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StopStaringAtMe · 03-02-2014, 09:31 PM

Hey everyone, I know. I know. I probably shouldn't barge in here demanding help on something like this on my second post. But I'm seriously overwhelmed at this point and I really have no idea where to even start with this.

So, heres the story. I have a 1992 S13 Coupe that I accidentally backed into with my truck about 2 1/2 years ago.

After I backed into it, I was trying to save up enough to fix the damage I did, and some douchefaces broke into it and stole my entire sound system, touchscreen headunit, turbo timer, etc.
Then tried to set it on fire......
Anyways, since the car was uninsured when I backed into it and all, I was left to deal with all of the expenses on my own.
Then I had to move out, which made it that much harder to fix the damn car.

So here I am, after almost 2 years of the car just sitting at my dads under a carcover rotting away and desperately needing to be fixed, I'm now ready to start taking care of things. (You kinda get caught up with things in life, you know?)

I have no idea where to even begin.
The driver's rear quarter window was busted out during the break-in, and thus water and animals have taken their toll on the interior of the car, completely saturating everything in mildew and mold. Also, spiders... like, a billion spiders.

Not to mention, the damage I had previously done by backing into my silvia converted front end

The pictures speak for themselves, it's pretty damn bad... So you can see why I have no idea where to go from here. I want to fix it so badly, I miss driving my S13.
So, what should I do; buy a new shell? Figure out a way to pull the front end? Toss the whole interior?
You guys are the pros, I'm here to learn, and I'm open to all sorts of suggestions. Please Be gentle lol.

Also, if I've posted this in the wrong section (like a n00b) please feel free to move it to the correct section.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 03-02-2014, 09:49 PM

The front end is that bad, finding another quarter glass and redoing the interior is gonna fucking suck...get another shell to transfer your stuff over.

heychris · 03-02-2014, 09:51 PM

^^^^^what he said....

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coupesallday! · 03-02-2014, 09:54 PM

Your username is fucken funny for some reason

SamsonS4 · 03-02-2014, 10:49 PM

From the sounds of it even if you never ran into this car and damaged it money is not on your side at the moment. I wouldn't even put this car in your priority if money is this tight at the moment son.

dil han · 03-02-2014, 11:02 PM

cut the front end off and tube it, re align front body panels to fit and make tabs, replace bad wiring or build a body harness yourself, lexan window from Home Depot and you're on the road again. Don't ditch another s chassis making the remaining count fewer and fewer.....

bmxer882x · 03-02-2014, 11:03 PM

What the top post said. Unless you feel like doing a tube chassis up front I would ditch the shell.

simmode1 · 03-03-2014, 10:17 AM

Yeah soooo... Basically... This is not gonna be a cheap fix. How you should go about fixing depends on how much you're able to spend. If you're really in that tight of a hole with money, I'd part it out & start over when you're more stable financially. If your money flow is doing ok, transferring your parts to a cleaner chassis & picking back up where the theives left off by setting it back of fire would be the easy route. Tube chassis front end is an option if you're making it rain out there... Or just patch shit up and call it a missle car like it's 2012 all over again?

OutlawLui · 03-03-2014, 10:24 AM

take your seats out and clean up the interior. scrub that shi* down and vacuum it. Then clean the seats and throw them back in. like they said, tube the front and cut that rad support out. And the quarter glass is easy fix. like they also said, u can use clear acrylic if u want to be cheap

lol that user name is freaking funny though

D.Adams · 03-03-2014, 10:46 AM

the 1/4 window can be had for $50 or if you have glass insurance you might be able to go that way. as for the front end thats all easy stuff. Can be fixed for under $100. Or just tube front the car if you have the abillity to or have a shope do it. interior wise strip it #becauseracecar

silviaks2nr · 03-03-2014, 11:11 AM

Um did you back your truck into it going like 30mph??? Jeezus.
I don't know what kind of thieves set something on fire after breaking into it that sounds more like someone trying to committing insurance fraud (I'm not saying that's what happened but, WTF!) Really sucks. My advice would be to get a clean shell and swap your drivetrain and any interior/suspension bits over to it. Good luck.

supersayianjim · 03-03-2014, 11:41 AM

part it out, start fresh----- no brainer!!

mechanicalmoron · 03-03-2014, 11:52 AM

Don't drink and race your truck backwards, is what I'm taking away from this.

