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hondaguy · 10-05-2003, 10:27 PM

ok i have the chance to buy a 240 coupe only problem is thats it a AUTOMATIC,but it has very high miles on it,so i was wondering if i bought a new 5 spd motor and tranny, could i just swap that in, pretty easy??

DuffMan · 10-05-2003, 11:11 PM

Look in the faq section

hondaguy · 10-05-2003, 11:28 PM

ok i looked at the faq and didnt see anything...

*revat619* · 10-05-2003, 11:38 PM

look harder man, trust me its there.

DuffMan · 10-05-2003, 11:43 PM

try ... PAGE 2

holisticbeatz · 10-05-2003, 11:44 PM

http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/s14_5speed_swap.htm

hondaguy · 10-05-2003, 11:53 PM

man that sucks ok thank guys i guess i'll keep my fastback then,at least thats a 5spd

zenkiDori · 10-06-2003, 07:59 AM

it's really not hard or expensive. check this out.
it's more time consuming than anything.

**mrmephistopheles** · 10-06-2003, 08:23 AM

zenkidori. look up 2 posts...

hondaguy · 10-06-2003, 03:02 PM

so i cant just buy a new motor and tranny and throw that in there??

zenkiDori · 10-07-2003, 12:00 AM

you can, but you'll need all the parts that make a manual work, like clutch master and slave cylander, brake and clutch pedals(whole assemblies), lines, etc.

the head · 10-07-2003, 10:40 AM

you don't need the brake pedal from a manual just cut down your auto brake pedal if you need any parts for this swap i think a have everything except the hardlines sitting around in my garage you can do the mechanical part of this install with a 12 mm socket and two drill bits the whole thing is rather simple and straight forward

hondaguy · 10-07-2003, 03:20 PM

where ae you located at?how much will you sell it for??

the head · 10-07-2003, 10:50 PM

i dunno how much it would cost i am in iowa so it may cost a bit you should be able to find most of it at a junkyard i have a zip file that has all the part numbers and step by step instructions for the swap but it is too big to post here (2.50MB) and MSN won't let me e-mail it i will have to find a way to get it out there so people can use it but for right now i dunno

knghtryde · 10-08-2003, 10:38 AM

it's actually pretty simple. I just finished doing the 5spd swap in my fast back about 2 weeks ago. We started at 11am and where finished by 7pm. As long as you have everything it's really simple to do. But it is a 2 man prject.

hondaguy · 10-08-2003, 02:31 PM

a knightryder check your mail i sent u a pm

meme · 10-09-2003, 02:11 AM

does the jdm clutch pedal setup from an s13 work on a usdm s13 or s14 chassis?

knghtryde · 10-09-2003, 12:11 PM

Hey Hondaguy,

I didn't get your email. Email me at [email protected]. I'm haveing trouble with my Zilvia.net email account for some reason.

the head · 10-09-2003, 12:26 PM

i know it is the same as S13 not sure on S14 though

DRFT · 10-10-2003, 01:13 AM

This question is a little different, it was explained in the FAQ or anywhere else that i have read. What about the tranny fluid pan? because whne i got the car(auto) the tranny was slipping so i changed the ATF and it ran fine. Since i will be doing the swap, is there a different tranny pan? if not what fluid do i use? do i just drain the ATF and fill it up w/ manual tranny fluid (if it exist)? and what about the OD?

knghtryde · 10-10-2003, 10:04 AM

DRFT,

The manual transmission does not have an oil pan, and it does not use ATF. It uses gear oil. Just go to your local parts store and tell them you need gear oil for the Manual Tranny on a Nissan 240sx and they will direct you in the right direction.

On the over drive question. There is no Overdrive on a 5spd just a fifth gear. I am really confused about your question. If you are doing a 5spd swap, you are taking off all the automatic equipment including wiring. There is some re-wiring that you need to do.

jy116 · 10-10-2003, 10:38 PM

Hey Hondaguy, im in the same situation... one step further. I actually bought the car... so if u do get the auto, lemme come help and learn from ur swap!... or else i may just shell out the doe and let sumone else do it.
How much the parts goin for from your garage "the head"? Im not sure how much it should cost cuz ive heard $400 to $600s... also, Im wondering if its cheapest to just go to a junk yard and pull it from a car there. I think s13s are all over the place.

PAnut240 · 10-11-2003, 12:34 AM

I have a 5spd that I'm accually trying to get rid of. The flywheel will probably need resurfaced and a new clutch, but I would hope you would be doing that anyway. Send me an Email. I'm up in Marrysville,CA and I want rid of this thing. Oh, there is nothing mech. wrong with it I just don't need 2 spair tranny's.

jy116 · 10-11-2003, 02:49 AM

So 89-90 trannys are OK even though theyre SOHC? Ive herd that the blocks are the same... but also that theyre different sumhow...

