Rom Tune ?

[Rockogtr]

anyone ever heard of E-MANCE rom tunes??? saw it on ebay didnt know if it was a 300$ scam or if it was legit

check it out let me know what u think

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX...QQcmdZViewItem

[timtiminy]

I was wondering this as well. lookslike they usea daughter board with a 2 chip setup. wondering if it is anything like jwt or enthalapy?

[Rockogtr]

what do u think of the a/f ratio timtimny 12.5 to lean or think its straight there i always was under the impression 12 was the limit...

[lazierhobo]

nothing wrong with 12.5
thats still pretty conservative
just dont want to be much higher than 13 in high boost

[street240]

So has anyone used this company?

[s13gold]

i doubt it... but save up a couple more hundred bux for jwt or enthalpy.
they're respectable and highly reputable. you get what you pay for.

the difference is huge. to blowup or to not blowup your motor is the question.

check his reputation and ask about references.
Customer service is key, jwt and enthalpy has made great remarks around.


if someone credible can vouch for that tuner, maybe i can be persuade, but until then be careful.

[eastcoastS14]

^^ yeah i agree 100% Engine management is definitely NOT the area to skimp on....you really do get what you pay for RS enthalpy is only $200 more so id stay with the test proven route

BTW where in MA are you??

[Rockogtr]

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14

BTW where in MA are you??

Leominster its about 10 min from worcester, how bout u ?

[timtiminy]

okay I wrote them an email and they said if i send in my ecu they can do the chip install and tune for $150 plus shipping and about 3 days turn around. not too bad. it mentions on their auction page that an ex nissan programing engineer is the one who is doing the programming. Still dont know if anyone has some first hand experience with this, that is what i would like to see.

[spool_sample]

You can buy ROM tunes on eBay now? The end is near...

+1 for JWT or Enthalpy.

[eastcoastS14]

^^ ooh nice yeah im from medford

[Inland180]

is someone going to try them out?

[s13gold]

^^^that right there is the million dollar question. or at least the price of your motor.

[timtiminy]

$150 in comparison to $500 for an enthalapy tune is quite the price difference. He said turn around time is 1-2 days and they can tune for whatever you have, I sent him a list of all my mods that I will be running on once i get my swap, he just said yeah that'll be $150. I asked him if it could be further tuned and he replied...if you have a safc, you can fine tune on the dyno. you really wont need to, you will have more performance out of the box. but if you'd like, you can dyno it.

the cost for this setup is $150.00 + 15.00 shipping
His email is: [email protected] and his name is Jason
someone should see if its wort it. I would, but all i have is the computer, no motor to plug it into haha. kind of working backwards since i'm poor and i'm piecing things together little by little picking up deals where i find them.
To me it may be worth it if they are basically using the same maps as enthalapy or jwt even if it is just a knockoff tune it should work just as good as the version coppied from. I guess we'll all have to wait and see.
I figure i could get a wideband with the money i would save if i went this route.

[Rockogtr]

i have an extra 62 ecu so i might buy the chip and put it in one and go to the dyno see how it dose ive read some of the feed back and the KA-T's said they made good power

[johngriff]

lol @ 12.5/1 being safe for pump.

Good Luck.

[street240]

Originally Posted by Rockogtr

i have an extra 62 ecu so i might buy the chip and put it in one and go to the dyno see how it dose ive read some of the feed back and the KA-T's said they made good power

That would be a good idea. Just because it's cheap doesnt mean its a pos. But let's be honest in most cases it does. But your info from your extra ecu would be apprecieated.

[onemotion]

go to best1tunning.com his tunes are great.

[street240]

Originally Posted by hypnotizedlines

go to best1tunning.com his tunes are great.

Have you gotten a rom tune from there? If so, what was the tune?

[Rockogtr]

Originally Posted by hypnotizedlines

go to best1tunning.com his tunes are great.

the site dosnt come up

[statik]

Originally Posted by johngriff

lol @ 12.5/1 being safe for pump.

Good Luck.

wow seriously, 12.5? good luck with purchasing your new motor

[cotbu]

Originally Posted by johngriff

lol @ 12.5/1 being safe for pump.

Good Luck.

Originally Posted by statik

wow seriously, 12.5? good luck with purchasing your new motor

If, this is the best you guys can come up with well....
Why not ask the guy to tune for 11.5 or whatever you feel is safe?
Since, there's nothing else that can go wrong, if you have good a/f's

[smelly240]

im at 11.2:1 on pump

screw 12.5 - thats gay

[sicarius82]

Originally Posted by Rockogtr

the site dosnt come up

believe it's www.best1tuning.com

[s13rookie]

Originally Posted by timtiminy

. I would, but all i have is the computer, no motor to plug it into haha. kind of working backwards since i'm poor and i'm piecing things together little by little picking up deals where i find them.
.

The tune should be the last thing you do. If you are still looking for deals on parts you should hold off. it would suck to have to pass up a good deal on a part thats slightly diff. or have to get retuned.

[johngriff]

Originally Posted by cotbu

If, this is the best you guys can come up with well....
Why not ask the guy to tune for 11.5 or whatever you feel is safe?
Since, there's nothing else that can go wrong, if you have good a/f's

Ok, really it isnt me just talking trash to talk trash. Advertising that he tunes turbo cars to that AF/r is basically screaming from the mountain top that he does not know what he is talking about.

