s13gonwild, aka tiresmoke, aka RHDDesign - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

csdcowboy · 07-20-2005, 01:03 AM

I hate to do this, but it's been about a month and a half now, and the last time I heard from him was about a month ago.

I sent him $45 via Paypal for fuel injectors. A week goes by, he says he tried to send them once but some gas leaked out. Fine, no prob. Another week..."Oh it's been a craaaazzzzzy week..." Alright... That was the last I heard from him, and no response about sending either my injectors or money back.

If this can be remedied, I'd be happy to remove this thread.

Sil Beer S13 · 07-20-2005, 01:22 AM

I know him personally.

I traded him front wide fenders for stock ones, wanted to back to stock so he took them, 3 weeks later of waiting becuase i was a good friend, and after threatening to kick his ass he came to my house with fenders that looked like he ran them over a few times.

If i can i will help you get your money back or the product.

Do not buy from s13gonwild, he is very shady and will dick anyone over.

*Jeff240sx* · 07-21-2005, 01:17 AM

This is not what this section is for. Your review needs to be a vote of yes/no to deal with the user, and why/why not.
Seeing as you are in week 3, file a paypal complaint NOW. If you can't (because after 30 days, time's up), file a credit card complaint.
-Jeff

sngx83 · 07-21-2005, 06:57 AM

i had a similar experience to csdcowboy recently- sent paypal, got tons of delays and excuses, and then total lack of communication- so my reccommendation for buying from him would also be a 'no'.

csdcowboy · 07-21-2005, 09:48 AM

Jeff - It's well past the 3 weeks and 30 days...so I'm screwed. And I thought the "no" was implied

.

But to clarify...do NOT buy from s13gonwild!

ALTRNTV · 02-15-2007, 06:37 PM

I will never do business with Steven, aka tiresmokes13 aka s13gonwild. This is his other review thread, but since he no longer uses s13gonwild (now we know why), I thought I'd create a new thread for him. Doesn't deliver on his word, avoids people, an overall shady person.

Here's the link to his other review thread.
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ght=s13gonwild

Rules and Guidelines say I can't flame or make accusations, so I'll let the other review thread and these threads speak for themselves.
Page 1 Page 2 Page 3 Page 4

In other words, I will NEVER do business with him, again.

RHD Design
791 E. Arrow Hwy
Azusa, CA 91702
www.RhdDesign.net

That's his shop address.

cmcdougle · 02-15-2007, 07:29 PM

I have had a very bad experience with him as well. I told what he did to me in the links above. I had major problems with the car I bought from him. I tried to resolve it with him, but now he won't even talk to me, answer phone calls, PMs, posts, etc.

DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH STEVEN!!

DreamDesignParts · 02-15-2007, 07:58 PM

Steven has had his shop for over 1 1/2 years and out of the 100's of customers he has had i have seen only 3-4 complaints. One person said their car broke down 2 weeks after they bought it but I remember those people burning out the driveway as they were leaving the shop, I guess they didn't know how to take care of a car. I'm sure he didn't mean to do whatever he did to make you guys angry toward him and his shop but that is between him and you guys. There will still be more customers that go to his shop and a little post that this isn't going to slow things down. I'm sorry but your issues are not going to be changing anyones mind about Steven or his shop because he has too many loyal customers as it is with many more on the way. Good service + good prices = great company, just sucks that some people try to take advantage of this.

ALTRNTV · 02-16-2007, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamDesignParts

I'm sure he didn't mean to do whatever he did to make you guys angry toward him and his shop but that is between him and you guys. There will still be more customers that go to his shop and a little post that this isn't going to slow things down.

If it's between him and the guys he made angry, then why are you in this thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamDesignParts

I'm sorry but your issues are not going to be changing anyones mind about Steven or his shop because he has too many loyal customers as it is with many more on the way.

If that's the case, why are you so concerned about this then? That's funny though, because Steven called Socheat (sochbat) and asked him if there was anything Socheat can do to delete this thread. I'm not sure why he wants this thread to be deleted if it won't make a difference anyways, the people will still come right?

I actually gave him complements in the other thread, but then came to realize I was wrong:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

Did business with tiresmokes13 and turns out he's a good guy. Did the 5-speed swap on my friend's coupe very nicely and it runs perfect.

