What does it take to get 18k or more for a swap 240sx!!! - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 12:42 PM

As you all know selling a 240sx is a very common thing nowadays but are the 240sx worth the $$$$ dollars we want for them???(Of course they are) Is there a prerequisite or should there be some for cars that are selling for more than 18K?
I started this thread because I posted a comment in sick13's for sale thread and I think he caught feelings because I said his car was sick but i felt he should include interior when he was selling his car (even though it was a full caged car)
And I also felt that a converted kouki was a negative:
-If you selling a car for 18k for above should you try to include as much things as possible?
-Should a 95-96 converted kouki be worth more than a 97-98 original kouki?
-Does having a newer motor help?
-Does having a bigger motor help? (i.e RB26, 1JZ, 2JZ, LS1,2,3,6,7)
-Does having an older motor like SR20, RB20 hurt or help you and why?
-Does swap difficulty increase the value?
-Does suspension, and aero play a big factor?
You dont have to conform to these questions but basically explain why you think a car is worth 18k add example if you want!!
PLEASE START YOUR REPLY BY SAYING" IN MY OPINION or IMO"

sillyvia13 · 12-21-2008, 12:51 PM

Ionno,
I was gonna say no 240 is worth 18k or 20k. but I was thinking If it was a tube chassis FULLY built race car maybe... but that car sicks13 is not a built car. motors not broken in, could fail! not saying it will but shit happens, ionno, its a bolt on car, no fab work engine bay has wires and vac lines all over the place. nice car, but not 18k nice.

You can build these car cheap. and resell big. but only hurts the scene, I would buy shit boxes. $400 and make oem specs again and sell for cost of parts plaus time at $100 a hour. I;'d still make $500 ish for playing on cars I love.

That car is worth IMO. $10k tops. its a show car.
I would rather a proven race car. myself. Or a shit box hack job. but not a show car. NEVER THAT. lol.

caveman has spoken

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 12:53 PM

I will start:
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229628...ed-700whp.html
IMO!!!! this car is worth more than 20k because:
sick ass motor swap, claimed horsepower, swap difficulty, clean swap, clean interior (full), rims.....this one is self explanatory in all the car was taste fully done!

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sillyvia13

Ionno,
I was gonna say no 240 is worth 18k or 20k. but I was thinking If it was a tube chassis FULLY built race car maybe... but that car sicks13 is not a built car. motors not broken in, could fail! not saying it will but shit happens, ionno, its a bolt on car, no fab work engine bay has wires and vac lines all over the place. nice car, but not 18k nice.

You can build these car cheap. and resell big. but only hurts the scene, I would buy shit boxes. $400 and make oem specs again and sell for cost of parts plaus time at $100 a hour. I;'d still make $500 ish for playing on cars I love.

That car is worth IMO. $10k tops. its a show car.
I would rather a proven race car. myself. Or a shit box hack job. but not a show car. NEVER THAT. lol.

caveman has spoken

WOw interesting. I think there are a few 240sx out there that are worth more than 18k but those are the SICK SICK swaps and mint bodies, and you tell as soon as you them.

chibo · 12-21-2008, 01:01 PM

IMO, no 240sx short of a collectible Nismo or otherwise is worth anything more than 10k to me. Too many new cars in that range. These damn things are old, I'm only driving one because I am a broke-ass.

**Phlip** · 12-21-2008, 01:03 PM

$18k, in my opinion is a pipe dream, born of the "drift tax" that kinda started to die when the economy started to go to shit and people stopped spending money.
I cannot think of what I could name on a 240SX to make it worth 18 grand at this particular point, especially considering what can be BUILT with that same 18.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 12-21-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

IMO, no 240sx short of a collectible Nismo or otherwise is worth anything more than 10k to me. Too many new cars in that range. These damn things are old, I'm only driving one because I am a broke-ass.

+1.