Remove and clean the seats, tube front. Or, in the interim, get a big ass hammer and a come-along, and put the front where it belongs, and worry about further fixing later.

*edit* what kind of retarded thief breaks not only a window, but a quarter window, to get into an s13? I keep a coat hanger under my hood, in case I lock my keys in the car. Frameless windows=no security.

Seraphim38 · 03-03-2014, 11:59 AM

I hate spiders.

Buy a rolling chassis, and or part it out.

Building a car is 10x the cost of buying one already done.

KravingAKouki · 03-03-2014, 12:14 PM

My advice would be to rip out the sr, and everything related. (Trans, IC, everything to make it run properly, maybe driveshaft and diff if they are worth it) Take out what you want to keep. The dash looks like it has no flaws, which is hard to come by, so take that. Take everything that looks nice, and that you know you could use in the new shell. Buy the new shell first, and transfer everything you need/want over first. A rolling shell would be best, that way you can keep your wheels. Then once the new car is up and running, or you have salvaged everything from the old chassis, sell it or part it. Goodluck man, come back even stronger from this!

StopStaringAtMe · 03-03-2014, 02:38 PM

Alright, well it looks like the majority of you are recommending that I just buy another rolling chassis. I guess I'll keep an eye out on craigslist for another coupe. If I do come across another coupe and it isn't equipped with HUD like mine, will it still work if I install the dash and cluster in the new shell? I mean as far as it reflecting off of the windshield. Or will I have to get that fugly little rectangle? Its no big deal if I cant though, I just like my HUD

DJ-of-E · 03-03-2014, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersayianjim

part it out, start fresh----- no brainer!!

Seriously, I'd start with an upgrade of a car. If my 240SX was crashed, I'd start on a different car.

KravingAKouki · 03-03-2014, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StopStaringAtMe

Alright, well it looks like the majority of you are recommending that I just buy another rolling chassis. I guess I'll keep an eye out on craigslist for another coupe. If I do come across another coupe and it isn't equipped with HUD like mine, will it still work if I install the dash and cluster in the new shell? I mean as far as it reflecting off of the windshield. Or will I have to get that fugly little rectangle? Its no big deal if I cant though, I just like my HUD

Your windshield looked fine.. you could re use it if it wasnt cracked. You do not need that little rectangle, it was to just help with glare. You should be fine without it

StopStaringAtMe · 03-03-2014, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KravingAKouki

Your windshield looked fine.. you could re use it if it wasnt cracked. You do not need that little rectangle, it was to just help with glare. You should be fine without it

Oh okay. Thanks man.

KravingAKouki · 03-03-2014, 03:34 PM

just make sure you keep that same engine harness and subharness for it.

simmode1 · 03-03-2014, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Seriously, I'd start with an upgrade of a car. If my 240SX was crashed, I'd start on a different car.

For real. Mazdaspeed Miata, turbo Sky/Solstice, Nissan Z, BMW Z/E36/E46... So many options. Part that ho out and step your game up.

h2v7 · 03-03-2014, 03:42 PM

sell everything parted out and start with something new

you backed into your own car tho that sucks bad nice one

DJ-of-E · 03-03-2014, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1

For real. Mazdaspeed Miata, turbo Sky/Solstice, Nissan Z, BMW Z/E36/E46... So many options. Part that ho out and step your game up.

Great choices. If it were me, I'd go for Toyota MRS (for midship experience/super light), Mazda Miata (cheapest legit race car), or Honda S2000 (perfect stock track car).

Turbo Sky/Solstic is such a nice car for canyon carving.

hotlavaflow · 03-03-2014, 04:26 PM

Seems like it'll cost less to buy a shell (those are pretty cheap) and swap your stuff over. It could also be quicker if you really want to drive now.

