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*handinpants* · 08-16-2009, 10:31 PM

Vehicle Import: US Department of Justice Letter : 60 Days to Export or Surrender.

Letter one Kaizo customer received.

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this was information was recieved from an Email sent to me by Sean Morris

AutoTune · 08-16-2009, 10:37 PM

Oh

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xpertsnowcarver · 08-16-2009, 10:53 PM

whaaaat!!!??? Damn, that blows.... but, yes.. too vague. This letter doesn't warn the recipient of definite/immediate action.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 08-16-2009, 11:00 PM

How many folks do you think is actually gonna give in to this?

xpertsnowcarver · 08-16-2009, 11:02 PM

none.. shoot, i wouldn't...

nismolism · 08-16-2009, 11:02 PM

that guy needs to cash it in as a clunker...lol

*hOngsterr* · 08-16-2009, 11:07 PM

lol,
guy lives locally.

singlecamslam · 08-16-2009, 11:16 PM

Its California, what the fork do you expect?

drift_limo · 08-17-2009, 12:34 AM

wow that really sucks is that only for california residents with a kaizo cars or does that include the whole U.S?

drift freaq · 08-17-2009, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift_limo

wow that really sucks is that only for california residents with a kaizo cars or does that include the whole U.S?

Its Federal, that letter is from the U.S. Attorney's office. Not a State of California . Now is it completely legal? That's hard to say. The U.S. Attorney that wrote it is definitely hesitant in the wording which creates a valid legal challenge in court.

bardabe · 08-17-2009, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

Its Federal, that letter is from the U.S. Attorney's office. Not a State of California . Now is it completely legal? That's hard to say. The U.S. Attorney that wrote it is definitely hesitant in the wording which creates a valid legal challenge in court.

not only that but if the car was imported in parts there is absolutely nothing wrong with it it ha sbeen discussed many times over on the freshalloy forums

TPS240sxS13 · 08-17-2009, 01:19 AM

Wow thats horrible, I wonder if changing it to a "race" car would stop the Feds or are they just trying to find ways to impound these cars. My other question is if they impound all the Skylines and whatnot. What will they do with them? Its not like they can resell them seeing that they are "not road legal" and I dont think US customs can just ship them back to Japan, theres no one there to take them. So what are their plans?

wgJoY · 08-17-2009, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPS240sxS13

Wow thats horrible, I wonder if changing it to a "race" car would stop the Feds or are they just trying to find ways to impound these cars. My other question is if they impound all the Skylines and whatnot. What will they do with them? Its not like they can resell them seeing that they are "not road legal" and I dont think US customs can just ship them back to Japan, theres no one there to take them. So what are their plans?

I'd imagine they would do the same thing that the Car Manufacture's Cash for Clunkers deal would, seizing the motor and not allowing the resale of any of the car's parts, maybe in an attempt to stimulate the consumer purchase of newer cars/parts.

Or turn the car into a cube.

*handinpants* · 08-17-2009, 12:54 AM

i would register it as a race car for off highway use. i'm gonna call that immigrations and customs enforcement special agent doosh named jeffrey eastman 949-250-1950 xt 230 and bother him with a bucket full of questions. see what he's doing to keep illigal immigrants from running in from mexico, and why this car seems like a problem.... i honestly don't see a problem with these super cars, the gembala or the ruf turbo cars coming in from germany, making gobs of power and some how being epa complient

wgJoY · 08-17-2009, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by handinpants

i'm gonna call that fbi doosh and bother him with a bucket full of questions.

hmm

not a bad idea

blackrms13 · 08-17-2009, 01:28 AM

i thought they had been doing this for a long time
all non R33s needs to be OUT

SlideWell · 08-17-2009, 01:35 AM

DHS can suck my nuts

zenki.life · 08-17-2009, 01:37 AM

so sad. governments suck. what can ya say

180love · 08-17-2009, 06:25 AM

shitttt i would get a storage garage under a friends name or something to store it untill they give up or move onto bothering someone else...

Ceepo · 08-17-2009, 08:45 AM

First fail was registering it as a skyline, need to register it as a kit car or something so the they cant goverment cant track it, idk, utah is totally diffrent the other states, we can get state issued vin numbers so the fed. gov. cant track a state issued vin, i had a freind register 5 skylines he imported as a Nissan 2door coupe on the title lol... i dont think any of his customers have had any problems with them either...

AutoTune · 08-17-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceepo

First fail was registering it as a skyline, need to register it as a kit car or something so the they cant goverment cant track it, idk, utah is totally diffrent the other states, we can get state issued vin numbers so the fed. gov. cant track a state issued vin, i had a freind register 5 skylines he imported as a Nissan 2door coupe on the title lol... i dont think any of his customers have had any problems with them either...

here's the shity part....you live in utah

OBEEWON · 08-17-2009, 08:54 AM

Looks like a hater reported them. "It has been brought to my knowledge..."

*handinpants* · 08-18-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Looks like a hater reported them. "It has been brought to my knowledge..."

about 2 months ago kaizo was raided my the feds and their computers were siezed. on thos computers are names and addresses of kaizo car owners.

I called this special ageny guy today, left my cell for him to call me bac k

WoolyS14DET · 08-17-2009, 09:05 AM

The "person" who got said letter live in the state of California ??

ronmcdon · 08-17-2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyS14DET

The "person" who got said letter live in the state of California ??

The letter was sent from the a US attorney's office, located in Santa Ana, CA.
No mention in the letter, or the article which State the owner is located.