Sure, buying a car in that price range *can* save you thousands of dollars (10k car with 20k in parts type of deal), but most people would rather build their own cars at that point.

I wouldn't be able to just unload 10k and be happy driving a pre-built car.

Most I would personally spend would be 8-10k. Anything above that, I'd just buy an 04+ car.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

IMO, no 240sx short of a collectible Nismo or otherwise is worth anything more than 10k to me. Too many new cars in that range. These damn things are old, I'm only driving one because I am a broke-ass.

lol thats funny

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

$18k, in my opinion is a pipe dream, born of the "drift tax" that kinda started to die when the economy started to go to shit and people stopped spending money.
I cannot think of what I could name on a 240SX to make it worth 18 grand at this particular point, especially considering what can be BUILT with that same 18.

this is a damn true statement

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

+1.

Sure, buying a car in that price range *can* save you thousands of dollars (10k car with 20k in parts type of deal), but most people would rather build their own cars at that point.

I wouldn't be able to just unload 10k and be happy driving a pre-built car.

Most I would personally spend would be 8-10k. Anything above that, I'd just buy an 04+ car.

Some dummies im mean people just have money laying around and buy swapped cars like the ones were are talking about and cars that are worst. I know a guy that f*cking live here in NY the drove to cali and then paid 18k for a 95 convert with stock rb25, with stock brakes, bullshit aero, not cage, untuned, bullsh^t coilovers, no guages, etc. But thinks he has the hottest car in the world. Its so funny because he could have built a way better car for what he paid but he knows nothing about car period so he had no choice but to buy that dog sh*T!!!

C. Anderson · 12-21-2008, 01:14 PM

As far as the car beaing a kouki converted 95 model I would prefer it. The chassis wiring is more simple due to it being obd1. I also don't care if it is "real" or not as long as it is done correctly. I don't think the car is worth $20k though. I would say around $12k.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 95drifto

As far as the car beaing a kouki converted 95 model I would prefer it. The chassis wiring is more simple due to it being obd1. I also don't care if it is "real" or not as long as it is done correctly. I don't think the car is worth $20k though. I would say around $12k.

This thread is not an attack on sick13. Its about everybody. I dont wanna single out sick13 in this because his car is SICK IMO like I stated b4. I just wanna see what it would take for a person to get more than 18k for a 10+ year old car!!!! aLso feel free to go to the for sale side and post an example!!!!
PLEASE START YOUR REPLY BY SAYING" IN MY OPINION or IMO"

sillyvia13 · 12-21-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

WOw interesting. I think there are a few 240sx out there that are worth more than 18k but those are the SICK SICK swaps and mint bodies, and you tell as soon as you them.

ok you win.
HOLY SHIT!

Thats worth the money.
thats got bad ass in its stance...lol

the other car not so much.
lol

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sillyvia13

ok you win.
HOLY SHIT!

Thats worth the money.
thats got bad ass in its stance...lol

the other car not so much.
lol

now you see what im getting at. There are a few cars out there that are worth the money but how can you tell... this car i think is worth every dime so what he has cheap prosport gauges...its tastefully done!!!, with this car as soon as you see it you can tell its worth some paper!!! He should add some video i.e dyno video, engine running, driving etc. to his thread to show the car in action.

shinhed · 12-21-2008, 01:33 PM

I'm not sure what S-chassis is worth 18k but, I'm sure it's not a Zenki S14.
yuck!

VQMaxFan · 12-21-2008, 01:35 PM

Honestly IMHO, it would have to be a mint car with less than 50k on it.

Well for me to pay 18k for a 240.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shinhed

I'm not sure what S-chassis is worth 18k but, I'm sure it's not a Zenki S14.
yuck!

how about that 700hp zenki i just posted!!!! that shit is worth it im sorry

VQMaxFan · 12-21-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

now you see what im getting at. There are a few cars out there that are worth the money but how can you tell... this car i think is worth every dime so what he has cheap prosport gauges...its tastefully done!!!, with this car as soon as you see it you can tell its worth some paper!!! He should add some video i.e dyno video, engine running, driving etc. to his thread to show the car in action.