BTW those must have been some real noob thieves to actually break a window on a 240 to get it open, esp the rear quarter, that's just strange. They must have had long arms lol.

P.S.
You guys are suggesting all these tuner cars for him to "upgrade" too. He never said he does autoX drift drag etc. maybe he just likes his coupe and just drives...

StopStaringAtMe · 03-03-2014, 04:44 PM

Seriously guys? S chassis > everything else.

Now flame me.

AZRB20 · 03-03-2014, 04:54 PM

Buy a cheap 150 dollar shell and swap everything over

StopStaringAtMe · 03-03-2014, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZRB20

Buy a cheap 150 dollar shell and swap everything over

$150 shell would be awesome. However, everyone in VA is stingy. I'd be lucky to find one for less than $1,000.

simmode1 · 03-03-2014, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StopStaringAtMe

Seriously guys? S chassis > everything else.

Now flame me.

S-chassis is a budget sports car bargain that's hard to beat. But it's hardly the only game in town. Don't mind us old guys. Sometimes we start getting embarrased by the demographic and begin looking at other cars with a more mature pedigree.

AZRB20 · 03-03-2014, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StopStaringAtMe

$150 shell would be awesome. However, everyone in VA is stingy. I'd be lucky to find one for less than $1,000.

Damn, here they're plentiful.. wtf is up with the east coast lol

akaina240 · 03-03-2014, 05:50 PM

go to college, major in computer science, get out with a 60k degree job, toss that shit away, and buy a ls1 s14 for 30k. problem solved.

03-02-2014, 09:49 PM	#2
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	The front end is that bad, finding another quarter glass and redoing the interior is gonna fucking suck...get another shell to transfer your stuff over. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

03-03-2014, 10:24 AM	#9
OutlawLui Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Anaheim CA Age: 38 Posts: 1,491 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	take your seats out and clean up the interior. scrub that shi* down and vacuum it. Then clean the seats and throw them back in. like they said, tube the front and cut that rad support out. And the quarter glass is easy fix. like they also said, u can use clear acrylic if u want to be cheap lol that user name is freaking funny though __________________ .

03-03-2014, 10:46 AM	#10
D.Adams Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lake Havasu City Arizona Age: 41 Posts: 2,587 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	the 1/4 window can be had for $50 or if you have glass insurance you might be able to go that way. as for the front end thats all easy stuff. Can be fixed for under $100. Or just tube front the car if you have the abillity to or have a shope do it. interior wise strip it #becauseracecar __________________ “About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends.” ―Herbert Hoover The build http://zilvia.net/f/builds-builds-on...u-city-az.html Owner of NVS Fabrications

03-03-2014, 11:41 AM	#12
supersayianjim Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: location X Posts: 1,815 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	part it out, start fresh----- no brainer!! __________________ http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/rb...ject-s-rb.html

03-03-2014, 11:52 AM	#13
mechanicalmoron Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: tx Posts: 1,078 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't drink and race your truck backwards, is what I'm taking away from this. Remove and clean the seats, tube front. Or, in the interim, get a big ass hammer and a come-along, and put the front where it belongs, and worry about further fixing later. edit what kind of retarded thief breaks not only a window, but a quarter window, to get into an s13? I keep a coat hanger under my hood, in case I lock my keys in the car. Frameless windows=no security. Last edited by mechanicalmoron; 03-03-2014 at 12:55 PM..

03-02-2014, 09:51 PM	#3
heychris Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SkiTown USA Posts: 760 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	^^^^^what he said.... Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

03-02-2014, 10:49 PM	#5
SamsonS4 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: California love Age: 44 Posts: 117 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	From the sounds of it even if you never ran into this car and damaged it money is not on your side at the moment. I wouldn't even put this car in your priority if money is this tight at the moment son.

03-02-2014, 11:02 PM	#6
dil han Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: My tool box Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	cut the front end off and tube it, re align front body panels to fit and make tabs, replace bad wiring or build a body harness yourself, lexan window from Home Depot and you're on the road again. Don't ditch another s chassis making the remaining count fewer and fewer.....

