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fodive · 08-01-2002, 04:23 PM

hey all, i was wondering what i should do about my brakeswww.mvpmotorsports.com has a brembo kit for my S13, or i could go with 300ZX TT pads. which do you think would be better for my car.

also, if i got the 300Zx's, id have to get new rims too, right, because i have hubcaps now....let me know, thanks

DrDubbleB · 08-01-2002, 04:45 PM

I think what you mean is 300zx TT calipers...not pads. Anyways, the 300zx calipers are much much much cheaper, so if you are on a budget, go with those. Yes, you would have to get new rims also, stock SE rims on a 95+ 240 would be sufficient and you should be able to find them for relatively cheap.

Brembos, they are gods when it comes to brakes, that's why Ferarri, Ducati, and pretty much every racing team out there uses them, if you have the money, go for it, but you will need a 5-lug conversion and new rims also (on top of the $3,000 brake components).

It all comes down to what you can afford. Do you really want to spend $3k on brakes when you can spend $500 and use the rest toward other upgrades, or do you want the best of the best? Personally, I don't think that you really need the Brembos unless your car is strictly for road racing, but it's your call. I also looked into getting Brembo or Willwood (they don't make a kit...yet), but then I saw the price.  It's really a waste of money when the 300zx TT brakes are more than adequate. Add cross drilled/slotted rotors to that and braided steel brake lines, and you'll stop on a dime.

BlackFox · 08-01-2002, 08:53 PM

Some quality stuff from Endless will work well  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

DrDubbleB · 08-01-2002, 09:13 PM

Yeah, I'm thinking I might go with Endless when I upgrade my brakes, but I'm not sure, it's either that or the 300zx TT upgrade.

tnord · 08-01-2002, 09:21 PM

do the 300zx conversion, it just makes more sense.

sil80 · 08-01-2002, 11:07 PM

$3k - Are you fu*king kidding? Do you have sponsers? Is this a show car? If you cannt say yes to the last two then you would be stupid to get that over priced kit. Put money your money to better areas like coilovers or your engine.
Also I just got my 26mm 300zx calipers and about wet myself when I pulled them out of the box. Those suckers are so freaking big. Just waiting on my EBC GS pads to put them on.

Well good luck and hope you have deep pockets.

fodive · 08-02-2002, 12:28 AM

well...i wasnt think of a big brake kit, supposedly this place has direct bolt on cross drilled rotors, and you can buy pads and calipers to...certainly not 3000 dollars, id go SR for that much $$$

DrDubbleB · 08-02-2002, 12:32 AM

Hrmm...I saw no calipers for sale by themselves...I think you have to get the big brake kit for them.  As for rotors, get them along WITH a brake upgrade (such as 300zx TT calipers).

misnomer · 08-02-2002, 12:34 AM

IIRC, the 26mm Z brakes work fine under the seven spoke s13 alloys.  Unless you're competing, you prolly don't need either upgrade, but the Z brakes are by far the biggest bang for the buck.

DrDubbleB · 08-02-2002, 12:43 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Aug. 01 2002,02:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">IIRC, the 26mm Z brakes work fine under the seven spoke s13 alloys. Unless you're competing, you prolly don't need either upgrade, but the Z brakes are by far the biggest bang for the buck.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I think you're right, I was thinking of the 30mm calipers...

misnomer · 08-02-2002, 11:32 AM

Oooh, just noticed he wrote he had hubcaps. Anybody know if the steelies'll clear the Z rotors and calipers?

uiuc240 · 08-02-2002, 12:15 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Aug. 02 2002,12:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oooh, just noticed he wrote he had hubcaps. Anybody know if the steelies'll clear the Z rotors and calipers?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
no.  none will fit.  except for a donut from a Z.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

this is the reason i had to find OEM alloys for my snow tires on my 89.  yes, that's right, my SR is a daily driver AND i go in the snow and ice without LSD.  it's scary sometimes when the boost hits <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

Eric

HippoSleek · 08-02-2002, 01:19 PM

Why does everyone think Endless is the sheezy?  Endless or z32 - there is NO COMPARISON.  Have any of you ever driven, owned, or compared it?  I would recommend five different pads at different levels - each of which is about 1/2 the cost of a similarly situated Endless.

uiuc240 · 08-02-2002, 01:55 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Aug. 02 2002,2:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why does everyone think Endless is the sheezy? Endless or z32 - there is NO COMPARISON. Have any of you ever driven, owned, or compared it? I would recommend five different pads at different levels - each of which is about 1/2 the cost of a similarly situated Endless.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
sheezy.  that was great.  i was laughing for like a whole entire minute.  good stuff.  thanks Mark.

Eric <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

08-01-2002, 04:23 PM	#1
fodive Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Columbia, SC Age: 40 Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hey all, i was wondering what i should do about my brakeswww.mvpmotorsports.com has a brembo kit for my S13, or i could go with 300ZX TT pads. which do you think would be better for my car. also, if i got the 300Zx's, id have to get new rims too, right, because i have hubcaps now....let me know, thanks __________________ roots.

