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F3600 · 08-18-2002, 03:49 PM

Ok here the situation

im short on money ... sooo i decided to have a guys make a straight pipe for my car (no cat) and he gave me (dont laugh) a CHerry bomb Turbo muffler (NOOoo ) well now my car sound like a pickup tuned by RiceCrewRacingteam. ...???

im shy to drive my car ...
the straight pipe is for a temporary fix because i need my car right now but i dont have the money for a OEM exhaust system almost 700$ (canadian)

anyway i need a good quiet muffler.. anybody have a tip on what i should buy..

please dont flame me because i took out the cat .. i need serious advice for a muffler

Thx
Ps: sorry for my bad english
Fred <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

phatsx · 08-18-2002, 07:51 PM

whats the most you can spend?  ebay may have something that would work for you.

Kreator · 08-18-2002, 08:39 PM

Basic ideas.
1. The bigger the tip, the ricier the sound
2. the smaller the canister that actually lowers the sound, the louder your car is
3. All the companies that make shiney mufflers (apexi, obx...) are more conserned with flow than loudnes... so i wouldn't be getin one of those...

I'd look for something resembling the stock muffler

adey · 08-19-2002, 05:02 AM

Uhhh I'm going to have to disagree w/ Kreator here... I don't think OBX is all that interested in flow characteristics of their mufflers; they're just interested in making shiny parts at low cost. That generally goes against 'the flow' of your argument there... ha. ha. (get the pun?)  never mind.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Apex, HKS, Trust and Blitz, on the other hand, take all aspects into account, INCLUDING sound. I am led to believe that they put a substantial amount of money (R&D) into sound tuning their exhaust systems whereas OBX, APC and Arospeed probably don't.

240 2NR · 08-19-2002, 09:18 AM

OD a search or go back 5-10 pages.  This thread came up just a week or two ago.  In general power gains and quiet don't belong in the smae senetence when looking at exhausts.  Elimination of the cat is good for a few decibles too.  Why did you remove it?  Keeping a functional cat is free, now you'll have to buy a new one, the definition of not saving money.

Kreator · 08-19-2002, 10:03 AM

<!--QuoteBegin--adey+Aug. 19 2002,06<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Aug. 19 2002,06<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Uhhh I'm going to have to disagree w/ Kreator here... I don't think OBX is all that interested in flow characteristics of their mufflers; they're just interested in making shiny parts at low cost. That generally goes against 'the flow' of your argument there... ha. ha. (get the pun?) never mind. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>
Apex, HKS, Trust and Blitz, on the other hand, take all aspects into account, INCLUDING sound. I am led to believe that they put a substantial amount of money (R&D) into sound tuning their exhaust systems whereas OBX, APC and Arospeed probably don't.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Hmm maybe. But honestly i haven't found many companies that sell just mufflers except OBX and reactive(or somthing). Apexi got like 2-3 mufflers total. same with 5zigen.

Honestly, when i'm thinking of mufflers, i'm thinking the usual mufflers you see on imports versus the flowmaster/dynomax/magnoflow ones. I've seen both types. If you look inside the import muffler, it's just a straight running pipe through from inlet to outlet. If not for the holes, it'd be as free flowing as a straight pipe. dynomax on the other hand has a z type muffler, where the exhaust trevels in a z-like fasion. Now those things really lower the sound. Cost performance though. Anyways, i'm getting myself an obx muffler ($35 w/ shipping if everything works out) I'll tell you what i think. If it's a piece of crap, i won't loose much <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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P.S. honestly, i think that OBX is at a higher level than APC. I mean I don't see there decals on every mexican car. Plus they got some decent stuff like short shifters and stbs.

F3600 · 08-19-2002, 11:16 AM

i removed my cat because all my system exhaust was Rusted leaking everywhere
and my muffler just falled when i was driving...

i needed my car to be *functional* with *Low cost*... because right now i dont have the fund to have a new complete *legal* Exhaust

but i want to find a quiet muffler to do the Job its only Temporary fix ..  

Fred

MyFirst240SX · 08-19-2002, 09:04 PM

my N1 style muffler i got off ebay for around 70 bucks shipped workeds good.   Doesn't sound to bad, not very loud but i didn't want a fart can i just wanted a little more aggresiive.
pacesetter offers a almost full piping kit for 130 something i think, just weld on a N1 style or soemthing a little quiter and you ahve a newere exhaust system
sean

08-18-2002, 07:51 PM	#2
phatsx Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2002 Location: NC Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whats the most you can spend?  ebay may have something that would work for you. __________________ Nsport turbo kit, JWT ecu, JWT fuel rail, MSD 72lb injectors, Cobra MAF,SPEC clutch, KYB agx shocks, Eibach Pro springs,Apexi GT Spec exhaust, 18x8 Konig flight wheels, BFG KDW 265/35/18 (rear) Dunlop fm901 225/40/18 (front), indash tv and dvd player with ps2 and some more stuff that I probally can't remember 1/4 Mile:13.9 @ 105 / 7lbs of boost w/o JWT mods http://www.eframes.com/default.asp?g...bum=38203.2910

