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08-19-2003, 10:05 AM
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what other engine could be droped in
i am new to the world of nissan so bare with me. I know you can drop in a sr20det into a 98 240 what about the skyline gts engine (the engine code escapes me right now)?
What would be the best thing to drop into a 98 for all around good power, and also what would be the best value (the whole more bang for your buck)? |
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08-19-2003, 11:14 AM
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i bet if u tried hard enough you could put one of those 50hp John Deer lawn mowers under your hood, i bet you could get real nice gas mileage on that
 And they last forever! |
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08-19-2003, 08:40 PM
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use the search in the future, this has been discussed a few times. you could swap in an sr, rb or small block chevy. you could probably mount just about anything though, money is the only defining factor though
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08-19-2003, 09:34 PM
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RB20DET, SR20DET, RB25DETT, and RB26DETT (may be?), CA18DET... I wish I could see some rotary motors in the 240sx though (12B, 13B rotary)
you guys are lucky, since at least you can swap something... unlike our fellow altimas... we are pretty much stuck with the KA24DE (which is not bad at all  if done right). SR20DET should be in an altima soon...
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08-20-2003, 12:48 PM
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haha. dam. yea, yo ucan drop in any motor you want. all it takes is money. LoL. drop in a v12 ferari engine.
but seriously, i just answered a simliar question from another newbie who refuses to search or stay on the forum long enough to learn. you guys who are posting repeated questions are just waisting bandwich. arg.. here you go, i just copied and pasted my old response. its kinda detailed, but use the serach next time.  quote:  you are going to game FLAMED for asking this question. just wait till dousan, mrmephisto, ruf, or some other members see this thread. they ask you to do a simple search. (where's the big red search pic when you need it. lol.)anyways, the rb20 is not THAT much cooler than you make it out to be. the only thing i like about the rb20 is that it has 2 extra cylinders. it still has the same displacement as an sr but the 2 extra cylinders give it the ability to make more hp with proper upgrades and run safer longer. in my book, about 400hp is all i will tune a 4 cylinder car to make. of course you can make more than that, but i want it to last more than say 20,000 miles without blowing or wearing down the motor. putting too much strain on a motor will shorten its life. with a 6cylinder, you can probably safely push out 600+hp and make it last for a while. of course, there are 6 cylinders out there running 1000+ hp for drag applications so the potential is there. the most i've seen a 4cylinder car make is ~800hp. (examples: the jun s14, and theres also stephan papadaka's h22 powered drag civic. but those cars blow motors, trannies, axles, cuz of the stress.) how much for a redtop or blacktop front clip really depends on who you buy it from. if you buy it from ebay, maybe $1500 for a front clip, but it'll be missing almost everything you need. dont buy from ebay. there are lots of scandelous ppl out there using stolen pics and they'll be off with your money as soon as you pay them. its worth it to buy from a reputable dealer such as phase2 or unstable hybrids. again, do your homework and shop around. a better questino you should have ask on this thread was 'who is more reputable cause im thinking about buying a clip soon' true, it is easier to drop in an sr than getting custom parts from all over to drop an rb in. you will still need to replace the clutch fan or run aftermakret electric fans for an sr swap, but you can use the same driveshaft. seriously, 5hp doesn't make the RB more COOL. in racing sports, 5hp doesn't make a dam difference, it'll be more on driver. if it was say, at least 30hp difference, then it can be weighed in as a deciding factor. s14/s15 blacktops do have more hp from the factory than redtops because they have bigger ball bearing turbos and vvtc. s13 blacktops and redtops have highport heads for better airflow. it is probably easier to and less expensive to tune s13 srs because of the high port heads, but if vvtc is something you really want, there are ways to get lots of hp from s14/s15 blacktops also. in the USofA, RB parts are harder to find. true. but most sr parts have to be imported as well. they are just in stock more now, since the trend. SRs have t25 and t28 w/ full ball bearing turbos depending on year. you really have to search this. i dont know about rb20, but i think it has a t25 stock turbo as well since most stock turbos are t25s or around there. you probably want to upgrade to make lots of hp, since there is a limit on stock turbo effieciently and how much air they can produce. DAM, i wasn't planning to answer all your questions, but i did. now search for the rest. im still waiting for the flames to come in. lol.
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08-20-2003, 02:29 PM
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aight... I know I am noob on this forum, but when I read the magazine (import tuner?? can't remember), it listed the options for the s14 for swap/buildup...
option 1: keep the KA and... KA24DET is powerful option 2: SR20DET swap option 3: RB25DET swap option 4: CA18DET swap... bunch of noob haters  ... it's cool, I will come along...