08-01-2002, 08:53 PM	#3
BlackFox Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 534 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Some quality stuff from Endless will work well  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ Current Cars: 1976 Mercedes Benz 300D 1995 240sx SE aka Kate (winner: Best Stock S14 @ 2002 National Convention) http://community.webshots.com/user/jeff976cal If you're interested in parts email me [email protected]

08-01-2002, 11:07 PM	#6
sil80 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	$3k - Are you fu*king kidding? Do you have sponsers? Is this a show car? If you cannt say yes to the last two then you would be stupid to get that over priced kit. Put money your money to better areas like coilovers or your engine. Also I just got my 26mm 300zx calipers and about wet myself when I pulled them out of the box. Those suckers are so freaking big. Just waiting on my EBC GS pads to put them on. Well good luck and hope you have deep pockets. __________________ Five degrees of separation - from you and your license 91 240sx SE

08-02-2002, 12:28 AM	#7
fodive Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Columbia, SC Age: 40 Posts: 548 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well...i wasnt think of a big brake kit, supposedly this place has direct bolt on cross drilled rotors, and you can buy pads and calipers to...certainly not 3000 dollars, id go SR for that much $$$ __________________ roots.

08-02-2002, 12:34 AM	#9
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	IIRC, the 26mm Z brakes work fine under the seven spoke s13 alloys.  Unless you're competing, you prolly don't need either upgrade, but the Z brakes are by far the biggest bang for the buck. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

08-01-2002, 04:45 PM	#2
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think what you mean is 300zx TT calipers...not pads. Anyways, the 300zx calipers are much much much cheaper, so if you are on a budget, go with those. Yes, you would have to get new rims also, stock SE rims on a 95+ 240 would be sufficient and you should be able to find them for relatively cheap. Brembos, they are gods when it comes to brakes, that's why Ferarri, Ducati, and pretty much every racing team out there uses them, if you have the money, go for it, but you will need a 5-lug conversion and new rims also (on top of the $3,000 brake components). It all comes down to what you can afford. Do you really want to spend $3k on brakes when you can spend $500 and use the rest toward other upgrades, or do you want the best of the best? Personally, I don't think that you really need the Brembos unless your car is strictly for road racing, but it's your call. I also looked into getting Brembo or Willwood (they don't make a kit...yet), but then I saw the price.  It's really a waste of money when the 300zx TT brakes are more than adequate. Add cross drilled/slotted rotors to that and braided steel brake lines, and you'll stop on a dime.

08-01-2002, 09:13 PM	#4
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, I'm thinking I might go with Endless when I upgrade my brakes, but I'm not sure, it's either that or the 300zx TT upgrade.

08-01-2002, 09:21 PM	#5
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	do the 300zx conversion, it just makes more sense.

08-02-2002, 12:32 AM	#8
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hrmm...I saw no calipers for sale by themselves...I think you have to get the big brake kit for them.  As for rotors, get them along WITH a brake upgrade (such as 300zx TT calipers).

08-02-2002, 12:43 AM	#10
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Aug. 01 2002,02:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">IIRC, the 26mm Z brakes work fine under the seven spoke s13 alloys. Unless you're competing, you prolly don't need either upgrade, but the Z brakes are by far the biggest bang for the buck.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I think you're right, I was thinking of the 30mm calipers...

08-02-2002, 11:32 AM	#11
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oooh, just noticed he wrote he had hubcaps. Anybody know if the steelies'll clear the Z rotors and calipers? __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

08-02-2002, 12:15 PM	#12
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (misnomer @ Aug. 02 2002,12:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oooh, just noticed he wrote he had hubcaps. Anybody know if the steelies'll clear the Z rotors and calipers?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> no.  none will fit.  except for a donut from a Z.   <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'> this is the reason i had to find OEM alloys for my snow tires on my 89.  yes, that's right, my SR is a daily driver AND i go in the snow and ice without LSD.  it's scary sometimes when the boost hits <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> Eric __________________ 2002 Mazda Protege5 1989 S13 w/SR20DET (sold)

08-02-2002, 01:19 PM	#13
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why does everyone think Endless is the sheezy?  Endless or z32 - there is NO COMPARISON.  Have any of you ever driven, owned, or compared it?  I would recommend five different pads at different levels - each of which is about 1/2 the cost of a similarly situated Endless.

08-02-2002, 01:55 PM	#14
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Aug. 02 2002,2:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why does everyone think Endless is the sheezy? Endless or z32 - there is NO COMPARISON. Have any of you ever driven, owned, or compared it? I would recommend five different pads at different levels - each of which is about 1/2 the cost of a similarly situated Endless.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> sheezy.  that was great.  i was laughing for like a whole entire minute.  good stuff.  thanks Mark. Eric <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 2002 Mazda Protege5 1989 S13 w/SR20DET (sold)

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