03-02-2014, 11:03 PM	#7
bmxer882x Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: chandler Age: 31 Posts: 370 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What the top post said. Unless you feel like doing a tube chassis up front I would ditch the shell.

03-03-2014, 10:17 AM	#8
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah soooo... Basically... This is not gonna be a cheap fix. How you should go about fixing depends on how much you're able to spend. If you're really in that tight of a hole with money, I'd part it out & start over when you're more stable financially. If your money flow is doing ok, transferring your parts to a cleaner chassis & picking back up where the theives left off by setting it back of fire would be the easy route. Tube chassis front end is an option if you're making it rain out there... Or just patch shit up and call it a missle car like it's 2012 all over again?

03-03-2014, 11:11 AM	#11
silviaks2nr Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,193 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Um did you back your truck into it going like 30mph??? Jeezus. I don't know what kind of thieves set something on fire after breaking into it that sounds more like someone trying to committing insurance fraud (I'm not saying that's what happened but, WTF!) Really sucks. My advice would be to get a clean shell and swap your drivetrain and any interior/suspension bits over to it. Good luck.

03-03-2014, 11:59 AM	#14
Seraphim38 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 810 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I hate spiders. Buy a rolling chassis, and or part it out. Building a car is 10x the cost of buying one already done. __________________ Mazworks \| HKS \| Greddy \| T4 GTX3076r \| Full Race \| Tial \| SPL \| Feal

03-03-2014, 12:14 PM	#15
KravingAKouki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Not FAILorida Posts: 431 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	My advice would be to rip out the sr, and everything related. (Trans, IC, everything to make it run properly, maybe driveshaft and diff if they are worth it) Take out what you want to keep. The dash looks like it has no flaws, which is hard to come by, so take that. Take everything that looks nice, and that you know you could use in the new shell. Buy the new shell first, and transfer everything you need/want over first. A rolling shell would be best, that way you can keep your wheels. Then once the new car is up and running, or you have salvaged everything from the old chassis, sell it or part it. Goodluck man, come back even stronger from this!

03-03-2014, 02:38 PM	#16
StopStaringAtMe Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Newport News, Va. Age: 33 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright, well it looks like the majority of you are recommending that I just buy another rolling chassis. I guess I'll keep an eye out on craigslist for another coupe. If I do come across another coupe and it isn't equipped with HUD like mine, will it still work if I install the dash and cluster in the new shell? I mean as far as it reflecting off of the windshield. Or will I have to get that fugly little rectangle? Its no big deal if I cant though, I just like my HUD

03-03-2014, 03:34 PM	#20
KravingAKouki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Not FAILorida Posts: 431 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	just make sure you keep that same engine harness and subharness for it.

03-03-2014, 03:42 PM	#22
h2v7 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: san francisco, ohio Posts: 2,194 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	sell everything parted out and start with something new you backed into your own car tho that sucks bad nice one

03-03-2014, 04:26 PM	#24
hotlavaflow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BKLYN NYC Posts: 1,263 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Seems like it'll cost less to buy a shell (those are pretty cheap) and swap your stuff over. It could also be quicker if you really want to drive now. BTW those must have been some real noob thieves to actually break a window on a 240 to get it open, esp the rear quarter, that's just strange. They must have had long arms lol. P.S. You guys are suggesting all these tuner cars for him to "upgrade" too. He never said he does autoX drift drag etc. maybe he just likes his coupe and just drives... __________________

03-03-2014, 04:44 PM	#25
StopStaringAtMe Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Newport News, Va. Age: 33 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Seriously guys? S chassis > everything else. Now flame me.

03-03-2014, 04:54 PM	#26
AZRB20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 109 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Buy a cheap 150 dollar shell and swap everything over

03-03-2014, 05:50 PM	#30
akaina240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Socal Age: 37 Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	go to college, major in computer science, get out with a 60k degree job, toss that shit away, and buy a ls1 s14 for 30k. problem solved.

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