Cusco Tension Rods Bar? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

**West** · 10-29-2002, 01:15 PM

Anyone have any experiance with this? It looks simular to the Nismo Lower Power Bar that Jspec.com has just a dif design and its alot cheaper. It connects in front of your Front sway bar to your tension rods or where those mount to. I was just wonder what everyones thoughts on this bar was or if anyone even knew about it, its new to me. Its only like $69 from this site, but of course you have to pay like 5,000 yen + 1,000 yen to get it sent to the US.

Foxcolt · 10-29-2002, 01:26 PM

Very interesting. Seems like it does the same thing as a front H brace. Not sure if that's the right term for it.

Looks like it just stiffens chasis rigidity a little. Not bad for the price.

Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>
I would love to get my hands on some cusco swaybars, just cause their blue!

*sykikchimp* · 10-29-2002, 01:28 PM

Thats new to me.  looks like a great idea..   and for $69 how can you go wrong.

Where did you find it at?  for that kind of price I might buy one myself.

HippoSleek · 10-29-2002, 02:27 PM

hmm... if I am looking at it right, it looks like it is connecting the two t/c rods in a path similar to the sway?  Like a lower strut tie bar on and double wishbone?

Foxcolt · 10-29-2002, 02:34 PM

I think it acts just as a strutbar would. Mainley because it's not attached to any moving peices like a swaybar is. However I don't know if the cross braces that the TC rods are bolted to warp at all during cornering.

Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

camppain · 10-29-2002, 03:15 PM

from the looks of it it looks like toe can be manipulated to a further degree with that

*sykikchimp* · 10-29-2002, 03:22 PM

camppain - How would you be able to adjust toe with that bar, I'm not quite sure I see what your talking about?  

I think it just removes any flex that would be present at the mounting points for the T/C rods..  esentially maintaining suspension geomety to a greater degree.  I think comparing it to a Strut tower brace is right on.

camppain · 10-29-2002, 03:24 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ Oct. 30 2002,04:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">camppain - How would you be able to adjust toe with that bar, I'm not quite sure I see what your talking about?

I think it just removes any flex that would be present at the mounting points for the T/C rods.. esentially maintaining suspension geomety to a greater degree. I think comparing it to a Strut tower brace is right on.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
if you see it has threads in the middle the bar bolts up to the tc rods which connect to the control arm......which now that i am thinking is probably morefor either caster or camber since you brought it up. but it should allow for one of the alignment settings i stated, which one i dont know <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

*sykikchimp* · 10-29-2002, 03:27 PM

T/C rods control Caster..   but if you were to try to control caster from that bar you would be flexing the chasis right?  don't the T/C rods bolt directly to a chassis mount?

*LanceS13* · 10-29-2002, 03:31 PM

I'm pretty sure it's just a chassis brace.  It wouldn't be able to alter any alignment settings b/c it's not attached to any sort of moving suspension component.  That little adjustment is just for tightening the fitment so it can actually do its job as a brace...just like the adjustment on an STB.

*sykikchimp* · 10-29-2002, 03:40 PM

well, they are selling it with the strut tower bars..

btw - this is the first solid, stb I've ever seen for our cars:

HippoSleek · 10-29-2002, 04:46 PM

That's what I was saying... a lower strut tie bar (a la Honda bling bling fame).  

I'd agree it can't change any suspension settings either.  But I also don't think it would really do anything good for the rest of the car.  I read some long detailed piece for a BMW that explained why strut tie bars weren't of any real use on a double wishbone and were of even less use on a macphereson strut.  Something to the effect of there is no load down there b/c the McP set up is already load/force bearing and there was no stress applied to that geometry point.  Take it as you will.

To me, it looks like more $ and more weight w/o any benefits.

BadMoJo · 10-30-2002, 01:07 AM

I was thinkin about the Nismo power bar but this does look nice and alot cheaper. Where did you see it at? and wonder if anyone has it?

*LanceS13* · 10-30-2002, 01:37 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Oct. 29 2002,5:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I read some long detailed piece for a BMW that explained why strut tie bars weren't of any real use on a double wishbone and were of even less use on a macphereson strut. Something to the effect of there is no load down there b/c the McP set up is already load/force bearing and there was no stress applied to that geometry point. Take it as you will.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
hmmm...interesting.  There was a very noticeable difference when I installed my STB's.

camppain · 10-30-2002, 03:08 AM

http://www.japanparts.com/index.html

HippoSleek · 10-30-2002, 07:09 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ Oct. 30 2002,02:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hmmm...interesting. There was a very noticeable difference when I installed my STB's.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
STBs are different b/c that connects the tops of the towers.  There is no other horizontal reinforcement in that area.  That is a prime area of mush and chassis flex.

**West** · 10-30-2002, 10:54 AM

My buddy Leo said he is checking to see about a possible Broup Buy on these. nismo.com or japanparts.com or whoever it is said they can get them for $125 Shipped. Im just seeing how many people would be interested and then we can see what kind of price Leo can offer.

If your interested please post how interested you are so we can get an acuurate price. Thanks!

BadMoJo · 10-30-2002, 01:31 PM

I am interested.