I didn't really check the car for problems, since I took everyone's word that he was a legit guy. I'll post pictures of the "ghetto" way he rigs his cars so that they'll run long enough for him to sell.

cmcdougle · 02-19-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamDesignParts

Steven has had his shop for over 1 1/2 years and out of the 100's of customers he has had i have seen only 3-4 complaints. One person said their car broke down 2 weeks after they bought it but I remember those people burning out the driveway as they were leaving the shop, I guess they didn't know how to take care of a car. I'm sure he didn't mean to do whatever he did to make you guys angry toward him and his shop but that is between him and you guys. There will still be more customers that go to his shop and a little post that this isn't going to slow things down. I'm sorry but your issues are not going to be changing anyones mind about Steven or his shop because he has too many loyal customers as it is with many more on the way. Good service + good prices = great company, just sucks that some people try to take advantage of this.

Funny, all 7-8 complaints that I have seen have been in the last 2 months that I have been following this. What a coincidence.

Ricks15 · 02-20-2007, 12:28 AM

My experiences with RHD design Steven have been good I do not have "One" bad thing has happened to my ride nor have I ever got bad service at all. I take my car to steven for installs and critical repairs cuz of a dying and highly abused engine that I got and steve comes through just fine and fixes and replaces what Ive broke. Its funny how there just happens to be some people who dont like how shit goes and they start rambling there shit how of those guys suck cuz this cuz that and then they make a good shop like this look bad. You know if got a issue with a business or person go straight up to them and talk it out before you start with the shit mouthed bashing that allways goes on. I'll continue to go to RHD and get all my cars needs and mods done there cuz there good people.

SochBAT · 02-16-2007, 08:05 PM

DreamCream, pictures are worth a thousand words, thats all it'll come down to. Pics of his work, in general, will make you A) STFU and feel like a moron, B) right, and the rest of the complainees wrong, or C) come to the conclusion that pics will be the final judgment on Steven's work, and leave it up to the good consumer to make his decision based on those.

Now how about stop butting into a review thread, not reviewing the person at hand, sucking balls, and giving your opinions, k?

s13drift240sx · 02-18-2007, 02:28 AM

Still waitin for you to pay me steven

supersonicdrift · 02-18-2007, 12:28 PM

My friend cris went there for a Ka Dual Cam engine swap and to get it turbo'ed. Hey takes forever with it cause he either takes parts from it to use on other cars or just doesnt wanna finish it. In the end the engine he sold him was crap and the turbo setup was leaking oil. Well either way thats why steven never got paid.

BLITZZZ · 02-20-2007, 09:37 AM

ive called him several times and hes very responsive and has helped me out some with a swap

supersonicdrift · 02-20-2007, 01:23 PM

This coming from guys that have negative rep.

allstar · 02-20-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersonicdrift

This coming from guys that have negative rep.

wow.. i have negative rep on zilvia.. big fuckin deal..

supersonicdrift · 02-20-2007, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allstar

wow.. i have negative rep on zilvia.. big fuckin deal..

Wow ur cool too for me. So who else who gots complaints?

hahahahaha · 02-20-2007, 02:45 PM

kkk my rep isnt the greatest and i can tell u hes great been there tons of times and hes a cool guy and his prices are awsome ... so yea...

ALTRNTV · 02-20-2007, 06:18 PM

Funny how most of the people backing him up are his friends. I have new information to pass along, but will wait until I get all of it.

Also, from my other 240sx friends and their friends, they tell me not to do business with him, because he's very shady.

allstar · 02-20-2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

Funny how most of the people backing him up are his friends. I have new information to pass along, but will wait until I get all of it.

Also, from my other 240sx friends and their friends, they tell me not to do business with him, because he's very shady.

funny how u are bad and u posted it 2 times. dude just leave steve alone. if people want to go 2 him, let them. simple as that. dont try and take down his shop by hatin on him.

can i get a LOCK plzzzzzz????

ALTRNTV · 02-20-2007, 06:35 PM

Posted it twice? Hmm... I don't see anything.

Why do you want to lock this? So no more people can write more bad reviews about your friend? A "source" also told me he has no business license. Looks like a call to the BBB is needed.

hahahahaha · 02-20-2007, 06:44 PM

o my god ...... first off i dont know steven that well hes my brothers friend and i still think hes good and he charges very well ...

by the way if i may know how old r u?
do u have anything better to do besides talking about other people .. just a question dont get all mad ...

