Keep The SR or Go KA-T?

[cc4usmc]

I currently have a blacktop SR but im think of switching to KA-T because i will be stationed in SoCal (Camp Pendleton to be exact) at the end of the year. If it weren't for Cali's gay emissions i'd keep it. Now i want to know what you guys think. Keep the SR, or go KA-T? I'd also like to know the reasoning behind your answer. I know KA-T isn't legal either, but its easier to fix then an SR if a cop was to pop my hood and go . I'd rather not hear a bunch of "dont drive like an idiot and that wont have a reson to pull you over" etc. I just want to be prepared. Thanks Guys!

[tre]

Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I currently have a blacktop SR but im think of switching to KA-T because i will be stationed in SoCal (Camp Pendleton to be exact) at the end of the year. If it weren't for Cali's gay emissions i'd keep it. Now i want to know what you guys think. Keep the SR, or go KA-T? I know KA-T isn't legal either, but its easier to fix then an SR.

Greddy makes a Smog passing turbo kit for the KA

[cc4usmc]

Originally Posted by tre

Greddy makes a Smog passing turbo kit for the KA

I emailed Greddy a little more then a month ago and they said that the kit is still pending in California. I have also read the same thing on a number of other threads.

[aznpoopy]

that kit has been pending certification forever.
drop in a LS1. problem solved.

[cc4usmc]

Originally Posted by aznpoopy

that kit has been pending certification forever.
drop in a LS1. problem solved.

If i only had 12k!

As for everyone else that replied or PM'd me thanks a lot! I got more then i expected. My car is already registered in WA so i dont think i will have to worry about that for a little while. I just didn't know if the whole "if the car is registered out of state they can't do anything" rumor was true. i was just thinking that the sr isn't just illegal the cali but the u.s., so why would it matter right where its registered?

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by cc4usmc

If i only had 12k!

$12k! no way man. more like $5-6k

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...umber=68052346

but... since you have a sr already and your car is registered in WA, i would just leave it the way it is. keep the exterior stock looking and don't speed. bet you'll be fine.

[cc4usmc]

Originally Posted by aznpoopy

$12k! no way man. more like $5-6k

http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...umber=68052346

but... since you have a sr already and your car is registered in WA, i would just leave it the way it is. keep the exterior stock looking and don't speed. bet you'll be fine.

damn! well another tread i was looking at, the one where the ls1 is in the FD, the total cost was like 12k. does that price include the motor? shit...if i get in trouble wit hthe sr i will sell it and go ls1. or...i could sell my sr..then i'd be halfway there. but i don't know anone who can weld...

[Cashizslick]

Register your car out of state.



Problem solved.

[Jefferson]

damn I was thinking the same thingas the two post above
Either register your car in another state, or if you have money to spend on swapping and turboing a KA why not just swap in an LS1 and be done with all your problems

[tre]

both will be pains int he ass, dont do it. get a ticket mailed to that adress. You not mail it in in 15 days. Get pulled over and hauled off to jail? I wouldnt want to.

LS-1 Will throw off the weight distribution HORRIBLY in the car.

BUT it is up to you.

[Cashizslick]

Originally Posted by tre

both will be pains int he ass, dont do it. get a ticket mailed to that adress. You not mail it in in 15 days. Get pulled over and hauled off to jail? I wouldnt want to.

Who said he was gonna get tickets???


Reg it out of state somewhere. Then have the post office re-direct your mail to ur Cali Address.

[undesiredshoe]

i read somewhere, i think it was the V8 faq, that the ls1 is lighter than the ka

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by tre

LS-1 Will throw off the weight distribution HORRIBLY in the car.

i don't think it's as bad as most people assume. remember the LS1 may be bigger, but its an aluminum block. the ka24 is iron...

supposedly longblock + mani, flywheel, acc, etc weights look like this

sr ~ 330 lbs
ka ~ 370 lbs
ls ~ 390 lbs

admittedly its hard as hell to get accurate weights off the net though. you never know who is doing the weighing and whether the engine is drained, parts are off, etc.

[Neejay]

Originally Posted by aznpoopy

i don't think it's as bad as most people assume. remember the LS1 may be bigger, but its an aluminum block. the ka24 is iron...

supposedly longblock + mani, flywheel, acc, etc weights look like this

sr ~ 330 lbs
ka ~ 370 lbs
ls ~ 390 lbs

QUOTE:
Weights:
KA with Auto, Cat and accessories = 596 lbs.
LS1 w/ T56, headers, and accessories = 468 lbs

That's right folks. The iron block four cylinder is 128 pounds heavier than the aluminum LS1!

