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01-10-2008, 05:30 PM | #61 |
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Another thing to remember is the complexity of the electronics in our cars. With a muscle car, you can drop a crate engine, tweak the carb, and have a sick set up. I'll be surprised if you can even find a stock ECU for our car in 20 years.
Muscle cars also came from the factory with HUGE displacement engines. Not a 2.4 litre truck engine. Muscle cars were sold to the most grizzly rednecks you can imagine. The 240SX was sold to moms going through a mid-life crisis that needed a cute coupe. I never plan on selling mine but if I did I wouldn't be expecting more than $5K for it, even modified.
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01-10-2008, 05:31 PM | #62 | |
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#4 yes just 240sx's |
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01-10-2008, 05:35 PM | #63 | |
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back on topic Im hoping they do, here is a pic you wont see often 2 silver moss koukis next to each other. here are my two future classics, my 98 smoss and 83 280zx turbo 5sp fully loaded,(not many of the around either.) |
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01-10-2008, 05:45 PM | #64 |
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^^^ that reminds me of my 1st car, 1979 280ZX. That was the 1st year of the zX, X meaning fuel injected. The 79' got all sorta options: Cruise control, A/C, auto up/down power windows, lumbar support, and of course a massive 21 gal fuel tank appealing to the touring crowd. I owned a 2+2 model** The 79 was also one of the slowest models as they tuned it quite a bit better in the earlier models that were running dual carbs. Good times Def a collector car.
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01-10-2008, 07:33 PM | #66 | |
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Nissan and Yamaha were working on the Father or mother of the 240z and came to heads on the design. Project was dropped over a disagreement. Yamaha took its engine design and body ideas coming off the Nissan project to Toyota and you got the 2000GT. Meanwhile Nissan decided to restart the Fairlady Z project and brought Mr Katayama into the picture the 240z was born. It sold in record amounts in the United States for a Foreign built sports car, costing only 4k for a 2350lb, IRS, rack and pinion steering, 150hp sports car. (original weight pre crash safety standards 70- early 72) Clearing over 170k units sold by 1973. Though that may seem like not that much by todays sales standards back in the 70's for a sports car those numbers were phenomenal. Its a classic in every sense. Its funny Yuri still keeps avoiding mentioning it (the 240Z)even though he mentions the 350z lol. OH OH wait he did say he would buy a refurbed one if they did that. Hmmmm hehehhehehhehe Oh ya and first two years of 240sx sales in the U.S. were actually decent for a entry level sports car as well selling 60k units per year. No Honda civic numbers or 10 years and running Mazda Miata numbers but very respectable especially when compared to previous S12 sales numbers. One more note the current Fairlady aka 350z is already being considered a classic in Japan its huge in sales and has dwarfed the G35.
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Definitely vert's. They're rare as fuck now, imagine in 40 years. But really their all gunna be pretty rare cars because so many of them are getting used up and wrecked up in either drifting, touge racing, or autocross/track events.
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I see where people are saying verts, but I still think kouki's because it's technically the rarest and probably wrecked more than verts. I always see old mom's driving around in verts rather than kouki's. And verts are older as of now add those years onto the kouki and you'll probably get the same if not more rarity due to less production numbers in the US.
And I have a 98 with what used to be all matching numbers until I took off the hood... |
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cause worldwide I think the rarest kouki is a silver S14 Silvia
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240s are great and all, but i have a 2 owner, clean titled red 99 civic si bundled away in storage.
by the time im 50 and ready to retire, there will be no si's left, just clones and stolen parts but i feel that 2 tone coupes will draw a bit of money, and not verts. verts are pretty damn plentiful. i see a ton of them all the time, even up here in the cold north east, and rarely see 2 tones. i can count on 1 hand actually. |
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A Black base model doesn't seem that rare.
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only if i see an old 71 or 72 datsun Z on the auction first than i think it could happen, and i know i wont have to worry about it, because I am never gogin to be without an s chasis car.
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01-12-2008, 10:25 PM | #75 | |
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estimates place the production numbers for silver moss koukis at around 300 out of the total production number of ~2100 for the 1998 year model, dont quote me on that though. |
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01-12-2008, 10:36 PM | #76 |
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Ok the vert people have a point for a very important reason. Americans love verts. All old verts no matter what make go for bank these days. It's easy to to see 240sx verts being worth a lot strictly based on the vert factor. Now two tone coupes have some possibilities but the most likely 240sx to become a collectors car in the U.S. will most likely be the verts because they are verts. This is using logic based on whats happened with other cars sold as verts.
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I could list a half dozen sports cars from the 60's and 70's that while sports that were liked by enthusiasts and had followings did not become real collectors items or heralded classics. Remember the 240sx was not that much of a hit in the U.S. due to the way Nissan NA marketed it. It could be forgotten in my opinion though I could be wrong. Sure its the most modified car according to SEMA but it takes a lot more than that to make a classic or a collectors item. Shuts devils advocate mode off, steps out to get a Pizza.
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01-12-2008, 11:52 PM | #80 | |
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what parallels do the two cars have to conclude this?
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01-13-2008, 12:21 AM | #81 |
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Eh, clean S13 Silvias are starting to become a rarity/ collectors item here... You don't see them too often anymore... The ones you usually do see are beat down Q's though....
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mustang: the classic pony car. power and stunning looks.
maverick: the cheap, shitty alternative to the classic. less power, less good looks. mustang is to maverick as 300z is to 240sx.
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i dont agree with that at all. i prefer 240 over fat heavy hard to work on 300zx's, and i think 240's look a lot better too. |
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and as far as the rare=collector's item deal, well remember sterling? acura and rover made a car for the states. good like finding one. but guess what, they're freaking worthless. so yeah rare hardly means its a collectible.
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01-13-2008, 08:12 AM | #86 |
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I can promise you guys that the 240sx will not be remembered in the mainstream in 20 years. It'll go the way of the Izusu Impulse.
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01-13-2008, 09:35 AM | #88 | |
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It'll have a small, die hard fan base like the Starion/ Conquest. |
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01-13-2008, 02:33 PM | #90 |
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Sooner or later, 240 owners will move up to the 350z, and the cycle will continue. If we woke up tomorrow and every car manufacturer stopped making RWD cars THEN I would say a 240 may increase in value a grand or two if it was stock and clean.
Think about it this way: You've just got a decent paying job, and you're looking to buy a car. You remember your mad tyte drifta days and consider looking at old 240SXs. You find a few, all with dented body panels, and all with hack job swaps. For the same price you find a RWD coupe that is brand new, comes with more power, and would be more reliable. Which would you go with?
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