Why SHOULDN'T i slot my coilovers?

[gotta240]

Is there any reason why one should NOT slot the TOP spindle mount on front s14 coilovers to gain more tire/spring clearance? Unfortunately the apexi coilovers BARELY rub my tire at the moment. I am trying to fit a 10mm wider tire so they will rub badly...

Can i just slot the inside of the top spindle hole to fix this? Any handling side-effects(after its all alligned obviously)

[s14xman]

you should prob just go for a small spacer

[gotta240]

Cant. I am already running a 7.5 mm spacer and i am dangerously close to my fender as it is... I have only mm's to spare, therefore i may even raise it a little for the wider tires i'm trying to put on.

[projectRDM]

If you do, just make sure to use a large enough washer to secure it. No matter how tight you get the bolt it can 'walk', allowing the strut portion to change position under load.

[ms!3]

Originally Posted by gotta240

Cant. I am already running a 7.5 mm spacer and i am dangerously close to my fender as it is... I have only mm's to spare, therefore i may even raise it a little for the wider tires i'm trying to put on.

wtf dangerously? pull that sheet.

[Nizzan4u2nv]

even if you slot them and pull them out. or if you use a spacer. youll still have the same fender clearance issue (as far as what you consider fender clearance)

[Silvia_S13]

i'd jus pull ur fender a tad, space it a tad, or space it and run more camber. why are u trying to run such a fat tire in the front?

[gotta240]

i'm not concerned with fender clearance as i'm clear right now. I am concerned with shock/tire clearance, hence the question. Thanks for the replies....

I think i'll slot it and make something to hold the washer in places...Like etch the shock or something....

Why am i trying to go from a 255 to 265 in front? More grip....

[Silvia_S13]

more grip? run a sticker tire and less camber.

i'd never "slot" my coilovers. i'd rather replace a 20dlr fender i rolled wrong then replace some coilovers i decided to go dumb on.

run as fat a tire u want, run a bigger spacer, and pull/roll/hammer the fender.

jmo

[opponheimer]

Do you have a picture to explain what you're trying to do? What do you mean by Slot your coilovers? Sorry, I may run into the same problem.

[lok]

Can you just get a camber bolt and achieve the same thing.

If I understand correctly you slot the coilover so the upper bolt can move and push the spindle out correct?

A camber bolt should do this and be safererer

[projectRDM]

Originally Posted by lok

Can you just get a camber bolt and achieve the same thing.

If I understand correctly you slot the coilover so the upper bolt can move and push the spindle out correct?

A camber bolt should do this and be safererer

That only works to add camber using the OE hole, slotting it increasing the amount of available camber. Plus, nearly every eccentric bolt I've seen like above are pure shit that slip or seize into place. I've broken a lot of them before just trying to loosen them. OE is best.

[aznpoopy]

theres no reason not to as long as you use a washer
its perfectly safe, and comes standard on at least one well known coilover

i.e.
silkroads come with a eccentric top spindle mount with a bracket that supports a square washer with an off center hole in it, giving you four camber settings available from that washer

[chmercer]

that will screw up your scrub iirc

stop being queer and space your weak offset wheels that hit your coilover

[lok]

All great solutions.

[pr0ject TRUENO]

Spacer and camber.

[Silvia_S13]

if you can't get enough grip with a 255 in the front, i think ur problem is elsewhere. and who runs 255's up front anyway.

[MomentumGT]

Originally Posted by Silvia_S13

if you can't get enough grip with a 255 in the front, i think ur problem is elsewhere. and who runs 255's up front anyway.

Have 255/40/17 RA1's all the way around shaved. On the street its way excessive but if he's running on the street other issues should be addressed before "band-aiding" the problem with bigger tires so I agree with you there, but for the track we're thinking of going wider 275's up front with a 305 in the rear must go wide body tho'.

-Jon

[backroadtouge]

mabey post up a pic of the car, even though it seems to me the answer has been answered.