[Neejay]

QUOTE:
Weights:
KA with Auto, Cat and accessories = 596 lbs.
LS1 w/ T56, headers, and accessories = 468 lbs

That's right folks. The iron block four cylinder is 128 pounds heavier than the aluminum LS1! /QUOTE

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by Neejay

Weights:
KA with Auto, Cat and accessories = 596 lbs.
LS1 w/ T56, headers, and accessories = 468 lbs

That's right folks. The iron block four cylinder is 128 pounds heavier than the aluminum LS1!

that misleading

KA with auto = auto tranny still attached? vs. a LS1 with no trans? its probably more like 510 and 470.

still i agree the 'weight problem' is really people just making up excuses to hate the LS without any real info. a difference of 30 or 40 lbs is not a big deal

[StuckeyPCS]

Originally Posted by tre

both will be pains int he ass, dont do it. get a ticket mailed to that adress. You not mail it in in 15 days. Get pulled over and hauled off to jail? I wouldnt want to.

LS-1 Will throw off the weight distribution HORRIBLY in the car.

BUT it is up to you.

I hate to disagree with yout, but someone already measured the all aluminum block of an LS-1 motor compared to a ka24de and found the LS1 to be slightly lighter if not only a few more pounds over weight. relocate the battery to the trunk and problem solved.

[ryangreg]

All this talk of swapping a V8 into an S chassis makes me sick to my stomach

[ranger240]

Originally Posted by ryangreg

All this talk of swapping a V8 into an S chassis makes me sick to my stomach

thats what people did to the old 240z's long before s13s came out.. the more i thinka it... it sounds better tehn dealing with alllllllllllll the problems of getting a ka-t to run right... ls1's are admittingly more expensive and would probably cost more to swap in then a e to de swap, but once youve got it in and running it'll surely be a hell of a lot more reliable then any somewhat legal turbo setup out there...

[tre]

Originally Posted by StuckeyPCS

I hate to disagree with yout, but someone already measured the all aluminum block of an LS-1 motor compared to a ka24de and found the LS1 to be slightly lighter if not only a few more pounds over weight. relocate the battery to the trunk and problem solved.

why not keep it a nissan wiht the new aluminum v6/v8 blocks? and TT em?

[Id-]

Originally Posted by tre

both will be pains int he ass, dont do it. get a ticket mailed to that adress. You not mail it in in 15 days. Get pulled over and hauled off to jail? I wouldnt want to.

LS-1 Will throw off the weight distribution HORRIBLY in the car.

BUT it is up to you.

Yeah it will throw it off HORRIBLY on the car. It weighs less than the KA and has the same length and sits lower in the engine bay. Man thats horrible.

Research your facts before you make uninformed comments.

[OMGWTFBBQ]

depends if you want your car to run or not.....
haha jk
i've ridden in both sr and ka-t 240's and liked the ka-t better personally, just felt better and was pretty fast
I'd say it would depend on how you want to use the setup though

[mmdb]

cc4usmc, I've met a handful of guys in SOCAL with SR20 swaps. A few of them either live in fear of getting pulled over, have gotten pulled over and had their car impounded, and/or sold their cars due to these reasons. Largely those who've gotten their car impounded was due to doing stupid things like speeding, racing, etc. to have this happen. Modding a KA and adding a turbo is also illegal, but having an SR is a red flag. It has never qualified to a legal motor to be run on the highway so I highly doubt cops will give you any sort of break if they see it... much much less than than a KA-T in my opinion.

[aznpoopy]

the newer nissan engines haven't been out long enough. i.e. not alot of them on ebay, in junkyards, etc.

[tre]

how about this keep your car registered wherever its at or "home" is and since you're stationed in Cali. Keep your old plates. You'll have no problems whatsoever with "illegal" swap since you're car's not registered in cali.

[ms!3]

man that must be hard for you guys. inspection places dont care about anything here. you could have an sr20 and nobody would know and even if they did they wouldnt care. when you get your car inspected they just scrape the sticker off and put a new one on. and ive never heard of a cop popping your hood to see if your engine is legal or not. but anyways i would go with a Ka-t, lots of torque and a stronger block.

[fliprayzin240sx]

You got PM...just shiet that we do out up in norcali if our home state starts spazzing bout us not being there physically. I got a boy whos cars been registered in 3 states since hes been out of GA cuz GA requires a safety inspection every 2 years. He couldnt be there to get the car inspected so he had to register it in the states that he was stationed. Told him to register it to TN and havent had an issue. $30 every year thru the mail and they dont need to see your car or do they require you to have a TN address

[ManoNegra]

Been driving SR powered cars in Socal for a few years now. I used to drive stupid but since wrecking two of them I have slowed down quite a bit. Never had an issue with cops (knock on wood) but have had them pull next to me on the freeway or tail me for blocks. Everytime something like this happens, I shit bricks. Next car will be a KAT... I have friends in other states aswell, I have to look into that option. But it's true, the SR scene isn't as mellow and chill as it used to be and I'm getting tired of it. If it's not the cops then it's worrying about thieves.

[ManoNegra]

I have a friend that has Arizona plates. Been stopped a couple of times by a cop for speeding (not too much above limit). Once he got away with a warning, the other he got a ticket. Didn't get sweat for the SR though.

[fliprayzin240sx]

They can still pull you over all they want, just no point of them impounding your car since the car is out of their jursidiction. They might give you some BS ticket bout smog and shit, but that wont stick in court cuz duhy...its registered out of state and they cant prove that your car wont pass smog, they cant force you to get it smogged either...