DRFT · 10-11-2003, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PAnut240
I have a 5spd that I'm accually trying to get rid of. The flywheel will probably need resurfaced and a new clutch, but I would hope you would be doing that anyway. Send me an Email. I'm up in Marrysville,CA and I want rid of this thing. Oh, there is nothing mech. wrong with it I just don't need 2 spair tranny's.

Are you trying to sell a whole car or jsut tranny? if it is a whole car how much? if it is a tranny do you have other 5spd swap parts?

PAnut240 · 10-11-2003, 07:53 AM

Its just the engine and tranny. I got almost everything needed for the 5spd swap, except the clutch pedal, Master and slave. I'm also not sure if I still have the cross member for it. Price, not much. Here The engine Details are fairly simple. Its a 90 KA24E with approx 130k on it. Which still runs like a raped ape. Motor brackets w/o mounts. wireing harness and ECU. I do have some spair car parts laying around but anyone who's interested email me or PM me so I am not taking up too much space on this thread.
Later\
Jim

10-05-2003, 10:27 PM	#1
hondaguy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: salinas monterey seaside area Age: 40 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	automatic to 5spd ok i have the chance to buy a 240 coupe only problem is thats it a AUTOMATIC,but it has very high miles on it,so i was wondering if i bought a new 5 spd motor and tranny, could i just swap that in, pretty easy?? __________________ if i had a dollar for every dollar i put in my car.........i would have all my money back

10-05-2003, 11:28 PM	#3
hondaguy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: salinas monterey seaside area Age: 40 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok i looked at the faq and didnt see anything... __________________ if i had a dollar for every dollar i put in my car.........i would have all my money back

10-05-2003, 11:38 PM	#4
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	look harder man, trust me its there. __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

10-05-2003, 11:44 PM	#6
holisticbeatz Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 988 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/s14_5speed_swap.htm __________________ Trust and I don't mean GReddy.

10-05-2003, 11:53 PM	#7
hondaguy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: salinas monterey seaside area Age: 40 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	man that sucks ok thank guys i guess i'll keep my fastback then,at least thats a 5spd __________________ if i had a dollar for every dollar i put in my car.........i would have all my money back

10-05-2003, 11:11 PM	#2
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Look in the faq section

10-05-2003, 11:43 PM	#5
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	try ... PAGE 2

10-06-2003, 07:59 AM	#8
zenkiDori Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it's really not hard or expensive. check this out. it's more time consuming than anything.

10-06-2003, 08:23 AM	#9
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	zenkidori. look up 2 posts...

10-06-2003, 03:02 PM	#10
hondaguy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: salinas monterey seaside area Age: 40 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so i cant just buy a new motor and tranny and throw that in there?? __________________ if i had a dollar for every dollar i put in my car.........i would have all my money back

10-07-2003, 12:00 AM	#11
zenkiDori Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 384 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you can, but you'll need all the parts that make a manual work, like clutch master and slave cylander, brake and clutch pedals(whole assemblies), lines, etc.

10-07-2003, 10:40 AM	#12
the head Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: in a dark room mastering the art of typing with one hand Posts: 2,164 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you don't need the brake pedal from a manual just cut down your auto brake pedal if you need any parts for this swap i think a have everything except the hardlines sitting around in my garage you can do the mechanical part of this install with a 12 mm socket and two drill bits the whole thing is rather simple and straight forward __________________ I never knew you could do that with an eggplant

10-07-2003, 03:20 PM	#13
hondaguy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: salinas monterey seaside area Age: 40 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	where ae you located at?how much will you sell it for?? __________________ if i had a dollar for every dollar i put in my car.........i would have all my money back

10-07-2003, 10:50 PM	#14
the head Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: in a dark room mastering the art of typing with one hand Posts: 2,164 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i dunno how much it would cost i am in iowa so it may cost a bit you should be able to find most of it at a junkyard i have a zip file that has all the part numbers and step by step instructions for the swap but it is too big to post here (2.50MB) and MSN won't let me e-mail it i will have to find a way to get it out there so people can use it but for right now i dunno __________________ I never knew you could do that with an eggplant

10-08-2003, 10:38 AM	#15
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 45 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it's actually pretty simple. I just finished doing the 5spd swap in my fast back about 2 weeks ago. We started at 11am and where finished by 7pm. As long as you have everything it's really simple to do. But it is a 2 man prject. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

10-08-2003, 02:31 PM	#16
hondaguy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: salinas monterey seaside area Age: 40 Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	a knightryder check your mail i sent u a pm __________________ if i had a dollar for every dollar i put in my car.........i would have all my money back

10-09-2003, 02:11 AM	#17
meme Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: glendale,CA Age: 48 Posts: 1,094 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	does the jdm clutch pedal setup from an s13 work on a usdm s13 or s14 chassis?

