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projekt_s13 · 06-07-2008, 01:31 PM

Wow gas is fucking cheap! I just filled up at 4.65 a gallon.

Ive seen that before around here, there is this gas station near my old job that gives you a discount if you pay in cash. Which is pretty cool, like lets say gas is 4.20a gallon and you give the dude 40 bucks he types in that you gave him 41-42 bucks so you get more gas.

**Phlip** · 06-07-2008, 02:02 PM

According to the Mastercard Merchant Violation form:
http://www.mastercard.com/us/persona...iolations.html
charging a minimum amount to be allowed to use MC -AND- charging more for the use of the card are against the rules, so I reported them.
The fact here is that the fees that MC and Visa charge merchants, as well as that paypal fee, are THE COST OF FUCKING DOING BUSINESS!!! If someone disputes a charge on paypal and someone requested the buyer to add the fee, then the dispute would almost automatically go to the buyer.

RiversideS13 · 06-07-2008, 02:37 PM

my exgirlfriend's family owns gas station, their profit margin per gallon is from 1 cent to 16 cents depend on how you mark your price, so the credit card fee does hurts the profit margin. you might wonder how they get rich from 1 cent profit margin, money is earned by rebates from the fuel company when they sell to a certain quota and also traffics in the snack stores.

they didn't do this cash thing because credit card transaction is easier for them to manage

i just past by a gas station marked $4.90 for 91 octane

atom · 06-07-2008, 03:29 PM

I see this all the time at computer stores. Discounts for cash purchases. Note that this is legally different than charging someone for using a credit card, although the result is more or less the same. I don't have a problem with it for low profit margin businesses.

I10cruiser · 06-07-2008, 04:47 PM

yeah they charge you to use a card. .nice plot to get you inside the store and pay cash plus trick you and sell you stuff!

!Zar! · 06-07-2008, 04:55 PM

blah blah blah I've seen gas stations do that before.

slidingsky · 06-07-2008, 08:49 PM

They've been doing it will diesel since it turned over 3.00 per gallon. Major and independent gas stations.

LeftNutOfGowd · 06-09-2008, 09:20 AM

Man i wish gas was $3.89 here im paying $4.66 this s**t's ridiculous, and they say it might go up to $5.00 by the end of june that means it will take $75.00 to fill my tank

qwikspool · 06-09-2008, 09:28 AM

there was a 76 gas station over here last year that charged .10 cents extra for using credit card at their pump.
right now they are getting renovated
first gas stationed i seen that charge so much to use credit cards at their pump.

just1pepsi · 06-09-2008, 10:15 AM

I know stores get charged a fee based on the amount swiped, the higher the amount, the higher the fee. With Gasoline I understand that the station itself doesnt make much profit on it. Therefore you would have the potential for a station paying more in fees to Visa/MC/etc for someone paying with their card than the profit they make on the gas. Of course they will pass the cost on to the consumer. --another way high gas prices are jacking up the price of everything else.

I guess its legal?

Nevermind, I guess I dont know wtf I'm talking about.. the fee part was heresay, evidently other more knowledgable folks have chimed in. I guess its the same idea though.

Bobafreak · 06-09-2008, 10:29 AM

Yeah paying 4.60 for gas last weekend was not the business. Im looking about buying a street bike now.

hustlervibes · 06-09-2008, 02:59 PM

I haven't read throught his whole thread, but judging from the earlier posts saying it is or isn't legal.

From what I know it IS legal because they get less profit from customers who use credit cards because they have to go through the credit card companies and get charged a processing fee or whatever. There is shell I've seen that even does that. And they can do whatever they want.

HyperTek · 06-09-2008, 03:08 PM

I never carry cash on me because with cash, im tempted to buy dumb shit or blow my cash... So i use my debt card.

Maybe if i just go to my bank and do withdrawals, I can avoid extra card charges... but that equals more time waiting in lines at gas stations, and possibility of loose change, which would affect my overal budget since i suck at keeping loose change and drop em in my car or loose em... etc * who the hell keeps track of their pennies and nickels?.. besides old people*

BustedS13 · 06-11-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

I never carry cash on me because with cash, im tempted to buy dumb shit or blow my cash... So i use my debt card.

Maybe if i just go to my bank and do withdrawals, I can avoid extra card charges... but that equals more time waiting in lines at gas stations, and possibility of loose change, which would affect my overal budget since i suck at keeping loose change and drop em in my car or loose em... etc * who the hell keeps track of their pennies and nickels?.. besides old people*

i'm the exact same way. i used to think paying with cash was great because i could save the can in a jar and then cash it in later for a good chunk to throw in my checking account. but if i just buy everything with my debit... the change is auto saved and i just... have money.

the old bag at walgreens gives me the stink eye when i buy a 99 cent can of Arizona with my debit card, of course. but fuck her, plastic is the future.

calico · 06-11-2008, 04:50 PM

i'd like to see an update from PHLIP in a couple weeks since he said he reported the gas station... i hope they burn in hell!

