Silvia VS RSX

[AmericanBornSilvia]

Any predictions? I live in an area full of ricers, and i am trying to stay away from Hondas and Acuras. I just want to know what the rest of the fourm thinks about this new comer.

American Born Silvia

[gt7152b]

RSX doesn't look too bad and it does have 200 horsies. Cons are wrong wheel drive, probably has poor torque numbers at lower rpm's, and will probably be seen on every block. I suggest buying a 240 and adding a turbo. One of the easier cars to turbo, close to 50% weight ratio, RWD, fair price, low insurance, somewhat of a rarity (esp. S14b). .

[kitoro]

i've already seen 2 rsx's where i live (calgary, Alberta)
anyhoo...

i'd personally stay away from Honda, just cuz in like a month, they'll likely be bringing out the altezza style lights for it and all that ricer stuff... yeesh.
it's not a bad car altogether tho, i-vtec and all dat engineering stuff that all those magazines are slobbering about.

'course if you're looking for FWD, why not go Sentra SE-R this fall, rite? it's 'only' 180hp (spec-V)... but wif modifications, no doubt it'd whoop an RSX anyday.

[LanceS13]

Since Honda has a pretty large "riceboy" following, it's pretty easy to build a sleeper. Everybody expects the fart tipped, slammed, 19" wheeled, body kitted, neon lit, flip-flop painted Civic DX to be faster than the plain jane CRX with a modified GSR motor swap.
But as for the RSX, I really wouldn't mind having the Type S from what I've heard about it. I'm sure a turbo and s/c will soon be out for it soon so that will interesting.  I'd probably rather shoot for the WRX in that price range, though.

(Edited by LanceS13 at 11:17 pm on Aug. 6, 2001)

[kitoro]

that's true...
or why not wait a year or two and slap down $5k more for a LOADED STi or EVO?
can't wait..............

when EVO comes over.......... *droool*
280hp AWD turbo beast ...... sweeeeeeeeet

[drifterx]

i am getting the Evo 7 when it comes... i am in line
once i know it is coming i am going to the dealer and puttting down a deposit for the first one off the lot... that is if i have money... i grad this Xmas and evo is expected to come in Winter 2002 so i should have some money by then

RSX i think looks very high in the middle and has a short body.... making it look kinda stubby.....
anyone agree?
i think it is mad ugly

[kitoro]

totally agree wif you buddy!

eeew.

i luv the EVO 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my friend told me that it doesn't corner as well as the STi does... anyone know if this is true?
but it shouldn't matter... if it doesn't corner as well, force it to... hehehe.. control the car, not let it control you....

man... Calgary better get a Mitsu dealership this year! arghz!!!!!! the only dealership i know of so far is in Vancouver and that's 12 hrs away!!!!!!!! yeesh.

[drifterx]

i would say if they dont get one then fly there and drive one back home....
i dont know if that is true but i know 4wd cornering is hard... especially 4wd drifting... u have to keep your foot on the gas while in the turn unlike the RWD... if it is not as good then i will have to just upgrade it... dont worry
also i agree with controlling the car cuz i always tell people i teach to drive to do that.....
i know i can beat cars with 180 HP or even 200HP in my 155 HP 240sx
so it is all about the skill
beat a girl in a 2000 2.5RS manual... and she can drive too...

[kitoro]

did you beat them in a straight race or......................?

man... i dunno.
i'm contemplating at the moment.
i want a sweet car for after-University.. EVO or S14? EVO or S14?
i like the sound of the EVO rite now cuz i have less mods to do on it since Mitsu's bringing over the loaded 280hp version... but.......... yeesh S14 is so nice too.

[drifterx]

if it comes to the US, it will carry 280HP.... i beat it on straght and in corners....
but alot of cars r out next year.... RX8, WRX STi, Z concept, Porche 911 TT, and a few more....

[kitoro]

i know the EVO will carry 280hp when it comes over.
so i'm guessing Mitsu won't screw over Canada w/ dat either...

anyone know if the misfiring system is street-legal?
that thing can sorta get annoying...

[drifterx]

it will not be legal here in Massachusetts because in our emmission testing, we check for misfires........
but what the ####........ i wonder if it is hard to bolt on and off?
if it is then i'll put it in (well maybe not cuz i dont wanna make my car too agressive looks and sound)
this will be my sedan and my secret racer

[lunatik]

Wow,
The Lancer Evo 7 is going to one bad a** vehicle.  Can't wait for that.  I don't really like the styling of the subaru, too bad the WRX doesn't look like the 2.5rs anymore. But in my oppinion I will wait a bit longer and get the ultimate japanese car the "GTR" if it really does come here to the U.S!

[kitoro]

now... that'd be luvly too!

ppl would ask you: " so what do you drive?"
you can answer: " a godzilla." or " a nissan." or " a GTR." or " a V6." (they'll imagine a mustang or sumthing.) or "a V8."(and they'll think it's a truck)

[matic 240sx]

the rsx looks nasty... i dont like it at all but the 200 hp is a little impressive..

