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Old 04-26-2013, 06:56 PM   #1
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S14 to R33 conversion bumpers - what's the back look like?

My title might be unclear but I can't edit. Not a "back" bumper, but the back-side or back view of the front bumper.

I've Googled the crap out of the Internet, Zilvia, eBay, even eBay AU and UK, not to mention manufacturer's websites to no avail. I just want to know what the back side of these Duraflex, ViS, and Avance Meito (assuming I'd ever actually find one of those) bumpers look like. Are they just a shell or do they have the stepped lip across the bumper retaining bar (for the 7 bolts) and those slotted holes that are even with the outside of the headlights (where you put the metal backing reinforcements)? Assuming I wanted to reinstall the splash apron, there are 6 or 8 tabs for that too. Are they there or am I on my own having to create half a bumper after spending $300-$400? Before I buy one of these I'd like to know if it's just fit and finish (drilling and trimming) or do I have to wear my engineering/fabrication hat? I just wish the JDM Kouki urethane bumpers weren't on back-order everywhere. That would be so much easier. Don't flame, just drop some knowledge if you can. Thanks in advance.


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Old 04-27-2013, 05:58 AM   #3
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I've Googled the crap out of the Internet, Zilvia, eBay, even eBay AU and UK, not to mention manufacturer's websites to no avail. I just want to know what the back side of these Duraflex, ViS, and Avance Meito (assuming I'd ever actually find one of those) bumpers look like. Are they just a shell or do they have the stepped lip across the bumper retaining bar (for the 7 bolts) and those slotted holes that are even with the outside of the headlights (where you put the metal backing reinforcements)? Assuming I wanted to reinstall the splash apron, there are 6 or 8 tabs for that too. Are they there or am I on my own having to create half a bumper after spending $300-$400? Before I buy one of these I'd like to know if it's just fit and finish (drilling and trimming) or do I have to wear my engineering/fabrication hat? I just wish the JDM Kouki urethane bumpers weren't on back-order everywhere. That would be so much easier. Don't flame, just drop some knowledge if you can. Thanks in advance.
I'm replacing my front bumper and don't know what the back side of the different options looks like. All I can find it the painted, finished side photos of the bumper already mounted. It's what I *don't* see that worries me like this last front bumper I bought. It has no tabs, flanges, or mounting surfaces except to the fenders. That's no good. I'm trying to use the collective knowledge of Zilvians to avoid buying a front bumper, then having to construct the parts of it left off by a lazy manufacturer.
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No, just no... Skyline body pieces do not belong on the S-chassis.

Because they weren't designed for the S14 chassis, you'll have to wear your thinking cap...
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:18 AM   #5
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No, just no... Skyline body pieces do not belong on the S-chassis.

Because they weren't designed for the S14 chassis, you'll have to wear your thinking cap...
not helping. I'm *not* trying to bolt a Skyline urethane OEM bumper on the car. I'm looking at the Vertex kit too. What's the bumper look like from behind? Same goes for Chargespeed Kouki kit or the Duraflex C-speed kit. My question stands whether the bumper is a Kouki replacement, an S-15 conversion, or something one-off entirely. Can anybody tell me or show me what the back-side of the Duraflex, ViS, or other "reputable" manufacturer's S-platform front bumpers are like so I know how much work there is to install one. fit-and-finish vs. handcrafting key parts of the $400 bumper shell because they aren't included.
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Bumpers designed for an specific chassis are made to bolt on using the factory attachment points. Fit and finish isn't always the best and you will have to shave and trim to get the desired fitment around the edges. Some companies are better than others, but all require some work to an extent.

If you don't want to deal with fitment issues, buy OEM and be done with it.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:17 PM   #7
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if money its not an issue, I would suggest to buy a true Vertex Japan front bumper. I've seen them and look really good & true, its interesting how vertex vents actually direct air to areas where cooling its needed.they know what they are doing that's for sure.
Which ever choice you go with, good luck!
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Buy a name brand kit and not have to worry about it. Cheapest kit I'd look into would be Origin or Version Select kits...
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Just ordered an Origin. Thanks for the helpful responses. We're back on track now.
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