10-09-2003, 12:11 PM	#18
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 45 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey Hondaguy, I didn't get your email. Email me at [email protected]. I'm haveing trouble with my Zilvia.net email account for some reason. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

10-09-2003, 12:26 PM	#19
the head Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: in a dark room mastering the art of typing with one hand Posts: 2,164 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i know it is the same as S13 not sure on S14 though __________________ I never knew you could do that with an eggplant

10-10-2003, 01:13 AM	#20
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This question is a little different, it was explained in the FAQ or anywhere else that i have read. What about the tranny fluid pan? because whne i got the car(auto) the tranny was slipping so i changed the ATF and it ran fine. Since i will be doing the swap, is there a different tranny pan? if not what fluid do i use? do i just drain the ATF and fill it up w/ manual tranny fluid (if it exist)? and what about the OD?

10-10-2003, 10:04 AM	#21
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 45 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	DRFT, The manual transmission does not have an oil pan, and it does not use ATF. It uses gear oil. Just go to your local parts store and tell them you need gear oil for the Manual Tranny on a Nissan 240sx and they will direct you in the right direction. On the over drive question. There is no Overdrive on a 5spd just a fifth gear. I am really confused about your question. If you are doing a 5spd swap, you are taking off all the automatic equipment including wiring. There is some re-wiring that you need to do. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

10-10-2003, 10:38 PM	#22
jy116 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, CALifornia Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey Hondaguy, im in the same situation... one step further. I actually bought the car... so if u do get the auto, lemme come help and learn from ur swap!... or else i may just shell out the doe and let sumone else do it. How much the parts goin for from your garage "the head"? Im not sure how much it should cost cuz ive heard $400 to $600s... also, Im wondering if its cheapest to just go to a junk yard and pull it from a car there. I think s13s are all over the place. __________________ KYB AGX w/ dust boots $500obo... sadly serious

10-11-2003, 12:34 AM	#23
PAnut240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Marysville,CA Age: 43 Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a 5spd that I'm accually trying to get rid of. The flywheel will probably need resurfaced and a new clutch, but I would hope you would be doing that anyway. Send me an Email. I'm up in Marrysville,CA and I want rid of this thing. Oh, there is nothing mech. wrong with it I just don't need 2 spair tranny's. __________________ '89 Fastback  SR20det; Greddy Profec B II boost controller. HKS 262 CAMS. Greddy Radiator,pulleys,oilfilter relocation kit,boost gauge, rockerarm stoppers,intake manifold. Nismo Fuel Press Reg. Ferra duel Valvesprings, ti retainers. East Bear headlight conversion. Type X tail lights. Tien Suspension, Tanabe race exhaust.  GT 16" rims, Walbro high Pressure fuel Pump,  7pt rollcage. HKS BOV. Mandril Exhaust Man. GTR FMIC. BeeR Valve cover. JE Pistons and Eagle Rods.

10-11-2003, 02:49 AM	#24
jy116 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, CALifornia Posts: 785 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So 89-90 trannys are OK even though theyre SOHC? Ive herd that the blocks are the same... but also that theyre different sumhow... __________________ KYB AGX w/ dust boots $500obo... sadly serious

10-11-2003, 07:53 AM	#26
PAnut240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Marysville,CA Age: 43 Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its just the engine and tranny. I got almost everything needed for the 5spd swap, except the clutch pedal, Master and slave. I'm also not sure if I still have the cross member for it. Price, not much. Here The engine Details are fairly simple. Its a 90 KA24E with approx 130k on it. Which still runs like a raped ape. Motor brackets w/o mounts. wireing harness and ECU. I do have some spair car parts laying around but anyone who's interested email me or PM me so I am not taking up too much space on this thread. Later\ Jim __________________ '89 Fastback  SR20det; Greddy Profec B II boost controller. HKS 262 CAMS. Greddy Radiator,pulleys,oilfilter relocation kit,boost gauge, rockerarm stoppers,intake manifold. Nismo Fuel Press Reg. Ferra duel Valvesprings, ti retainers. East Bear headlight conversion. Type X tail lights. Tien Suspension, Tanabe race exhaust.  GT 16" rims, Walbro high Pressure fuel Pump,  7pt rollcage. HKS BOV. Mandril Exhaust Man. GTR FMIC. BeeR Valve cover. JE Pistons and Eagle Rods.

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