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robtheflyer · 09-08-2007, 01:00 PM

I'm getting ready to swap a sr20 into my 96' s14, and I'm wanting some general opinions on whether the VTC and the t28 in the s14sr is worth it, or would I be better off with a blacktop s13 sr and spending the extra money on turbo upgrades an other stuff. Car will be a daily driver with occasional track time. Thanks for your opinion.

Full-Lock · 09-08-2007, 01:02 PM

i would definatly spend the extra bit of cash and get the s14 sr. i think with the vtc and t28 it is worth the extra money in the long run.

mr_240sx · 09-08-2007, 01:08 PM

i would honestly say to get s14sr.... i know i went with it for my s13 coupe and im sure glad i did!

hung12848 · 09-08-2007, 01:12 PM

S14 !!! but you live in TX for sure you need A/C

robtheflyer · 09-08-2007, 01:15 PM

no doubt I need A/C it's hot like crazy here, I had to repair my A/C on the KA a while back, two weeks without AC was insane! is there a problem with keeping AC? I thought the KA compressor would work? Just needed to bolt up the bracket?

mr_240sx · 09-08-2007, 02:11 PM

well i have an s14sr ac compressor if anyone wants it.

sblack13 · 09-08-2007, 02:45 PM

s13 sr in a s14, yuck nuff said. Do it nice not ghetto.
Do it, and have no regrets

garagelu · 09-08-2007, 02:50 PM

it depends what your budget allows for. If you have the money get the s14 sr, you will be happier with it in the long run. I dont think the extra cost is in the VTC. Its more in the turbo. A s14 turbo is worth about 400-500 dollars where a s13 turbo is worth about 100-150 dollars. So thats where the extra cost comes in.

The good thing about s13 engines are the low cost, parts availability, and replacement cost is low also. Not say that s14 parts are hard to find, just that s13 stuff is everywhere and cheap also.

CKAMC · 09-08-2007, 03:01 PM

S14 into S14 because its so simple first off *harness*

your going to need to get custom lines if you want a/c anyways

VTC is great.

Nissan realized their mistake with the t25 so thats why they gave you a t28... which isnt bad for a while

less likely to be abused motor (younger than a s13 of course but I did say LESS LIKELY)

dont skimp out, do it correctly, get the s14 sr

robtheflyer · 09-08-2007, 04:13 PM

Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate all the opinions and experience, you said that I'll need custom AC lines? I read on the Heavy throttle FAQ and if I remember the lines bolt right up, maybe a little off but not any custom work... is this info incorrect?

CKAMC · 09-08-2007, 04:59 PM

For the most part they are a little off, most like to get new lines simply to fit the new setup as they wish/please

I have seen both people complain about stock KA lines and some getting them to work with no problem. Its been a while since I have seen a A/C 240 that isnt KA powered.

MADE · 09-08-2007, 08:59 PM

My s14SR used the same A/C lines with KA compressor until the bolt broke holding the L/P hose to the compressor. Soon as I get a new bolt back on it will continue to work like new. The only difference I noticed is the fan speed but cools the same.

Koopa Troopa · 09-09-2007, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKAMC

VTC is great.

Nissan realized their mistake with the t25 so thats why they gave you a t28... which isnt bad for a while

less likely to be abused motor (younger than a s13 of course but I did say LESS LIKELY)

dont skimp out, do it correctly, get the s14 sr

Considering the first year of the S14 was 1993 an S14 SR is not always newer than a 180. All the reasons of getting an S14 SR is going to be replaced anyways so why fork out the extra cash?

T28, getting replaced
VTC, gay and adjustable gears won't let you use it anyways.

CKAMC · 09-09-2007, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa

Considering the first year of the S14 was 1993 an S14 SR is not always newer than a 180. All the reasons of getting an S14 SR is going to be replaced anyways so why fork out the extra cash?

T28, getting replaced
VTC, gay and adjustable gears won't let you use it anyways.

yeah blacktop s13's are just as new as some s14's or newer... my comparison was with redtops but I should have been specific...

T28... yeah you will replace it later on but for some of us 3k on a motor is already a strain for out wallet

VTC Gay? Cant adjust the gears!?!?!? I dont know what your talking about but there are some published dyno's/articles out there that show when used properly it can adjust your power curve to be more responsive (because power on sets earlier).... but yeah not everyone sets up their car for that, just a nice option to learn/mess with.

