NEW Bolt on Part for KA24DE owners

[TurDz]

That's pretty cool to be able to achieve 90% peak torque by 2400RPM.

[McRussellPants]

Thats pretty cool to be able to fit your entire mods list in your sig.

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Thats pretty cool to be able to fit your entire mods list in your sig.

OH No's! Bragging rights.

[LB.Motoring]

Bahaha,

homos.

[s13gold]

nice one........

[Iceman00]

I'm still waiting for A Good Negitive reason not to get this. So far, its just been flames.

[s13speeddrft]

because you could have one made for less money.....

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by s13speeddrft

because you could have one made for less money.....

ditto

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by S14DB

ditto

Wait. First it was a Bad mouth the mod

Originally Posted by S14DB

KA does NOT need more plenum volume.
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And Now you can Get if of Cheaper. Right. You an make your own intake too...

Originally Posted by Jesus

The pictures in my initial post are of the pressed phenolic w/ aluminum TBS.
Through Ace Precision's tests they found that with this design they are able to dissipate heat more efficiently than with the solid aluminum TBS. They manufactured this design in the process of working with me to develop the KA24DE TBS. So our application was the first to have this option.

Using aluminum isn't enough apperently.

Originally Posted by Asleep

phenolic is a composite material. picture particle board but made from a much heavier style impregnated resin type material instead of wood...

no problem. its a great material for things like this. it conducts heat well and is very durable. its like using wood but much better since it holds its shape well and is extremely hard. even cutting it requires proper gear...

And they make he spacer for other motors inclding the SR, VQ, and QR. Here is a QR's dyno gains

http://www.b15sentra.net/forums/show...=134693&page=4

[slow40]

Originally Posted by Iceman00

I'm still waiting for A Good Negitive reason not to get this. So far, its just been flames.

let it go...

[kenversusryu]

Originally Posted by bumbleBtuna

let it go...

forealz.

If you want one so bad go get one. To each his own.

[BigVinnie]

Basic fluid dynamic principles involved, but only small gains...
Not worth $60 for a spacer. All it does is increase plenum volume.
Better off with a 62mm bored TB from max bore and porting the plenum yourself more gains across the board than a spacer can offer.
When will some one stop making cheap fabricated parts for the KA and just redesign a whole new manifold with short runners since that is what it needs for more HP and high end rev?

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by BigVinnie

Basic fluid dynamic principles involved, but only small gains...
Not worth $60 for a spacer. All it does is increase plenum volume.
Better off with a 62mm bored TB from max bore and porting the plenum yourself more gains across the board than a spacer can offer.
When will some one stop making cheap fabricated parts for the KA and just redesign a whole new manifold with short runners since that is what it needs for more HP and high end rev?

Good answer, but I've seen test prove that there really is no gain in Larger TB. But for 60 bucks, and that large or an Increase down low, I think its Worth it. And Its not just something N/A guys can use.

As for your manifold Idea, for the cost of devlopment and Production, I doubt many people would buy it.

[BigVinnie]

Originally Posted by Iceman00

Good answer, but I've seen test prove that there really is no gain in Larger TB.

If you couldn't tell 62mm is the norm on most newer production model nissan, and Honda 4 bangers.Last I recall my friends H22 uses a 62mm TB....Obviously there are gains or the OEM guy's wouldn't be using them to begin with.LOL
Besides larger TB will lean out my already rich stock ecu tune, it doesn't hurt till you try it....

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by BigVinnie

If you couldn't tell 62mm is the norm on most newer production model nissan, and Honda 4 bangers.Last I recall my friends H22 uses a 62mm TB....Obviously there are gains or the OEM guy's wouldn't be using them to begin with.LOL
Besides larger TB will lean out my already rich stock ecu tune, it doesn't hurt till you try it....

Most manual Guys on the Altima boards (93-97) swap an Auto throttle body for thiers (Auto is 60mm, and manual is 55) they feel a gain, but I never heard of it being huge. All 97 1/2 + altimas have a 60mm tb. You really think they are going to notice a gain of 2mm?

As For the ECU, check the sig.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Don't an assload of people here strip their cars to make them faster?

Yeah, it's free but how much "horsepower" do you gain by doing so?

$60 isn't much to increase dig out of corners. What, have you already spent it on your vinyl budget? I don't endorse this product, hell, I haven't even looked at it but I'm just saying that every little bit increases drive out of corners, which is exactly what NA KA powered cars need. Either that or a decent suspension so cornering speeds would be higher... you know what, I think I'll support the suspension a little more. Save up and buy some decent pieces for your suspension, you weak bastards.

My engine mods would take less than a line to write out.

[Thorpedo]

why don't mods take care of posters like mcrusselpants and others in these types of threads? all they do is downplay everything and waste space. people who say useless bs in other threads get handled with, why isnt this the same?

if the dynos are accurate, which i believe they are, this piece would be great for anyone with a stock manifold setup. whats the reason for people saying its shit?

they've been using the same technology in domestics and pretty much everything for a long time. it works. done and done.

[jobestudios]

Because it's rediculously overpriced, it doesn't yield enough gains to be considered worthwhile. And don't say every little piece helps in the long run, because in the long run if you're going to do an all out build, you're going to have an aftermarket intake manifold / throttle body, not a plasticardboard spacer.

