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mtbr64 · 02-01-2004, 05:34 PM

i would like to know why i can start my s13 without using the clutch also why is it that my car bogs down harcore in 5th gear when im going like 60? is this normal? because the 240sx have a big 5th gear? if you guys could tell my why my car is doing this please do so

typhoonslippery · 02-01-2004, 05:56 PM

60kph or mph

mtbr64 · 02-01-2004, 05:59 PM

sorry 60kph?
im just wondering because my friend in his probe can drive at 50 in 5th and all it does is drop the rpm to about a 1000 but on mine it drops it to 1000 and the engine seems like its shivering if that makes any sense?

s0ldats · 02-01-2004, 06:06 PM

my ka seems happiest on the highway within the 2500-3500 range.

**S13SilviaGirl** · 02-01-2004, 07:41 PM

well there are many possibilities to the reason you can start w/out a clutch. 1 could be that your car was previously an automatic, or 2 that someone disconnected the clutch interlock switch.

as for your bogging...give some more info...

Natty · 02-01-2004, 08:07 PM

Are you crusing at 60kph or accelerating when it bogs? Either way, you should be in 3rd gear at that speed, maybe 4th for cruising.
You're gonna damage your rings.

mtbr64 · 02-01-2004, 08:19 PM

no its not that i do it i just wanted to know why it does it? its like the engine vibrates hard because its not in a high rpm
also my car previously had a starter on it but it got taken out could that be the cause of me being able to start the car without the clutch?

Natty · 02-01-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mtbr64

no its not that i do it i just wanted to know why it does it? its like the engine vibrates hard because its not in a high rpm
also my car previously had a starter on it but it got taken out could that be the cause of me being able to start the car without the clutch?

I don't understand what you are saying about the RPM issue. If you are in 5th gear at 60kph, it will shake. Try using 3rd gear.
If by "starter" you mean a remote starter, yeah, that would be the cause of it. For the car to start, you have to acticate the clutch interlock relay, which is done by pressing down the clutche pedal. The previous owner would have to have disabled it in order for the remote starter to work.

old_s13 · 02-01-2004, 09:03 PM

1) the ford probe sucks
2) any manual transmission car should be startable without the use of starter (rolling clutch technique)
3) cars should never be driven at 1,000rpms unless you are an idiot. always keep the rpms over 2000 unless you're idling.

DuffMan · 02-01-2004, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by old_s13

3) cars should never be driven at 1,000rpms unless you are an idiot. always keep the rpms over 2000 unless you're idling.

Well, unless you have a big V8

But on a KA yeah, you need to downshift. KA's seem to shake a lot more than most cars though when they are lugged at low rpm. I'm guessing its because of the long stroke and general imballance of the engine.

mtbr64 · 02-01-2004, 11:01 PM

ok cool its not that i do drive at that rpm im just wondering why it does this
but you guys answered my question thnx for the help boys

02-01-2004, 05:34 PM	#1
mtbr64 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Edmonton Age: 39 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	starting my s13 without using the clutch i would like to know why i can start my s13 without using the clutch also why is it that my car bogs down harcore in 5th gear when im going like 60? is this normal? because the 240sx have a big 5th gear? if you guys could tell my why my car is doing this please do so

02-01-2004, 05:56 PM	#2
typhoonslippery Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 812 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	60kph or mph __________________ CA18 is the only way to go!

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Natty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Are you crusing at 60kph or accelerating when it bogs? Either way, you should be in 3rd gear at that speed, maybe 4th for cruising. You're gonna damage your rings. __________________ 1991 White 240sx Fastback LE, rusty spoiler, weak driveshaft, exhaust rattle.... Rattles are just your cars way of saying 'I love you.'

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02-01-2004, 05:59 PM	#3
mtbr64 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Edmonton Age: 39 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry 60kph? im just wondering because my friend in his probe can drive at 50 in 5th and all it does is drop the rpm to about a 1000 but on mine it drops it to 1000 and the engine seems like its shivering if that makes any sense?

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s0ldats Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: so. cal Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my ka seems happiest on the highway within the 2500-3500 range.

02-01-2004, 08:19 PM	#7
mtbr64 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Edmonton Age: 39 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no its not that i do it i just wanted to know why it does it? its like the engine vibrates hard because its not in a high rpm also my car previously had a starter on it but it got taken out could that be the cause of me being able to start the car without the clutch?

02-01-2004, 09:03 PM	#9
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	1) the ford probe sucks 2) any manual transmission car should be startable without the use of starter (rolling clutch technique) 3) cars should never be driven at 1,000rpms unless you are an idiot. always keep the rpms over 2000 unless you're idling.

02-01-2004, 11:01 PM	#11
mtbr64 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Edmonton Age: 39 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok cool its not that i do drive at that rpm im just wondering why it does this but you guys answered my question thnx for the help boys