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Old 05-26-2010, 01:09 PM   #1
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starter relay problemos!

okay so last night.. car wouldn't start. full battery power. i can pushstart the car. i figure its gotta be something up with the starter system. i don't have the switch where i have to hold the clutch pedal down even though mine is a manual (stock, not converted) so i don't know if i still need to check the ASCD relay. two relays near my feet click when i attempt to turn the car on. starter is half new.. bought it in november. any idears?? i've tapped the starter just to see if it was stuck..still nothing. starter relay maybe?? where the eff is that thing anyway??

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Old 05-26-2010, 02:11 PM   #2
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relay should be in the fuse box and do not tap the starter since its pretty new itll fuck up the magnets inside
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:29 PM   #3
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no starter relays in the fuse box.. only thing that may relate is the ascd relay that i read up on. theres a starter signal fuse in the fuse box by my feet in the car but that one is good.
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:13 PM   #4
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adding on....today i replaced the starter...the gear wasn't coming out when i tested it. and it still won't start.... i'm at a lost for ideas... help!?
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It's the damn ignition wire that attaches to the starter, that thing slips off all the time if you still have the stock harness attaching to it. I cut my harness and wired in a fuse connector, then clamped it down a bit with a pliers so its not going anywhere. Its the black wire with yellow stripe connecting to your starter.
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i installed the new starter and tightened that thing down like crazy... AND checked all relays related to ignition and starter and clutch interlock. im so close to just making a starter switch and saying fuck it lol i haaatteee electrical!
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Old 05-30-2010, 01:40 PM   #7
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Have you checked your ignition switch?? The START position on your ignition switch could have gone bad. Only way to test it is to remove the steering column cover from the steering column & disconnect the harness from the ignition wiring. Take a volt/ohm meter & see if you have continuity when you turn the key to the START position. If you show continuity, then plug everything back in, and test for 12 volts when you turn the key to the START position. If you DON"T get 12 volts when you turn the KEY to the START position, then chances are you need to replace the ignition switch.

1995-1998 Nissan 240SX Ignition Switch - Steering - OES Genuine 95-98 240SX Ignition Switch - 6630-01068729 - PartsGeek

I've had this problem with my S14 along with a buddy of mine, so I'm familiar with this problem.

Anyhow, hope this helps.

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i did that. from behind the cylinder i have about 11 volts.. other side of the connector i only have about 10.. then i checked voltage down at the connector to the starter.. (black and yellow wire) nothin. but there's resistance... i had it starting for awhile but this morning it stopped again. so my next step is just to follow that black and yellow wire and see what the hell is wrong with it. i miss my 14 already.
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I am having the same exact problem on my 95. I still havnt found the problem, so I just rigged up a switch direct to the starter, the only problem with mine is that where i hooked for power, when I hit the switch the starter isnt getting all the power it needs cause of the electronics, i.e. constant fan, cd player, etc. So it has a little trouble starting. Sorry for the rant
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There is so many things going on here that I can't tell what's going on.

What year is the car? What engine? Wiring mods? Turbo timer? alarm? anything?
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i did that. from behind the cylinder i have about 11 volts.. other side of the connector i only have about 10.. then i checked voltage down at the connector to the starter.. (black and yellow wire) nothin. but there's resistance... i had it starting for awhile but this morning it stopped again. so my next step is just to follow that black and yellow wire and see what the hell is wrong with it. i miss my 14 already.
You won't get any voltage from the black/yellow wire unless the key is turned to the START position. You need to put the multimeter on volt, unplug the wire from the starter, tap into the wire with the red probe and ground the black probe somewhere on the chassis, then have someone turn the key to the start position and see if you see 12V. If its too difficult to access that black/yellow wire for probing then you need to check it out behind your ignition switch.
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my car is having the same problem im thinking is the starter relay my car doesn't even crank or doesn't even make any clicking noise everything else turns on like the radio fuel pump and all of the electrical stuff the relay looks like it doesnt even work i tested the starter at auto zone it was fine fuses all good all wires were in place checked ignition all good still no crank this has been frustrating me it has been like this for 2 days already
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check ALL your grounds guys, starters pull a lot of juice and if you have flaky connections other things will still work but the starter won't. mainly engine ground to chassis and battery ground cable.
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thanks but it was my starter relay once i replaced it started up with no problems
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thanks but it was my starter relay once i replaced it started up with no problems
The S13/14 doesn't have a starter "relay". The ignition switch ST signal goes straight to the starter "solenoid" integrated into the starter.

The "solenoid" is a type of relay used to pull starter power straight from the battery, but it's not really called a relay.
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I fixed my problem, (dont know the name of the thing that i switched) but on the back of your ignition switch there is your "ignition selector" :/, unscrew it from your switch, use a screwdriver to turn the T, see if it starts it, if it does, then more than likely it could be bad, mine was hit or miss, so I replaced it, now it works fine.
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