There are vids of the s13 he pulled the 2jz from, atleast i think thats what he did, i know he sold the s13 shell that had the 2jz in it. That car rolled out hard.

ZenkiKid · 12-21-2008, 01:39 PM

i would say everything new/rebuilt/restored all the way up to the gaskets, but then again who would go to that extent

Teknolust72 · 12-21-2008, 01:44 PM

This is worth AT LEAST 18K.....

In my opinion, if you really want to fetch that kind of price, your car needs to be perfect and beyond a normal tuned 240sx. It would need to have major attention to detail, and be a solidly built vehicle.

Zen S14 · 12-21-2008, 01:50 PM

I would not pay 20k for any 240sx out there regardless of the amount of work done on it. No modified car will be without issues. These cars are not collectables and somebody else's modified mess isn't going to be worth 20k to me.

Reality is these cars are cheap and old cars with a large aftermarket support. The aftermarket support makes modifying one to decent power possible but certainly does not make the car any more valuable.

chibo · 12-21-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

now you see what im getting at. There are a few cars out there that are worth the money but how can you tell... this car i think is worth every dime so what he has cheap prosport gauges...its tastefully done!!!, with this car as soon as you see it you can tell its worth some paper!!! He should add some video i.e dyno video, engine running, driving etc. to his thread to show the car in action.

The question is.. if he cheaped on gauges, where else did he cheap out?

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Teknolust72

This is worth AT LEAST 18K.....

In my opinion, if you really want to fetch that kind of price, your car needs to be perfect and beyond a normal tuned 240sx. It would need to have major attention to detail, and be a solidly built vehicle.

I agree but IMO I find it hard to pay 18k for cars with no interior its cool but sometimes I just hate it. I see alot of magazine cars with no interior now too quote on quote race cars but I think its just a cheaper way out!!

shinhed · 12-21-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RUTH'LESSDET

how about that 700hp zenki i just posted!!!! that shit is worth it im sorry

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...

12-21-2008, 01:54 PM

Attention to detail is worth quite a lot, depending on who your buyers are.

To me, my car is worth around 30k.. and I have the receipts to prove it. But if you're the type of 240 owner who's okay with mix-matched wheels/tires and body panels that are zip-tied out, then obviously you're not the type of person who would have 10k, let alone 20k. If you did, you probably wouldnt own a 240SX.

VQMaxFan · 12-21-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shinhed

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...

That car was immaculate, the swap was a little messy but they put that car back together in like 24hrs just before that show.

ESmorz · 12-21-2008, 02:02 PM

No s-chassis is worth 18k.

The only fun of these cars is building them. If you buy one for that much with all the work done for you, you're a trick. If you plan on investing that much in a car, do it for yourself not so you can sell it to some fanboy with deep pockets.

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shinhed

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...

OMG that blue car is sick...It has that "love at first sight appeal" to it!!
In his defense he stated "The car was completely taken apart and painted with a satin red urethane paint." Doesn't the satin paint have a "flat" look??
If not then the car isn't worth 24k maybe 19k lol!!!! shit is still hot

Teknolust72 · 12-21-2008, 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=shinhed;2522379]Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...

[QUOTE]

I would say 18K for that is not worth it. But then again, I'm used to seeing STREET cars look this good in Japan, and they fetch maybe 14K at the most!!

But to me, sick13's car is not worth 18K because he has a crapload of Megan Racing suspension components, which devalues it to me. PLUS it really makes me doubt the quality of the overall build, since the builder has chosen to use mediocre parts for components that are very important.

But then again, I havent seen the car in person, so I really cant put a price on it.....

blownmotor · 12-21-2008, 02:09 PM

A pristine 2002 Silvia Spec R is worth 18K not any 89' to 98 S-chassis is worth it. These are very sought after but it doesn't command such a high resale price and it's not a classic.