[gotta240]

Chmercer- how is 9.5+17 a "pussy" offset? No, its not "baller"(meaning retarded and only for flash appeal). I DO NOT want overfenders/pulled fenders. Car has fresh paint and i'm trying to maintain a DECENT LOOKING, STOCK BODIED car. (fender lips rolled flat obviously)

Silkroads arent the only ones with slotted holes either... Even k-sports have them..

To those who don't understand why so wide... You've never road raced on a real track...have you? I have lots of grip with the 255(bfg KDW)...but the car still pushes just a little with my 275's in the rear...

Thanks for the serious answers as well. I am tempted to try the eccentric bolts, but as r240na stated, they are crappy and kinda scare me for track use.

i'll be slotting them soon. Anyone have ideas to prevent the nut/washer from slipping?

[yokotas13]

Originally Posted by gotta240

Chmercer- how is 9.5+17 a "pussy" offset? No, its not "baller"(meaning retarded and only for flash appeal). I DO NOT want overfenders/pulled fenders. Car has fresh paint and i'm trying to maintain a DECENT LOOKING, STOCK BODIED car. (fender lips rolled flat obviously)

Silkroads arent the only ones with slotted holes either... Even k-sports have them..

To those who don't understand why so wide... You've never road raced on a real track...have you? I have lots of grip with the 255(bfg KDW)...but the car still pushes just a little with my 275's in the rear...

Thanks for the serious answers as well. I am tempted to try the eccentric bolts, but as r240na stated, they are crappy and kinda scare me for track use.

i'll be slotting them soon. Anyone have ideas to prevent the nut/washer from slipping?

I have, in the states and in japan

A larger tire that big, is just a bandaid for yuo not being able to drive

[DOOK]

Originally Posted by yokotas13

I have, in the states and in japan

A larger tire that big, is just a bandaid for yuo not being able to drive

now that is some funny shit right there

[aznpoopy]

put some strips of metal on there to act as a bracket for the washer

done

[gotta240]

Thanks for the suggestion azn, but not quite following...

Even if i put strips on the top and bottom of the nut, it will still slide along the eccentric part... Or do you mean to get it to where i want, then perm. lock it in place with the strips? that may not be a bad idea...

[thejapino]

After you slot it and get the car aligned to spec, put a small spot weld on a washer and the bracket. Thats how the Datsun guys keep their rear end settings after going with a penultimate rear subframe!

[projectRDM]

Originally Posted by thejapino

After you slot it and get the car aligned to spec, put a small spot weld on a washer and the bracket. Thats how the Datsun guys keep their rear end settings after going with a penultimate rear subframe!

Bingo. Best solution out there, set it, tack it, and move on. If you ever need to you can easily remove the bolt but the washer will stay in place, allowing for removal without resetting the camber.

[aznpoopy]

Originally Posted by gotta240

Thanks for the suggestion azn, but not quite following...

Even if i put strips on the top and bottom of the nut, it will still slide along the eccentric part... Or do you mean to get it to where i want, then perm. lock it in place with the strips? that may not be a bad idea...

haha sorry for not being clear

i basically mean copying the silkroad set up

the washer is actually square
theres a bracket on the spindle mount. the washer fits snug in the bracket
the bracket is litte more than two strips of metal

the bracket keeps the washer from moving or rotating
the washer keeps the bolt from moving out of position

i like the spotweld idea too though
much easier

[all stock]

to be honest, running eccentric (camber) bolts are great ideas. all the race teams in SCCA Improved Touring do this. If it's good enough for me and them, it's good enough for you.

unless you are actively drifting all the time, i can't imagine why this solution isn't good enough for you. but then again, if you are drifting actively, you should be checking your suspension quite often.

All you need is a smaller diameter grade 12 bolt. since you're retaining the oe lower perch, the bolts shouldn't 'walk' at all.

[articdragon192]

I ran a quality eccentric bolt at the track and had no prblems whatsoever. The settings never changed and such.

[xxxjovaxxx]

dude i agree with everyones suggestions. pull your fenders and if need be, repainting the fenders will probably be cheaper than buying new front coilovers AND then having to pull and paint your fenders.

also, is your front camber straight or does it need attention? make sure everything is aligned to spec first, ya know??