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by jobestudios

Because it's rediculously overpriced, it doesn't yield enough gains to be considered worthwhile. And don't say every little piece helps in the long run, because in the long run if you're going to do an all out build, you're going to have an aftermarket intake manifold / throttle body, not a plasticardboard spacer.

Oh please, How many people do an All out build? So Far, I think the quickest N/A Ka on our site is Faster than the Quickest N/A 240sx on this site. And He was running a Stock manifold.

[cmcdougle]

Bypassing the coolant? It's there for a reason.

There is also a reason that they used gaskets instead of o-rings.

This sounds like a cheeseball mod that, while it gives you an extra like 2 horsepower, screws up your engine at the same time.

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by cmcdougle

Bypassing the coolant? It's there for a reason.

There is also a reason that they used gaskets instead of o-rings.

This sounds like a cheeseball mod that, while it gives you an extra like 2 horsepower, screws up your engine at the same time.

So tell me, what was the Reason it was there for?

[cmcdougle]

Originally Posted by Iceman00

So tell me, what was the Reason it was there for?

Uhhhh, to keep it cool, maybe?

Originally Posted by Iceman00

Oh please, How many people do an All out build? So Far, I think the quickest N/A Ka on our site is Faster than the Quickest N/A 240sx on this site. And He was running a Stock manifold.

Who wants to build an NA KA?

Originally Posted by Iceman00

Please, tell me how his motor will blow up from going from a 10w30 to 5w30. You seem to be a smart guy, full of one-liners, contradictions, and idiocy.

SHOW me I'm wrong.

And Your rep System Means SHIT to me considering you're still in the green.

Use 20/50 in warm climates for improved efficiancy.




You guys. . .

[BigVinnie]

Originally Posted by cmcdougle

Use 20/50 in warm climates for improved efficiancy.

Slight correction on efficiency here.
A thinner oil such as a 0w or a 5w is as thin as it gets. OEM manufacturers now recommend using a 5w-30 for it's mild range in REGULAR AVERAGE driving conditions for gasoline powered engines. These lighter oils do improve fuel efficiency as well as probably a fraction of a HP. NASCAR uses 0w~5w-30 for maximum efficiency in HP. But once temperatures reach there limit the engines will only last lets say one race duration or 500miles on the track.
Newer hybrid vehicles use 0w~5w, but then again not much power or high temperatures coming from these engines either since energy from the electrical engine is used as well. This type of oil is also used to increase the gas mileage of the gas engine in hybrids.
As far as using a 10w-40, I live in California where temperatures range from 40degrees in the winter to 100degrees in the summer on average during the year.I typically don't need a 5W and it generally wont increase my fuel efficiency either. So what I was looking for was a oil that will react well to the variant temperatures of my high heat engine as well outside temperature. Also dealing with variant heat ranges to keep my oil pressure high rather than low, which is something a lot of people don't pay attention to when doing there regular oil changes. The Real key is to look for an oil that is best suited for your engine, to keep oil pressure high, maintaining HP, as well as fuel efficiency. You don't always have to follow what OEM says either, since they design engines for regular average driving conditions and temperature, which obviously vary in different locations around the world.

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by cmcdougle

Uhhhh, to keep it cool, maybe?

WRONG.


Who wants to build an NA KA?

Apperently, many people considering there is a Sticky at the top of this Forum about it.





Use 20/50 in warm climates for improved efficiancy.

Says? I don't agree. I'm Sure My owners Manual says use "power saving" 5w-30 year round.


You guys. . .

I'm still waiting for the guy who said I'm wrong to come here and post

[soreballz]

Originally Posted by cmcdougle

Uhhhh, to keep it cool, maybe?

Roffles. No. Coolant is hot. Hot liquid around the TB = heated intake charge.
Us SoCal (and other places where temps don't go into the freezing range) don't need those TB coolant lines. IIRC (don't quote me on this), they are only there to keep the throttle plate from freezing in place. I could be wrong on that, though.

[Dream240]

Originally Posted by soreballz

Roffles. No. Coolant is hot. Hot liquid around the TB = heated intake charge.
Us SoCal (and other places where temps don't go into the freezing range) don't need those TB coolant lines. IIRC (don't quote me on this), they are only there to keep the throttle plate from freezing in place. I could be wrong on that, though.

Your half right, The coolant line is in place to warm up the TB to operating temps in cold conditions and then allow it to cool during hotter driving times. At times when the ambient air us upwards of 100 degrees (CA summers), the coolant that passes through allows a way for engine created heat and ambient air created heat to escape instead of overheating the TB and thus heating up the air that passes through it even more.

[irax]

can you make one for my 5mge 87 cressida?

[Iceman00]

Originally Posted by irax

can you make one for my 5mge 87 cressida?

I don't know if you're joking or not, But I don't make them, ACE Performance Does. They have done it for a number of nissan motors.

[irax]

i'm actualy serious this stupid thing is supposed to be my daily driver,
and its got freaking horrible gas milage and i did EVERYTHING from timing, spark plugs, air filter, tirepressure, EVERTHING! I will be lucky enough to get 19 mpg right now. And if people have been reporting better gas milage then shoot 60 bucks is waay beter than 150 for that tornado thas is proven to not do anything.

[Iceman00]

WHAT?! The Tornado has been proven to Do something!
(like be a total waste of cash)

IF what everyone is saying is true, a machine shop could make one for you for 12 bucks