ALTRNTV · 02-20-2007, 06:48 PM

All you people who keep talking about how low his prices are, isn't the damn point here. We could care less about how much he charges. The point is how he is shady to people and doesn't deliver on his word. He also "mickey-mouses" his cars so that they run long enough to sell. I'm just waiting on some pictures so you all can see.

**Phlip** · 02-20-2007, 07:10 PM

This is a review thread, get back on the topic at hand or shut the fuck up

DreamDesignParts · 02-20-2007, 07:44 PM

Alright I'll post my review of Steven and his shop. I took my car to his shop because one day I was at the Arcadia 240 meet and he was there. One of the guys there had a oil leak or something so Steven stepped up and said that he had a shop in Azusa, being a nice guy and all we all drove over to Stevens shop and the guy called a tow truck to have it towed over there. Steven fixed the car and after words we all went drifting, fun day. From there I had Steven do my KA-T, after about 3 weeks it was finished due to some parts being on back order. The car ran great for another 2 weeks but hey it was a KA-T and I didn't build the motor so I expected it. Other then that I havn't had the money yet to rebuild my motor. Overall Steven is a great person and I refer everyone to go to his shop. I had a great experience there and found nothing negitive. Everday there is anywhere from 6-11 people here just chilling to chill. 110% recommended to anyone having any questions about 240's. He knows hes stuff and his swaps are super clean unlike some other shops that I have seen, because steven doesnt take shortcuts and makes sure everything is a very clean. This is my own personal experience with steven and his shop.

DriftSpecS14 · 03-06-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamDesignParts

. I had Steven do my KA-T, after about 3 weeks it was finished due to some parts being on back order. The car ran great for another 2 weeks but hey it was a KA-T and I didn't build the motor so I expected it. Other then that I havn't had the money yet to rebuild my motor. Overall Steven is a great person and I refer everyone to go to his shop. I had a great experience there and found nothing negitive. Everday there is anywhere from 6-11 people here just chilling to chill. 110% recommended to anyone having any questions about 240's. He knows hes stuff and his swaps are super clean unlike some other shops that I have seen, because steven doesnt take shortcuts and makes sure everything is a very clean. This is my own personal experience with steven and his shop.

hahah 2 weeks>? i'd be pissed did my OWN ka-t on a BONE STOCK engine i mean only a fuel pump and thats it no safc or injectors and its ran PERFECT for over a year now at .5 bar

**Phlip** · 02-21-2007, 11:09 PM

On topic, please, and DreamDesignParts; I understand your stepping up to help a friend with what looks like a "review," but doubt is cast upon the objectivity of your post when I KNOW that you often post from the same IP as Steven....
Don't ya think?

Id RaThEr DrIfT · 02-22-2007, 12:21 AM

been to his shop good guy! helped me out plenty of times ... and yes im his friend now but he helped before he was my friend ...... thank u and have a nice day!

***NiSmO kNiGhTs ***

aNskY · 02-22-2007, 10:54 AM

i (supposedly) bought a gauge from him.... never recieved it. after the first month or so i asked him what was up, he said he sent it but didnt have a tracking number, and since i didnt have it he would send out another. another month goes by so i asked him whats up, and he responds by calling ME rude for looking for shit that i PAID for. yes, it was only a $45 gauge, but thats not the point...... i sure as hell wouldnt send him any more money for anything regardless of the price. what good is a cheap product if you never even get it???

obviously he's not going to blatenly rip off you local people... he's a little bitch who has to do it to people 2000 miles away.

bottom line- NO ONE DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY!!

07-20-2005, 01:03 AM	#1
csdcowboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	s13gonwild, aka tiresmoke, aka RHDDesign I hate to do this, but it's been about a month and a half now, and the last time I heard from him was about a month ago. I sent him $45 via Paypal for fuel injectors. A week goes by, he says he tried to send them once but some gas leaked out. Fine, no prob. Another week..."Oh it's been a craaaazzzzzy week..." Alright... That was the last I heard from him, and no response about sending either my injectors or money back. If this can be remedied, I'd be happy to remove this thread.

