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xagna · 03-25-2006, 04:24 PM

Had rear subframe spacers on for about a week. When I first installed, it got rid of wheel hops, particularly on the uneven corner surfaces. But now the wheel hop is back.

Does this mean that the subframe bushings got even more smaller due to spacers and that spacers are not doing their job?

sidewayzs13 · 03-25-2006, 04:29 PM

ive always heard the the subframe spacers are just a big waste of money. so yes that could be the cause

kandyflip445 · 03-25-2006, 07:25 PM

I love my spacers. They made a big difference. Make sure it's still tight and then start checking out other parts of the suspension.

gotta240 · 03-25-2006, 08:05 PM

take the 8 or 10 hours and replace the subframe BUSHINGS.

krustindumm · 03-25-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gotta240

take the 8 or 10 hours and replace the subframe BUSHINGS.

8-10 hours, come on. It's like 2.5hrs max! Or maybe it's just because of all these damn altima's, maxima's, and Z's.

Irukandji · 03-25-2006, 09:05 PM

Wheel hop is inevitable. I have rear subframe spacers, and coils and my rear still hops once in a blue moon.

I wouldn't worry about it.

xagna · 03-25-2006, 11:22 PM

When my rear wheels loose traction at bumpy hairpin everytime, this is a big problem. Not only that I spent $60 for nothing. Pisses me off.

Irukandji · 03-26-2006, 12:25 AM

I wouldn't say that you wasted $60 considering those spacers will prevent your subframe from shifting, making your rear end feel more stable. And keep in mind $60 is a bargain for subframe spacers to begin with. It's always good to stay optimistic. What suspension are you running? Poor dampening could be the cause of your wheel hop.

xagna · 03-26-2006, 12:39 PM

You are right on your own. But it doesnt feel any more stable than before installing the spacers.

Have megan coilover.

Is there anything I can do about this besides retorquing the subframe?

s14slide · 03-26-2006, 12:59 PM

did you inspect the subframe bushings before the spacer install? Might want to check that, cuz the spacers won't help much if the rubber they're trying to compress isn't there to do so. Worn bushings on the suspension arms can also cause wheel hop, inspect those too. Shoot back here if you find something. Hope this helps. BTW, I have spacers too. Full circle aluminum and everything but the lower A arm is heim joints and I still get a small bit of wheel hop in the tight stuff and I'm running Megans too.

xagna · 03-26-2006, 09:18 PM

There were bushings left in the subframe.
Now I'm assuming that the bushings have completely collapsed.

Well... thanks for the advices. I will inspect other bushings in the area.

03-25-2006, 04:24 PM	#1
xagna Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ny Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wheel hop is back! Had rear subframe spacers on for about a week. When I first installed, it got rid of wheel hops, particularly on the uneven corner surfaces. But now the wheel hop is back. Does this mean that the subframe bushings got even more smaller due to spacers and that spacers are not doing their job?

03-25-2006, 07:25 PM	#3
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I love my spacers. They made a big difference. Make sure it's still tight and then start checking out other parts of the suspension. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

03-26-2006, 12:59 PM	#10
s14slide Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Nippon Age: 43 Posts: 630 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	did you inspect the subframe bushings before the spacer install? Might want to check that, cuz the spacers won't help much if the rubber they're trying to compress isn't there to do so. Worn bushings on the suspension arms can also cause wheel hop, inspect those too. Shoot back here if you find something. Hope this helps. BTW, I have spacers too. Full circle aluminum and everything but the lower A arm is heim joints and I still get a small bit of wheel hop in the tight stuff and I'm running Megans too. __________________ = My day

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03-25-2006, 04:29 PM	#2
sidewayzs13 Join Date: May 2005 Location: niceville Florida Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive always heard the the subframe spacers are just a big waste of money. so yes that could be the cause

03-25-2006, 08:05 PM	#4
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	take the 8 or 10 hours and replace the subframe BUSHINGS.

03-25-2006, 09:05 PM	#6
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wheel hop is inevitable. I have rear subframe spacers, and coils and my rear still hops once in a blue moon. I wouldn't worry about it.

03-25-2006, 11:22 PM	#7
xagna Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ny Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	When my rear wheels loose traction at bumpy hairpin everytime, this is a big problem. Not only that I spent $60 for nothing. Pisses me off.

03-26-2006, 12:25 AM	#8
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wouldn't say that you wasted $60 considering those spacers will prevent your subframe from shifting, making your rear end feel more stable. And keep in mind $60 is a bargain for subframe spacers to begin with. It's always good to stay optimistic. What suspension are you running? Poor dampening could be the cause of your wheel hop.

03-26-2006, 12:39 PM	#9
xagna Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ny Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You are right on your own. But it doesnt feel any more stable than before installing the spacers. Have megan coilover. Is there anything I can do about this besides retorquing the subframe?

03-26-2006, 09:18 PM	#11
xagna Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ny Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There were bushings left in the subframe. Now I'm assuming that the bushings have completely collapsed. Well... thanks for the advices. I will inspect other bushings in the area.