Def · 12-21-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ZenkiKid

i would say everything new/rebuilt/restored all the way up to the gaskets, but then again who would go to that extent

Eh, my car isn't that far from that. Just been tinkering with it and fixing little stuff over the past 4.5 years, and putting on only a few thousand miles a year - run out of problems to fix fast. It only takes one or two track weekends spent fixing stupid stuff while driving your car hard to get the motivation to spend the money and time to do *EVERYTHING* right.

I don't think it'd sell for anywhere near $18k though.. haha

RUTH'LESSDET · 12-21-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

No s-chassis is worth 18k.

The only fun of these cars is building them. If you buy one for that much with all the work done for you, you're a trick. If you plan on investing that much in a car, do it for yourself not so you can sell it to some fanboy with deep pockets.

IMO i dont agree becuase not everybody has the knowledge or resources to build a car. I also wouldn't call a person like that a trick unless they have no idea of wtf they are buying and are just a complete dumb ass...lol

12-21-2008, 12:42 PM	#1
RUTH'LESSDET Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NYC Age: 45 Posts: 905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What does it take to get 18k or more for a swap 240sx!!! As you all know selling a 240sx is a very common thing nowadays but are the 240sx worth the $$$$ dollars we want for them???(Of course they are) Is there a prerequisite or should there be some for cars that are selling for more than 18K? I started this thread because I posted a comment in sick13's for sale thread and I think he caught feelings because I said his car was sick but i felt he should include interior when he was selling his car (even though it was a full caged car) And I also felt that a converted kouki was a negative: -If you selling a car for 18k for above should you try to include as much things as possible? -Should a 95-96 converted kouki be worth more than a 97-98 original kouki? -Does having a newer motor help? -Does having a bigger motor help? (i.e RB26, 1JZ, 2JZ, LS1,2,3,6,7) -Does having an older motor like SR20, RB20 hurt or help you and why? -Does swap difficulty increase the value? -Does suspension, and aero play a big factor? You dont have to conform to these questions but basically explain why you think a car is worth 18k add example if you want!! PLEASE START YOUR REPLY BY SAYING" IN MY OPINION or IMO" __________________ 91 Sil80-Sold, LS2 Powered 1997 240sx-Traded, 2005 350z-Sold, Whats next?

12-21-2008, 12:53 PM	#3
RUTH'LESSDET Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NYC Age: 45 Posts: 905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I will start: http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229628...ed-700whp.html IMO!!!! this car is worth more than 20k because: sick ass motor swap, claimed horsepower, swap difficulty, clean swap, clean interior (full), rims.....this one is self explanatory in all the car was taste fully done! __________________ 91 Sil80-Sold, LS2 Powered 1997 240sx-Traded, 2005 350z-Sold, Whats next?

12-21-2008, 01:01 PM	#5
chibo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tempe and Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 37 Posts: 1,425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	IMO, no 240sx short of a collectible Nismo or otherwise is worth anything more than 10k to me. Too many new cars in that range. These damn things are old, I'm only driving one because I am a broke-ass. __________________ 1989 S13 \| 1996 S14 \| 2001 E46 \| 2009 ZX6R

12-21-2008, 01:03 PM	#6
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	$18k, in my opinion is a pipe dream, born of the "drift tax" that kinda started to die when the economy started to go to shit and people stopped spending money. I cannot think of what I could name on a 240SX to make it worth 18 grand at this particular point, especially considering what can be BUILT with that same 18. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

12-21-2008, 01:44 PM	#18
Teknolust72 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,748 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	This is worth AT LEAST 18K..... In my opinion, if you really want to fetch that kind of price, your car needs to be perfect and beyond a normal tuned 240sx. It would need to have major attention to detail, and be a solidly built vehicle. __________________

