times the tension rods or the tension rod bracket they bolt to on the front of the car is bent and that effects your whole front alignment.

[1Day]

Yeah they are slotted, that helped a little. I haven't adjusted camber yet, had to come in and thank you guys. I do have aftermarket tension rods and lower control arms. Nope on the power brace but thats one of the next things on the list. Thanks guys! Its nice to get some help from people that know what the hell I'm doing, I get sick of the "you can't do that and that won't work" that everyone here tells me lol.

[bentmode360]

Originally Posted by simmode1

^^^What coilovers are you using? Most will not clear 18x10+18 without spacers... Zoopreme is the only person I know of that managed to do it...

Oh and is this S13 or s14?

im using bc br coils

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Minimum requirements:

10mm spacer
225/40/18s
Pulled front fenders
As much negative camber as possible
~7 caster and lots of hammering.

if i get a bigger spacer will hamering still be neccessary?

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by bentmode360

im using bc br coils


if i get a bigger spacer will hamering still be neccessary?

If you get a bigger spacer the wheels won't fit inside your fenders... get some 225/35/17 and you MIGHT get away with it

[boost infested]

Just wanted to confirm this setup

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

thanks in advance...

[bentmode360]

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

If you get a bigger spacer the wheels won't fit inside your fenders... get some 225/35/17 and you MIGHT get away with it

ill probably just go with the hammering lol i already have 225/40/18 thanks for the input tho really appreciate it.

[frsh4]

Originally Posted by boost infested

Just wanted to confirm this setup

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

thanks in advance...

10.5 in front for a s13! You crazy! Forsure your gonna need tubs.

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by bentmode360

im using bc br coils


if i get a bigger spacer will hamering still be neccessary?

Seriously, wait until Zoopreme gets in here. 17x10+18's with no spacers under stock fenders. Shit looks miracluous.

You still didn't say if this was s13 or S14 though...

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by 1Day

Not sure I'll have to check them out.

Ok maybe I'm not sure what you mean. Heres a picture of the uppers off the car, if that helps. Sorry 1st set of coils I've ever had....

Take a picture of the lower section of the spring, showing the collar and the lower strut area. If its full tap, you should have 2 collars locking the springs in place and you should have 1 more collar that locks the spring tube into the lower strut. Most of us usually leave the 2 collars in place and adjust ride height only with the lower collar. You loosen the lower collar and the whole upper should just spin into the lower strut.

The back should be almost the same. The only difference is that the fronts are open bottom so you can bottom them out all the way till the lower collar touches the upper collar. The back ones, the bottom isnt hallowed thru. This is where most coilover companies are different. Some are designed to go low in the rear without touching the upper springs. Some, even maxed out in the bottom, are still not low enough.

[1Day]

Yeah my rears can't go any lower bc of the mount on the bottom. I have it set at it's lowest setting. There seems to be like a 1/4-1/2" more room, the shock just won't go any lower in the mount. I recall someone asking about drilling or tapping the lower mount to get the extra 1/4-1/2" but no one seemed 100 percent so I'll just deal with the rears for now.
The fronts were slotted, thanks!

[zooopreme]

On a serious note, why is everyone trying to push the boundaries with stock body? There's a reason why people run certain specs, BECAUSE THEY WORK WELL WITH STOCK BODIES.

If you want ridiculous sizes for the S13 you're going to spend ridiculous amounts of money on parts like suspension parts, overs, flares, etc.

Originally Posted by boost infested

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

10.5 up front will require tubs. Unless you want serious rubbing on stock inner fenders.

10.5, in general, will require much more than your average roll/pull.

Originally Posted by simmode1

17x10+18's with no spacers under stock fenders

there was a 10mm spacer requirement.

[boost infested]

Originally Posted by zooopreme

On a serious note, why is everyone trying to push the boundaries with stock body? There's a reason why people run certain specs, BECAUSE THEY WORK WELL WITH STOCK BODIES.

If you want ridiculous sizes for the S13 you're going to spend ridiculous amounts of money on parts like suspension parts, overs, flares, etc.

10.5 up front will require tubs. Unless you want serious rubbing on stock inner fenders.

10.5, in general, will require much more than your average roll/pull.

20mm wide fenders should fix that issue?

[95KA-Turbo]

Originally Posted by boost infested

Just wanted to confirm this setup

s13 coupe on stance gr+pro, stock body, rolled n pulled.

18x10.5 0 offset
225/40R all around

or

18x10.5 +15 Front
18x10.5 0 Rear
225/40R

I know the rear will work with help of the negative camber but front? Can any body confirm this?

thanks in advance...

I'd recommend:

18X9.5 +15 with 215/35s up front
18X10 +15 rear with 225/40

If you want to do a stock body set up that will look aggressive and not make your car look retarded.

S13s shouldn't be running anything wider then a 9.5 up front without tubs and/or widebody. You can make it fit but it is a massive pain in the ass and just doesn't look as good (of course this is all just my opinion).

Every once an a while a car pulls it off tastefully but usually it just looks like they're trying too hard.



edit since I see you talking about wide body fronts....thats a whole different ball game. You can get away with a 10 or even a 10.5, but without wide body out back it can look a little lopsided. I personally love S13s with wide fronts and slightly pulled rears, but usually its to run a 10J all around or 9s with a lower offset - or a thicker tire for front grip.

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by boost infested

20mm wide fenders should fix that issue?

Over fenders fix the outer clearance. The problem with 10.5 wheels is the fact that when you turn, the width of the wheel is so fat that the wheel will rub in the inner fender area. It will limit your turning radius which is why frsh, knoop, & I said you need tubs.