07-21-2005, 01:17 AM	#3
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 42 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is not what this section is for. Your review needs to be a vote of yes/no to deal with the user, and why/why not. Seeing as you are in week 3, file a paypal complaint NOW. If you can't (because after 30 days, time's up), file a credit card complaint. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

02-15-2007, 06:37 PM	#6
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tiresmokes13/RHD Design I will never do business with Steven, aka *tiresmokes13* aka s13gonwild. This is his other review thread, but since he no longer uses s13gonwild (now we know why), I thought I'd create a new thread for him. Doesn't deliver on his word, avoids people, an overall shady person. Here's the link to his other review thread. http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...ght=s13gonwild Rules and Guidelines say I can't flame or make accusations, so I'll let the other review thread and these threads speak for themselves. Page 1 Page 2 Page 3 Page 4 In other words, I will NEVER do business with him, again. RHD Design 791 E. Arrow Hwy Azusa, CA 91702 www.RhdDesign.net That's his shop address.

02-15-2007, 07:29 PM	#7
cmcdougle Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 1,361 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have had a very bad experience with him as well. I told what he did to me in the links above. I had major problems with the car I bought from him. I tried to resolve it with him, but now he won't even talk to me, answer phone calls, PMs, posts, etc. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH STEVEN!! __________________

02-20-2007, 12:28 AM	#11
Ricks15 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 39 Posts: 1,661 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My experiences with RHD design Steven have been good I do not have "One" bad thing has happened to my ride nor have I ever got bad service at all. I take my car to steven for installs and critical repairs cuz of a dying and highly abused engine that I got and steve comes through just fine and fixes and replaces what Ive broke. Its funny how there just happens to be some people who dont like how shit goes and they start rambling there shit how of those guys suck cuz this cuz that and then they make a good shop like this look bad. You know if got a issue with a business or person go straight up to them and talk it out before you start with the shit mouthed bashing that allways goes on. I'll continue to go to RHD and get all my cars needs and mods done there cuz there good people. __________________

07-20-2005, 01:22 AM	#2
Sil Beer S13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chino!...NOT CHINO HILLS! Age: 43 Posts: 1,117 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know him personally. I traded him front wide fenders for stock ones, wanted to back to stock so he took them, 3 weeks later of waiting becuase i was a good friend, and after threatening to kick his ass he came to my house with fenders that looked like he ran them over a few times. If i can i will help you get your money back or the product. Do not buy from s13gonwild, he is very shady and will dick anyone over.

07-21-2005, 06:57 AM	#4
sngx83 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i had a similar experience to csdcowboy recently- sent paypal, got tons of delays and excuses, and then total lack of communication- so my reccommendation for buying from him would also be a 'no'.

07-21-2005, 09:48 AM	#5
csdcowboy Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jeff - It's well past the 3 weeks and 30 days...so I'm screwed. And I thought the "no" was implied . But to clarify...do NOT buy from s13gonwild!

02-15-2007, 07:58 PM	#8
DreamDesignParts Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Steven has had his shop for over 1 1/2 years and out of the 100's of customers he has had i have seen only 3-4 complaints. One person said their car broke down 2 weeks after they bought it but I remember those people burning out the driveway as they were leaving the shop, I guess they didn't know how to take care of a car. I'm sure he didn't mean to do whatever he did to make you guys angry toward him and his shop but that is between him and you guys. There will still be more customers that go to his shop and a little post that this isn't going to slow things down. I'm sorry but your issues are not going to be changing anyones mind about Steven or his shop because he has too many loyal customers as it is with many more on the way. Good service + good prices = great company, just sucks that some people try to take advantage of this.

02-16-2007, 08:05 PM	#12
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 39 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	DreamCream, pictures are worth a thousand words, thats all it'll come down to. Pics of his work, in general, will make you A) STFU and feel like a moron, B) right, and the rest of the complainees wrong, or C) come to the conclusion that pics will be the final judgment on Steven's work, and leave it up to the good consumer to make his decision based on those. Now how about stop butting into a review thread, not reviewing the person at hand, sucking balls, and giving your opinions, k?

02-18-2007, 02:28 AM	#13
s13drift240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: California Posts: 227 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Still waitin for you to pay me steven __________________

02-18-2007, 12:28 PM	#14
supersonicdrift BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario , So-Cal Age: 45 Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My friend cris went there for a Ka Dual Cam engine swap and to get it turbo'ed. Hey takes forever with it cause he either takes parts from it to use on other cars or just doesnt wanna finish it. In the end the engine he sold him was crap and the turbo setup was leaking oil. Well either way thats why steven never got paid.