08-18-2002, 08:39 PM	#3
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Basic ideas. 1. The bigger the tip, the ricier the sound 2. the smaller the canister that actually lowers the sound, the louder your car is 3. All the companies that make shiney mufflers (apexi, obx...) are more conserned with flow than loudnes... so i wouldn't be getin one of those... I'd look for something resembling the stock muffler __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

08-19-2002, 05:02 AM	#4
adey Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 3,072 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Uhhh I'm going to have to disagree w/ Kreator here... I don't think OBX is all that interested in flow characteristics of their mufflers; they're just interested in making shiny parts at low cost. That generally goes against 'the flow' of your argument there... ha. ha. (get the pun?)  never mind.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Apex, HKS, Trust and Blitz, on the other hand, take all aspects into account, INCLUDING sound. I am led to believe that they put a substantial amount of money (R&D) into sound tuning their exhaust systems whereas OBX, APC and Arospeed probably don't. __________________ Instagram: @SX180HKG

08-19-2002, 09:18 AM	#5
240 2NR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OD a search or go back 5-10 pages.  This thread came up just a week or two ago.  In general power gains and quiet don't belong in the smae senetence when looking at exhausts.  Elimination of the cat is good for a few decibles too.  Why did you remove it?  Keeping a functional cat is free, now you'll have to buy a new one, the definition of not saving money. __________________ Steve 93 240sx FB currently very clean and for sale

08-19-2002, 10:03 AM	#6
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 41 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<!--QuoteBegin--adey+Aug. 19 2002,06<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (adey @ Aug. 19 2002,06<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Uhhh I'm going to have to disagree w/ Kreator here... I don't think OBX is all that interested in flow characteristics of their mufflers; they're just interested in making shiny parts at low cost. That generally goes against 'the flow' of your argument there... ha. ha. (get the pun?) never mind. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Apex, HKS, Trust and Blitz, on the other hand, take all aspects into account, INCLUDING sound. I am led to believe that they put a substantial amount of money (R&D) into sound tuning their exhaust systems whereas OBX, APC and Arospeed probably don't.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Hmm maybe. But honestly i haven't found many companies that sell just mufflers except OBX and reactive(or somthing). Apexi got like 2-3 mufflers total. same with 5zigen. Honestly, when i'm thinking of mufflers, i'm thinking the usual mufflers you see on imports versus the flowmaster/dynomax/magnoflow ones. I've seen both types. If you look inside the import muffler, it's just a straight running pipe through from inlet to outlet. If not for the holes, it'd be as free flowing as a straight pipe. dynomax on the other hand has a z type muffler, where the exhaust trevels in a z-like fasion. Now those things really lower the sound. Cost performance though. Anyways, i'm getting myself an obx muffler ($35 w/ shipping if everything works out) I'll tell you what i think. If it's a piece of crap, i won't loose much <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> P.S. honestly, i think that OBX is at a higher level than APC. I mean I don't see there decals on every mexican car. Plus they got some decent stuff like short shifters and stbs. __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

08-18-2002, 03:49 PM	#1
F3600 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok here the situation im short on money ... sooo i decided to have a guys make a straight pipe for my car (no cat) and he gave me (dont laugh) a CHerry bomb Turbo muffler (NOOoo ) well now my car sound like a pickup tuned by RiceCrewRacingteam. ...??? im shy to drive my car ... the straight pipe is for a temporary fix because i need my car right now but i dont have the money for a OEM exhaust system almost 700$ (canadian) anyway i need a good quiet muffler.. anybody have a tip on what i should buy.. please dont flame me because i took out the cat .. i need serious advice for a muffler Thx Ps: sorry for my bad english Fred <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':blush:'>

08-19-2002, 11:16 AM	#7
F3600 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i removed my cat because all my system exhaust was Rusted leaking everywhere and my muffler just falled when i was driving... i needed my car to be functional with Low cost... because right now i dont have the fund to have a new complete legal Exhaust but i want to find a quiet muffler to do the Job its only Temporary fix ..   Fred

08-19-2002, 09:04 PM	#8
MyFirst240SX Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 599 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my N1 style muffler i got off ebay for around 70 bucks shipped workeds good.   Doesn't sound to bad, not very loud but i didn't want a fart can i just wanted a little more aggresiive. pacesetter offers a almost full piping kit for 130 something i think, just weld on a N1 style or soemthing a little quiter and you ahve a newere exhaust system sean __________________ It is better to drive a Slow car fast than to drive a fast Car slow! '89 FastBack 5spd: Intake/Exhaust,Strut Bars and JL15. '90 Parts car/Some day drag car.

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