*LanceS13* · 10-30-2002, 01:41 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Oct. 30 2002,08:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">STBs are different b/c that connects the tops of the towers. There is no other horizontal reinforcement in that area. That is a prime area of mush and chassis flex.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Oh...ok.  I misunderstood.  Didn't know you were talking about lower tie bas. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'>

10-29-2002, 01:15 PM	#1
West OMNOMNOMNOM Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Denver, CO Age: 44 Posts: 6,456 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: West Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Anyone have any experiance with this? It looks simular to the Nismo Lower Power Bar that Jspec.com has just a dif design and its alot cheaper. It connects in front of your Front sway bar to your tension rods or where those mount to. I was just wonder what everyones thoughts on this bar was or if anyone even knew about it, its new to me. Its only like $69 from this site, but of course you have to pay like 5,000 yen + 1,000 yen to get it sent to the US. __________________ West - Zilvia.net - Toyobaru.net - NapkinSketch.com

10-29-2002, 01:26 PM	#2
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Very interesting. Seems like it does the same thing as a front H brace. Not sure if that's the right term for it. Looks like it just stiffens chasis rigidity a little. Not bad for the price. Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> I would love to get my hands on some cusco swaybars, just cause their blue! __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

10-29-2002, 01:28 PM	#3
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats new to me.  looks like a great idea..   and for $69 how can you go wrong. Where did you find it at?  for that kind of price I might buy one myself. __________________

10-29-2002, 02:34 PM	#5
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it acts just as a strutbar would. Mainley because it's not attached to any moving peices like a swaybar is. However I don't know if the cross braces that the TC rods are bolted to warp at all during cornering. Jed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

10-29-2002, 03:15 PM	#6
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	from the looks of it it looks like toe can be manipulated to a further degree with that __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

10-29-2002, 02:27 PM	#4
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmm... if I am looking at it right, it looks like it is connecting the two t/c rods in a path similar to the sway?  Like a lower strut tie bar on and double wishbone?

10-29-2002, 03:22 PM	#7
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	camppain - How would you be able to adjust toe with that bar, I'm not quite sure I see what your talking about?   I think it just removes any flex that would be present at the mounting points for the T/C rods..  esentially maintaining suspension geomety to a greater degree.  I think comparing it to a Strut tower brace is right on. __________________

10-29-2002, 03:24 PM	#8
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ Oct. 30 2002,04:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">camppain - How would you be able to adjust toe with that bar, I'm not quite sure I see what your talking about? I think it just removes any flex that would be present at the mounting points for the T/C rods.. esentially maintaining suspension geomety to a greater degree. I think comparing it to a Strut tower brace is right on.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> if you see it has threads in the middle the bar bolts up to the tc rods which connect to the control arm......which now that i am thinking is probably morefor either caster or camber since you brought it up. but it should allow for one of the alignment settings i stated, which one i dont know <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'> __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

10-29-2002, 03:27 PM	#9
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	T/C rods control Caster..   but if you were to try to control caster from that bar you would be flexing the chasis right?  don't the T/C rods bolt directly to a chassis mount? __________________

10-29-2002, 03:31 PM	#10
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm pretty sure it's just a chassis brace.  It wouldn't be able to alter any alignment settings b/c it's not attached to any sort of moving suspension component.  That little adjustment is just for tightening the fitment so it can actually do its job as a brace...just like the adjustment on an STB. __________________ 1992 240SX Fastback #47 DSP MS SCCA RX-7 ITS Project FOR SALE

10-29-2002, 03:40 PM	#11
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 44 Posts: 6,525 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well, they are selling it with the strut tower bars.. btw - this is the first solid, stb I've ever seen for our cars: __________________

10-29-2002, 04:46 PM	#12
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's what I was saying... a lower strut tie bar (a la Honda bling bling fame).   I'd agree it can't change any suspension settings either.  But I also don't think it would really do anything good for the rest of the car.  I read some long detailed piece for a BMW that explained why strut tie bars weren't of any real use on a double wishbone and were of even less use on a macphereson strut.  Something to the effect of there is no load down there b/c the McP set up is already load/force bearing and there was no stress applied to that geometry point.  Take it as you will. To me, it looks like more $ and more weight w/o any benefits.

10-30-2002, 01:07 AM	#13
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I was thinkin about the Nismo power bar but this does look nice and alot cheaper. Where did you see it at? and wonder if anyone has it? __________________ ----Gone----

10-30-2002, 01:37 AM	#14
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Oct. 29 2002,5:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I read some long detailed piece for a BMW that explained why strut tie bars weren't of any real use on a double wishbone and were of even less use on a macphereson strut. Something to the effect of there is no load down there b/c the McP set up is already load/force bearing and there was no stress applied to that geometry point. Take it as you will.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> hmmm...interesting.  There was a very noticeable difference when I installed my STB's. __________________ 1992 240SX Fastback #47 DSP MS SCCA RX-7 ITS Project FOR SALE

10-30-2002, 03:08 AM	#15
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.japanparts.com/index.html __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

10-30-2002, 07:09 AM	#16
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LanceS13 @ Oct. 30 2002,02:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">hmmm...interesting. There was a very noticeable difference when I installed my STB's.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> STBs are different b/c that connects the tops of the towers.  There is no other horizontal reinforcement in that area.  That is a prime area of mush and chassis flex.

10-30-2002, 10:54 AM	#17
West OMNOMNOMNOM Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Denver, CO Age: 44 Posts: 6,456 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: West Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My buddy Leo said he is checking to see about a possible Broup Buy on these. nismo.com or japanparts.com or whoever it is said they can get them for $125 Shipped. Im just seeing how many people would be interested and then we can see what kind of price Leo can offer. If your interested please post how interested you are so we can get an acuurate price. Thanks! __________________ West - Zilvia.net - Toyobaru.net - NapkinSketch.com

10-30-2002, 01:31 PM	#18
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am interested. __________________ ----Gone----

10-30-2002, 01:41 PM	#19
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (HippoSleek @ Oct. 30 2002,08:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">STBs are different b/c that connects the tops of the towers. There is no other horizontal reinforcement in that area. That is a prime area of mush and chassis flex.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Oh...ok.  I misunderstood.  Didn't know you were talking about lower tie bas. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/lookaround.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':look:'> __________________ 1992 240SX Fastback #47 DSP MS SCCA RX-7 ITS Project FOR SALE

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