02-20-2007, 09:37 AM	#15
BLITZZZ BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 134 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive called him several times and hes very responsive and has helped me out some with a swap

02-20-2007, 01:23 PM	#16
supersonicdrift BANNED Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario , So-Cal Age: 45 Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This coming from guys that have negative rep.

02-20-2007, 02:45 PM	#19
hahahahaha Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Califonia Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kkk my rep isnt the greatest and i can tell u hes great been there tons of times and hes a cool guy and his prices are awsome ... so yea...

02-20-2007, 06:18 PM	#20
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Funny how most of the people backing him up are his friends. I have new information to pass along, but will wait until I get all of it. Also, from my other 240sx friends and their friends, they tell me not to do business with him, because he's very shady.

02-20-2007, 06:35 PM	#22
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Posted it twice? Hmm... I don't see anything. Why do you want to lock this? So no more people can write more bad reviews about your friend? A "source" also told me he has no business license. Looks like a call to the BBB is needed.

02-20-2007, 06:44 PM	#23
hahahahaha Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Califonia Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	o my god ...... first off i dont know steven that well hes my brothers friend and i still think hes good and he charges very well ... by the way if i may know how old r u? do u have anything better to do besides talking about other people .. just a question dont get all mad ...

02-20-2007, 06:48 PM	#24
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All you people who keep talking about how low his prices are, isn't the damn point here. We could care less about how much he charges. The point is how he is shady to people and doesn't deliver on his word. He also "mickey-mouses" his cars so that they run long enough to sell. I'm just waiting on some pictures so you all can see.

02-20-2007, 07:10 PM	#25
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	This is a review thread, get back on the topic at hand or shut the fuck up __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

02-20-2007, 07:44 PM	#26
DreamDesignParts Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright I'll post my review of Steven and his shop. I took my car to his shop because one day I was at the Arcadia 240 meet and he was there. One of the guys there had a oil leak or something so Steven stepped up and said that he had a shop in Azusa, being a nice guy and all we all drove over to Stevens shop and the guy called a tow truck to have it towed over there. Steven fixed the car and after words we all went drifting, fun day. From there I had Steven do my KA-T, after about 3 weeks it was finished due to some parts being on back order. The car ran great for another 2 weeks but hey it was a KA-T and I didn't build the motor so I expected it. Other then that I havn't had the money yet to rebuild my motor. Overall Steven is a great person and I refer everyone to go to his shop. I had a great experience there and found nothing negitive. Everday there is anywhere from 6-11 people here just chilling to chill. 110% recommended to anyone having any questions about 240's. He knows hes stuff and his swaps are super clean unlike some other shops that I have seen, because steven doesnt take shortcuts and makes sure everything is a very clean. This is my own personal experience with steven and his shop.

02-21-2007, 11:09 PM	#28
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	On topic, please, and DreamDesignParts; I understand your stepping up to help a friend with what looks like a "review," but doubt is cast upon the objectivity of your post when I KNOW that you often post from the same IP as Steven.... Don't ya think? __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

02-22-2007, 12:21 AM	#29
Id RaThEr DrIfT Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: socal Posts: 845 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	been to his shop good guy! helped me out plenty of times ... and yes im his friend now but he helped before he was my friend ...... thank u and have a nice day! *NiSmO kNiGhTs * __________________ "WhEn SoMeOnE yOu DoNt KnOw HaTeS yOu ThAtS wHeN yOu KnOw YoUr ThE bEsT"

02-22-2007, 10:54 AM	#30
aNskY Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY Age: 41 Posts: 1,604 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i (supposedly) bought a gauge from him.... never recieved it. after the first month or so i asked him what was up, he said he sent it but didnt have a tracking number, and since i didnt have it he would send out another. another month goes by so i asked him whats up, and he responds by calling ME rude for looking for shit that i PAID for. yes, it was only a $45 gauge, but thats not the point...... i sure as hell wouldnt send him any more money for anything regardless of the price. what good is a cheap product if you never even get it??? obviously he's not going to blatenly rip off you local people... he's a little bitch who has to do it to people 2000 miles away. bottom line- NO ONE DO BUSINESS WITH THIS GUY!!

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