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08-20-2003, 04:35 PM
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well, let me clarify this...no such thing as KA24DET out of factory... but you can always turbocharge it (for the altimas, F-max kit or real nissan, if not go custom), and it's proven to be pretty damn powerful and very torquey.
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08-20-2003, 11:10 PM
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you guys are going to see another motor in a 240 soon(insert evil laugh here) |
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08-20-2003, 11:17 PM
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sr20det, rb20det, ka24de, etc are engine codes created by the factory to refer to their engines. However there was no turbocharged ka made by the factory, therefore nissan NEVER had a code stating KA24DET. Thats why u often see people say KA24DE-T as in a sense to make it different from other engine codes to not make people confused. KA24DET is an invention by people with turbocharged kas, and is nothing more than a way to refer to a turbocharged ka. I don't really give a **** what people call them, but since your were diggin yourself a hole with rb25dett, i thought i'd help you out.....
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08-21-2003, 01:43 AM
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Its loaded with misinformation, its clear that you have NO idea what you are talking about, and there is terrible grammar. Its an RB25det. The RB26dett has already been done. People have put rotaries in, in japan. Its a 12A. People have had sr20dets in altimas forever. I would expect even noobs to know this, as the "disco potato" is an SCC favorite. If I saw you in real life, I would punch you in the face. Me in all my 5'6 130 pound glory. I would clock you in the grill. please stop posting on this forum. or any forum for that matter. Just read some posts for a couple months, then you can start posting again. |
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08-21-2003, 01:46 AM
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KAT is also used to refer to a turbocharged ka engine.
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08-21-2003, 08:24 AM
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lol.. haterism... it's cool... I have been reading FAQs before I started posting here...
well, there's no turbocharged KA24DE out of the factory... most altimas.net members have put on the f-max kit, and we call those KA24DET or KA24DE-T. In Japan, the bluebird SSS (hense, altima in the US) used the SR20DET motor with AWD tranny, the bluebird shares the same chassis code with the altima (U13 93-97.5)... As for all the US models altima, KA24DE is the powerplant (93 to 01). There's a chance someone outside of altimas.net has done/completed an SR20DET swap, but no pics = lies ... however, currently krackmnkysnick is the only member on our forum doing the SR20DET swap (it's gonna be FWD, not AWD)I wish I could use some of the hate in this thread on altimas.net noobs...
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08-21-2003, 08:46 AM
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some guy on FA a while back was going to put a ferrari 308 V-8 in an s14 i vote for the Rolls Royce Merlin V12 it is an avaition motor but has a lot of potential
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08-21-2003, 09:10 AM
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go get a feb. 2002 issue of SCC then flip to page 84. 2000 sentra se with a sr20de+t. and its very old. oh, and its "hence". I hate most altima people. |
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08-21-2003, 10:09 AM
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I didn't mention sentra at all?
I was talking about altima... altima.... altima with SR20DET + AWD tranny... bump Quote:
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08-21-2003, 10:33 AM
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[EDIT]Just realized.... sr uses same mounts as ka. therefore you can take sr from the sentra put it in the altima and turbo that. I think that's what he meant.[/EDIT]
and u still seem to be missing my point. I really don't care what people call the ka turbo, and i understand when u say KA24DET. The point of my original post was that there is no such thing as KA24DET kode. You can call it MONKEYENGINE and it will be as legit for a ka turbo as KA24DET. KA24DET (as a code) doesnt exist.
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08-21-2003, 11:05 AM
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it was originally done by Control-Z in huntington beach. there are pics of my friends car from a nissan meet a while back. i will post them so you can call me a liar. |
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08-21-2003, 12:04 PM
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ranisron, are you a newb on altimas.net too? because, i found a link with a pic of my friend's car on altimas.net. here it is. his name is Miguel aka ill93 on your site. that is an old pic, his car is coming out of the body shop this weekend and going straight to my shop
http://controlzperform.brinkster.net...e%20Swaps.html |
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08-31-2003, 08:08 PM
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Don't want to get too technical like all of you with your KA24DE-T shiz, but it's listed as a 92 altima on that webpage and even newbs know that nissan never produced an altima in 1992. Seriously though, being an altimas.net junkie myself, I know that ill93 has done the swap, but he's been relevantly quiet for quite some time. Therefore ranisron probably hasn't heard much about him or the swap. I see no reason to be so rude to everyone.
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