I wish I could be like you koopa

Koopa Troopa · 09-09-2007, 08:23 AM

I'm saying adjustable cam gears won't let you use VTC. So once you dip into cams that goes out the window too.

I didn't notice any difference going from VTC to Tomei 270's and not having VTC.

I'd just get a redtop, rebuild it properly and build it from there but what do I know? I've never touched an SR before....

CMKAC - Drive an SR with some balls and I'm sure you'll change your mind on gay shit like VTC and don't try to make some kind of retort stating that said SR with balls might have a better balanced power curve with VTC because there's no helping some turbo's.

09-08-2007, 01:00 PM	#1
robtheflyer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Killeen, TX Age: 47 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	opinion s14sr vs. blacktop s13 I'm getting ready to swap a sr20 into my 96' s14, and I'm wanting some general opinions on whether the VTC and the t28 in the s14sr is worth it, or would I be better off with a blacktop s13 sr and spending the extra money on turbo upgrades an other stuff. Car will be a daily driver with occasional track time. Thanks for your opinion.

09-08-2007, 01:02 PM	#2
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i would definatly spend the extra bit of cash and get the s14 sr. i think with the vtc and t28 it is worth the extra money in the long run. __________________

09-08-2007, 03:01 PM	#9
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S14 into S14 because its so simple first off harness your going to need to get custom lines if you want a/c anyways VTC is great. Nissan realized their mistake with the t25 so thats why they gave you a t28... which isnt bad for a while less likely to be abused motor (younger than a s13 of course but I did say LESS LIKELY) dont skimp out, do it correctly, get the s14 sr __________________

09-08-2007, 04:59 PM	#11
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 38 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For the most part they are a little off, most like to get new lines simply to fit the new setup as they wish/please I have seen both people complain about stock KA lines and some getting them to work with no problem. Its been a while since I have seen a A/C 240 that isnt KA powered. __________________

09-09-2007, 08:23 AM	#15
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'm saying adjustable cam gears won't let you use VTC. So once you dip into cams that goes out the window too. I didn't notice any difference going from VTC to Tomei 270's and not having VTC. I'd just get a redtop, rebuild it properly and build it from there but what do I know? I've never touched an SR before.... CMKAC - Drive an SR with some balls and I'm sure you'll change your mind on gay shit like VTC and don't try to make some kind of retort stating that said SR with balls might have a better balanced power curve with VTC because there's no helping some turbo's. __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

09-08-2007, 01:08 PM	#3
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 38 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i would honestly say to get s14sr.... i know i went with it for my s13 coupe and im sure glad i did!

09-08-2007, 01:12 PM	#4
hung12848 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vegas Age: 49 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S14 !!! but you live in TX for sure you need A/C

09-08-2007, 01:15 PM	#5
robtheflyer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Killeen, TX Age: 47 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no doubt I need A/C it's hot like crazy here, I had to repair my A/C on the KA a while back, two weeks without AC was insane! is there a problem with keeping AC? I thought the KA compressor would work? Just needed to bolt up the bracket?

09-08-2007, 02:11 PM	#6
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 38 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	well i have an s14sr ac compressor if anyone wants it.

09-08-2007, 02:45 PM	#7
sblack13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Age: 38 Posts: 1,016 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	s13 sr in a s14, yuck nuff said. Do it nice not ghetto. Do it, and have no regrets

09-08-2007, 02:50 PM	#8
garagelu Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 40 Posts: 1,856 Trader Rating: (60) Feedback Score: 60 reviews	it depends what your budget allows for. If you have the money get the s14 sr, you will be happier with it in the long run. I dont think the extra cost is in the VTC. Its more in the turbo. A s14 turbo is worth about 400-500 dollars where a s13 turbo is worth about 100-150 dollars. So thats where the extra cost comes in. The good thing about s13 engines are the low cost, parts availability, and replacement cost is low also. Not say that s14 parts are hard to find, just that s13 stuff is everywhere and cheap also.

09-08-2007, 04:13 PM	#10
robtheflyer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Killeen, TX Age: 47 Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for all the input, I really appreciate all the opinions and experience, you said that I'll need custom AC lines? I read on the Heavy throttle FAQ and if I remember the lines bolt right up, maybe a little off but not any custom work... is this info incorrect?

09-08-2007, 08:59 PM	#12
MADE Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norf Norf Posts: 974 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My s14SR used the same A/C lines with KA compressor until the bolt broke holding the L/P hose to the compressor. Soon as I get a new bolt back on it will continue to work like new. The only difference I noticed is the fan speed but cools the same.

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