12-21-2008, 12:51 PM	#2
sillyvia13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nh Posts: 1,645 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ionno, I was gonna say no 240 is worth 18k or 20k. but I was thinking If it was a tube chassis FULLY built race car maybe... but that car sicks13 is not a built car. motors not broken in, could fail! not saying it will but shit happens, ionno, its a bolt on car, no fab work engine bay has wires and vac lines all over the place. nice car, but not 18k nice. You can build these car cheap. and resell big. but only hurts the scene, I would buy shit boxes. $400 and make oem specs again and sell for cost of parts plaus time at $100 a hour. I;'d still make $500 ish for playing on cars I love. That car is worth IMO. $10k tops. its a show car. I would rather a proven race car. myself. Or a shit box hack job. but not a show car. NEVER THAT. lol. caveman has spoken

12-21-2008, 01:14 PM	#9
C. Anderson Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Memphis, TN Age: 41 Posts: 784 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	As far as the car beaing a kouki converted 95 model I would prefer it. The chassis wiring is more simple due to it being obd1. I also don't care if it is "real" or not as long as it is done correctly. I don't think the car is worth $20k though. I would say around $12k.

12-21-2008, 01:33 PM	#13
shinhed Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Austria Posts: 955 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I'm not sure what S-chassis is worth 18k but, I'm sure it's not a Zenki S14. yuck!

12-21-2008, 01:35 PM	#14
VQMaxFan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mobile AL Age: 35 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Honestly IMHO, it would have to be a mint car with less than 50k on it. Well for me to pay 18k for a 240.

12-21-2008, 01:39 PM	#17
ZenkiKid Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 35 Posts: 3,285 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	i would say everything new/rebuilt/restored all the way up to the gaskets, but then again who would go to that extent

12-21-2008, 01:50 PM	#19
Zen S14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia USA Age: 48 Posts: 240 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I would not pay 20k for any 240sx out there regardless of the amount of work done on it. No modified car will be without issues. These cars are not collectables and somebody else's modified mess isn't going to be worth 20k to me. Reality is these cars are cheap and old cars with a large aftermarket support. The aftermarket support makes modifying one to decent power possible but certainly does not make the car any more valuable.

12-21-2008, 01:54 PM	#23
ixfxi Guest Posts: n/a	Attention to detail is worth quite a lot, depending on who your buyers are. To me, my car is worth around 30k.. and I have the receipts to prove it. But if you're the type of 240 owner who's okay with mix-matched wheels/tires and body panels that are zip-tied out, then obviously you're not the type of person who would have 10k, let alone 20k. If you did, you probably wouldnt own a 240SX.

12-21-2008, 02:02 PM	#25
ESmorz Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It Looks Like A Dong Posts: 6,902 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	No s-chassis is worth 18k. The only fun of these cars is building them. If you buy one for that much with all the work done for you, you're a trick. If you plan on investing that much in a car, do it for yourself not so you can sell it to some fanboy with deep pockets. __________________

12-21-2008, 02:04 PM	#27
Teknolust72 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,748 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	[QUOTE=shinhed;2522379]Nope, sorry. The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior... I'd pay 18k if it looked like this... [QUOTE] I would say 18K for that is not worth it. But then again, I'm used to seeing STREET cars look this good in Japan, and they fetch maybe 14K at the most!! But to me, sick13's car is not worth 18K because he has a crapload of Megan Racing suspension components, which devalues it to me. PLUS it really makes me doubt the quality of the overall build, since the builder has chosen to use mediocre parts for components that are very important. But then again, I havent seen the car in person, so I really cant put a price on it..... __________________

12-21-2008, 02:09 PM	#28
blownmotor Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: land of the sideshows Posts: 402 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A pristine 2002 Silvia Spec R is worth 18K not any 89' to 98 S-chassis is worth it. These are very sought after but it doesn't command such a high resale price and it's not a classic.