I remember in the 90's, someone put together this really hot little Map for the b16. I knew the guy who got it done at the dyno, i was there.

A couple months later, he went to another shop around here, and they asked what was up with his car. They had a rom burner, and he sold them a copy of his rom for $25.

About a year later, suddenly everyone and their mom has a "Mugen stage III" rom tune, from this shop, and they got ripped off, and everyone got ripped off.

I am sure, that this guy just ganked some RS Enthalpy Maps or some JWT maps, any one who cannot accurately advertise themselves (dangerous af/r for turbo) is obviously cutting corners.

12.5/1 is good for N/A so he probably just copy/paste the text from another ad.

[koukie180]

I wouldn't say this rom tune is shady or anything. anyone with a eeprom/flash burner and daugtherboard can easily tune their own cars.

the offer seems good and what they offer are the basics of rom tuning (not much advanced). however, from my experience, that daughterboard quality is inferior to many other daughterboards. it doesn't even have moisture protective coat and the circuit board is of cheap materials. cheap prices lack quality in electronic components such as capacitors, resistors, or eeprom/flash chips. you definitely do not want your daughterboard to fry on you when you are road racing.

on the otherhand you can't go wrong with jwt or enthalpy. they've got too much reputation to back them up.

maybe for 150, i can get it and dump the rom and see what they did (i wouldn't be surprised if little or no modifications were done like many rom scams out there). btw even if they install a daughterboard on your 62/E5 you can reverse the effects very easily so no big deal.

[street240]

I am contacting the seller right now to find out what his method is and if he is willing to defend hs product to Zilvia. If you can survive on Zilvia-You can survive anywhere.

[s13gold]

Originally Posted by timtiminy

$150 in comparison to $500 for an enthalapy tune is quite the price difference. He said turn around time is 1-2 days and they can tune for whatever you have, I sent him a list of all my mods that I will be running on once i get my swap, he just said yeah that'll be $150. I asked him if it could be further tuned and he replied...if you have a safc, you can fine tune on the dyno. you really wont need to, you will have more performance out of the box. but if you'd like, you can dyno it.

the cost for this setup is $150.00 + 15.00 shipping
His email is: [email protected] and his name is Jason
someone should see if its wort it. I would, but all i have is the computer, no motor to plug it into haha. kind of working backwards since i'm poor and i'm piecing things together little by little picking up deals where i find them.
To me it may be worth it if they are basically using the same maps as enthalapy or jwt even if it is just a knockoff tune it should work just as good as the version coppied from. I guess we'll all have to wait and see.
I figure i could get a wideband with the money i would save if i went this route.

what is your ecu tuned for......

[timtiminy]

I plan on using this ecu for a sr20det swapped 240sx with the following modifications:

Z32 MAF
S15 turbo (gt28r ballbearing) 20psi max
550cc sidefeed injectors
Front mount intercooler
Greddy intake manifold with s13 60mm throttle body
silkroad exhaust manifold
3" o2 elbow
3" downpipe
3" catalytic converter
3" non resrictive catback exhaust
ngk iridium spark plugs
Brian Crower stage 2 camshafts

That is the list of the planned mods I sent him. He says to include everything done to the motor so i figure he has to be able to do some theoretical tuning if he even asks for it. I wrote a few guys that bought his stuff on ebay and am awaiting resposes to see how it did. I did get one response, here it is: Well, first he (Jason is who i worked with) is a very reliable and knowledgable seller. He knows his crap about tuning. Sounds like he has a tuning shop in Cali somewhere and they do Nissan and Mitsu all day. The ecu worked good for a couple weeks then it started getting funky and the car was going into limp mode. I had a race event coming up very shortly after this happened and Jason sent me a new daughter board with new chips (priority) on it to see if that would resolve the problem for free! Well, sad to say it didnt fix the problem. I had to restart my car every time it would get stupid and it would sometimes fix it. I sent the entire ecu and 2 daughterboards back to him again this last monday and he found that one of the pins was loose. Solder gave way or something, but he fixed it, again no charge. It should be here on monday and hopefully everything runs good. The ecu does make a difference after the tune. Makes much better low end power and high end definitely pulls harder. Car does run a tad richer than normal, go figure. Its a performance tune. It have a redtop, with fmic, 255 lph fuel pump, stock t-25 at 15 psi, stock injectors, atmospheric bov, header,and 93 octane. He tunes individually for all this crap. Little bit more timing cause of the 93 octane and makes it so car doesnt have rich condition between shifts. Speed limiter is also gone. Rev limiter is at 7500. The soldering mishap was a simple mistake. The ecu does really make a performance difference and Jason is very trustworthy and very helpfull if you have problems, obviously. I believe i paid around $120-130 for mine. Depending on the tune and where you live, costs will probly differ a little. I had a 16 bit ecu and needed the daughterboard with 2 chips. I sent it to him to solder it all up for me. He did say prices were going up soon when i purchased it from him though. I would say if you are running the stock turbo, do it. If you have a different turbo, you probly want a dyno tune.

hopefully street240 can get some good info. sounds pretty good though, so who's first to try in for all of Zilvia.net??