If it is indeed a Federal matter, the owner of the car could plausibly be located in a different state (I'm guessing here).

OptionZero · 08-17-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

The letter was sent from the a US attorney's office, located in Santa Ana, CA.
No mention in the letter, or the article which State the owner is located.

If it is indeed a Federal matter, the owner of the car could plausibly be located in a different state (I'm guessing here).

The USA from Santa Ana is from the Central Federal Court District of California. They would not be sending letters to people from out of state; a USA's jurisdiction is over their district only (generally).

ronmcdon · 08-18-2009, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

The USA from Santa Ana is from the Central Federal Court District of California. They would not be sending letters to people from out of state; a USA's jurisdiction is over their district only (generally).

Got it.
Good to know.

GREXS14 · 08-17-2009, 09:28 AM

I always thought you could bring it in as parts and then register it as a kit car.

maybe this guy could help!

kandyflip445 · 08-17-2009, 10:15 AM

Very truly yours,

Thomas P. O'Brien

......wtf. What kinda douche ends a letter about seizing a car like that?

thetopcow · 08-17-2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandyflip445

Very truly yours,

Thomas P. O'Brien

......wtf. What kinda douche ends a letter about seizing a car like that?

Agreed, this almost seems like it could be a scam...just seems fishy.

08-16-2009, 10:31 PM	#1
handinpants FreshColdBeer.com Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 42 Posts: 2,665 Trader Rating: (48) Rides Gallery: handinpants Feedback Score: 48 reviews	Kaizo Car: US Department of Justice Letter : 60 Days to Export or Surrender : Vehicle Import: US Department of Justice Letter : 60 Days to Export or Surrender. Letter one Kaizo customer received. -- this was information was recieved from an Email sent to me by Sean Morris __________________

08-16-2009, 10:53 PM	#3
xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	whaaaat!!!??? Damn, that blows.... but, yes.. too vague. This letter doesn't warn the recipient of definite/immediate action. __________________ My YouTube Channel

08-16-2009, 11:00 PM	#4
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	How many folks do you think is actually gonna give in to this? __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

08-16-2009, 11:02 PM	#5
xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	none.. shoot, i wouldn't... __________________ My YouTube Channel

08-16-2009, 11:16 PM	#8
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Its California, what the fork do you expect? __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

08-16-2009, 10:37 PM	#2
AutoTune BANNED Join Date: May 2009 Location: Southern California Age: 43 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh I SEe sON

08-16-2009, 11:02 PM	#6
nismolism Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: "562" Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	that guy needs to cash it in as a clunker...lol

08-17-2009, 12:34 AM	#9
drift_limo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: las vegas Posts: 353 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow that really sucks is that only for california residents with a kaizo cars or does that include the whole U.S? __________________ dirtypenguin.wordpress.com

08-17-2009, 01:19 AM	#12
TPS240sxS13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Carrollton, Texas Age: 36 Posts: 162 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow thats horrible, I wonder if changing it to a "race" car would stop the Feds or are they just trying to find ways to impound these cars. My other question is if they impound all the Skylines and whatnot. What will they do with them? Its not like they can resell them seeing that they are "not road legal" and I dont think US customs can just ship them back to Japan, theres no one there to take them. So what are their plans?

08-17-2009, 12:54 AM	#14
handinpants FreshColdBeer.com Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Age: 42 Posts: 2,665 Trader Rating: (48) Rides Gallery: handinpants Feedback Score: 48 reviews	i would register it as a race car for off highway use. i'm gonna call that immigrations and customs enforcement special agent doosh named jeffrey eastman 949-250-1950 xt 230 and bother him with a bucket full of questions. see what he's doing to keep illigal immigrants from running in from mexico, and why this car seems like a problem.... i honestly don't see a problem with these super cars, the gembala or the ruf turbo cars coming in from germany, making gobs of power and some how being epa complient __________________

08-17-2009, 01:28 AM	#16
blackrms13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 626 Posts: 2,591 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	i thought they had been doing this for a long time all non R33s needs to be OUT __________________ 91' 240sx Fastback LE

08-17-2009, 01:35 AM	#17
SlideWell Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 41 Posts: 1,591 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	DHS can suck my nuts

08-17-2009, 06:25 AM	#19
180love Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: south FL Age: 35 Posts: 416 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	shitttt i would get a storage garage under a friends name or something to store it untill they give up or move onto bothering someone else...

08-17-2009, 08:45 AM	#20
Ceepo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cedar City, Utah Posts: 2,007 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: Ceepo Feedback Score: 9 reviews	First fail was registering it as a skyline, need to register it as a kit car or something so the they cant goverment cant track it, idk, utah is totally diffrent the other states, we can get state issued vin numbers so the fed. gov. cant track a state issued vin, i had a freind register 5 skylines he imported as a Nissan 2door coupe on the title lol... i dont think any of his customers have had any problems with them either... __________________ TW: http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/390459...d9s-coils.html

08-17-2009, 08:54 AM	#22
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Looks like a hater reported them. "It has been brought to my knowledge..." __________________

08-17-2009, 09:05 AM	#24
WoolyS14DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 46 Posts: 1,310 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	The "person" who got said letter live in the state of California ??

08-17-2009, 09:28 AM	#28
GREXS14 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2008 Location: Do you have a room for rent? Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I always thought you could bring it in as parts and then register it as a kit car. maybe this guy could help!

08-17-2009, 10:15 AM	#29
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Very truly yours, Thomas P. O'Brien ......wtf. What kinda douche ends a letter about seizing a car like that? __________________ My 240 vBgarage

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