06-07-2008, 01:31 PM	#1
projekt_s13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chico/Pittsburg, CA Age: 39 Posts: 2,801 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: projekt_s13 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Wow gas is fucking cheap! I just filled up at 4.65 a gallon. Ive seen that before around here, there is this gas station near my old job that gives you a discount if you pay in cash. Which is pretty cool, like lets say gas is 4.20a gallon and you give the dude 40 bucks he types in that you gave him 41-42 bucks so you get more gas. __________________

06-07-2008, 02:02 PM	#2
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	According to the Mastercard Merchant Violation form: http://www.mastercard.com/us/persona...iolations.html charging a minimum amount to be allowed to use MC -AND- charging more for the use of the card are against the rules, so I reported them. The fact here is that the fees that MC and Visa charge merchants, as well as that paypal fee, are THE COST OF FUCKING DOING BUSINESS!!! If someone disputes a charge on paypal and someone requested the buyer to add the fee, then the dispute would almost automatically go to the buyer. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

06-07-2008, 04:47 PM	#5
I10cruiser Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: los angeles Age: 36 Posts: 3,053 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: I10cruiser Feedback Score: 47 reviews	yeah they charge you to use a card. .nice plot to get you inside the store and pay cash plus trick you and sell you stuff! __________________

06-07-2008, 04:55 PM	#6
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	blah blah blah I've seen gas stations do that before. __________________

06-09-2008, 10:29 AM	#11
Bobafreak Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 909 Posts: 2,207 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	Yeah paying 4.60 for gas last weekend was not the business. Im looking about buying a street bike now. __________________ *VIOLENT RUNNING TRIBE* "Love is god, hatin is satin!"

06-07-2008, 02:37 PM	#3
RiversideS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Diamond Bar, CA Age: 43 Posts: 1,545 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my exgirlfriend's family owns gas station, their profit margin per gallon is from 1 cent to 16 cents depend on how you mark your price, so the credit card fee does hurts the profit margin. you might wonder how they get rich from 1 cent profit margin, money is earned by rebates from the fuel company when they sell to a certain quota and also traffics in the snack stores. they didn't do this cash thing because credit card transaction is easier for them to manage i just past by a gas station marked $4.90 for 91 octane

06-07-2008, 03:29 PM	#4
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I see this all the time at computer stores. Discounts for cash purchases. Note that this is legally different than charging someone for using a credit card, although the result is more or less the same. I don't have a problem with it for low profit margin businesses.

06-07-2008, 08:49 PM	#7
slidingsky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia Age: 43 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: slidingsky Feedback Score: 3 reviews	They've been doing it will diesel since it turned over 3.00 per gallon. Major and independent gas stations.

06-09-2008, 09:20 AM	#8
LeftNutOfGowd Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: O.C Age: 38 Posts: 2,515 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man i wish gas was $3.89 here im paying $4.66 this s**t's ridiculous, and they say it might go up to $5.00 by the end of june that means it will take $75.00 to fill my tank

06-09-2008, 09:28 AM	#9
qwikspool Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Murrieta, CA Posts: 1,912 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	there was a 76 gas station over here last year that charged .10 cents extra for using credit card at their pump. right now they are getting renovated first gas stationed i seen that charge so much to use credit cards at their pump.

06-09-2008, 10:15 AM	#10
just1pepsi Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: OKC Age: 42 Posts: 657 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know stores get charged a fee based on the amount swiped, the higher the amount, the higher the fee. With Gasoline I understand that the station itself doesnt make much profit on it. Therefore you would have the potential for a station paying more in fees to Visa/MC/etc for someone paying with their card than the profit they make on the gas. Of course they will pass the cost on to the consumer. --another way high gas prices are jacking up the price of everything else. I guess its legal? Nevermind, I guess I dont know wtf I'm talking about.. the fee part was heresay, evidently other more knowledgable folks have chimed in. I guess its the same idea though.

06-09-2008, 02:59 PM	#12
hustlervibes Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Rep Power: ∞ Age: 36 Posts: 2,453 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I haven't read throught his whole thread, but judging from the earlier posts saying it is or isn't legal. From what I know it IS legal because they get less profit from customers who use credit cards because they have to go through the credit card companies and get charged a processing fee or whatever. There is shell I've seen that even does that. And they can do whatever they want.

06-09-2008, 03:08 PM	#13
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I never carry cash on me because with cash, im tempted to buy dumb shit or blow my cash... So i use my debt card. Maybe if i just go to my bank and do withdrawals, I can avoid extra card charges... but that equals more time waiting in lines at gas stations, and possibility of loose change, which would affect my overal budget since i suck at keeping loose change and drop em in my car or loose em... etc * who the hell keeps track of their pennies and nickels?.. besides old people* __________________ Keep it Classy

06-11-2008, 04:50 PM	#15
calico Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: TN Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i'd like to see an update from PHLIP in a couple weeks since he said he reported the gas station... i hope they burn in hell!