[AmericanBornSilvia]

Well...since Honda uses v-tec..isnt is possible that 200 hp is the max theortical output? Isnt it that it only produces 200 bhp in VTEC range? So take the Civic Si. 160 bhp produced, but thats only in V-tec range. So again, as a former Honda person (maybe a former ricer? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> I still think its all hype.

American Born Silvia

[kitoro]

again, it's prolly just hype just like u said.
which came first... VTEC or VVTC(nissan)?
Toyota just came out wif their VVTi.... so.........

[HaloZ]

HELLO the reg RSX makes like 160 -170 hp

now the type S makes the some what close to 200. typeS is still not that common...

[LanceS13]

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Well...since Honda uses v-tec..isnt is possible that 200 hp is the max theortical output? Isnt it that it only produces 200 bhp in VTEC range? So take the Civic Si. 160 bhp produced, but thats only in V-tec range. So again, as a former Honda person (maybe a former ricer? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> I still think its all hype.

American Born Silvia
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I don't see why this is such a big deal. &quot;It only makes power in VTEC range.&quot; Most cars make max hp within 1000rpm of redline. It's just a way of making high output out of a small displacement engine. And it's not like you can't modify it for more hp. Like I said earlier...somebody will make a turbo for it soon. It's just a different car altogether. They have no torque, but they rev quite easily to stratospheric numbers...something our cars can't do. They both have their pros and cons...to each his own I guess. But I'll always have a place in my heart for both Nissans and Hondas...well, really for all cars for that matter.:)

(Edited by LanceS13 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 12, 2001)

[AmericanBornSilvia]

ah yeah..heh TYPE - S ok...lol ok we have nothing to fear, for rear wheel power is here! mwehhehee &nbsp;wokka wokka wokka

[gt7152b]

American Born Silvia
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I don't see why this is such a big deal. &quot;It only makes power in VTEC range.&quot;
(Edited by LanceS13 at 11:15 pm on Aug. 12, 2001)
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It MAY not be a big deal but it could be that the RSX makes 200 HP at 6500/7000 rpms but produces very little power in the rest of the torque curve. You can't keep an engine within 1000 rpm's of the redline all the time. I think his point was that HP is not the only measure of performance for an engine and I agree. That said, the 45 HP advantage would probably be enough to beat a stock 240SX in a 1/4 mile race.

[anthony240]

those HP numbers are flywheel hp, remember that.

Civic Si = 130whp
Integra GSR = 140whp
S2000 = 195whp

KA s14 = 130whp

the main reason honda's don't put much power to the ground is TORQUE.

Civic Si = 110ft lbs
Integra GSR =120ft lbs
S2000 = 140ft lbs

KA S14 = 160ft lbs

Now, the RSX type-s has 200hp and 140ft lbs, which is not all that bad. So I'm guessing 160-170whp. The normal one (170hp/140ft lbs) is prolly 150whp.

But again, it depends on how you drive your car.

[lunatik]

I hope no one here is planning on trading in your beautiful 240's for an RSX, or any other Honda (Acura). &nbsp;Well maybe an NSX!

[LanceS13]

anthony240...
I don't know about the others, but I think whp for a GS-R is closer to 150-152hp (could be wrong, though). &nbsp;
And torque has little if anything to do with getting power from the flywheel to the ground. &nbsp;It's how efficient the drivetrain is. &nbsp;
And gt7142b, you're right. &nbsp;I've always effectionately called Hondas the torqueless wonders.:biggrin: &nbsp;Like I said, they rev to the moon and make power while ours make good low end torque. &nbsp;They're just a different car altogether. &nbsp;I wish our 240's could keep their low end grunt but have the top end most VTEC Honda's have...that would be great.

[gt7152b]

I've always heard that FWD cars have less parasitic loss through the drivetrain but it would never be a good enough reason for me to own one.

[Jeff240sx]

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I've always heard that FWD cars have less parasitic loss through the drivetrain but it would never be a good enough reason for me to own one. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, they do. &nbsp;But the problem is that all that power they &quot;gain&quot; from less parasitic loss is tossed away when they squeal the tires in the first two gears. &nbsp;My friend's stock Integra does that... and he gets miserable starts. &nbsp;Worse than my auto starting.
-Jeff

[lunatik]

GT I agree, i love rwd. &nbsp;
That was the main reason I bought the 240. &nbsp;I looked at the integras, accords, eclipses, so on, and so forth. &nbsp;But the rwd sold the 240. &nbsp;Plus RWD is more fun to drive in the rain, LOL!

i'm sorry the only car i would trade the 240 in for is an &nbsp;3rd gen rx-7 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
but that s just me

[lunatik]

How about a supra MK4 TT, orlando?

thats a definite maybe <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> rx=7 is the lowest i wuld trade for now SUPRA's those are a comp;et;ey different ballpark