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Old 07-23-2010, 02:45 AM   #1
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noah's ark in the christian belief

is this forreals do christians really believe that dinosaurs were around during the time of noah's ark... i read about that in one of my friends super christian propaganda comics he gives to kids.


Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?

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wow just wow.... thats a big stretch
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uh no, christians don't believe that dinosaurs were on the ark. I've never heard of that before. That page is wack. Where it says "vertebrates," it should be assumed that meant vertebrates that were alive at that time. Huge "duh!"
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I think dinosaurs stems more from the term beasts in the bible. There are so many ways to interpret bible verses and ideals.

Kind of related, prehistoric creatures still exist to date... just saying.
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Hahaha the term "land vertebrate" def doesn't mean vertebrates like alligators, crocs, other reptiles, etc.
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Noah's ark was a spaceship.
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you're issue isnt with the fact that people believe this guy built a huge boat and put 1 of every animal on it on earth in it, but that it may or may not of had dinosaurs on it?
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2 and animals that can live in water fear no flood.
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is this forreals do christians really believe that dinosaurs were around during the time of noah's ark... i read about that in one of my friends super christian propaganda comics he gives to kids.


Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?

wtf thats crrazzzy
Do you have proof that it didn't happen?
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usually people who believe in this think that the earth is only a few thousand years old and our interpretation of geology and fossil record is wrong. hence the whole "humans being around with dinosaurs" bit.
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well it says something about only the clean animals, something like that, so they weren't on the ark
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crocodile are prehistoric came from the same tree decent as dinorsuars. shouldn't they be labels as dinosaurs too.?

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There are groups of religious people that truly believe that dinosaurs and evolution is fake and they have a museum to brainwash their kids. I mean, religion is cool and all, but once a person uses his or her religion and throws out common sense and morality, that's stupidity. One can still believe in something and still also believe in logic and reasoning.

One can believe in God, and also hold caution that most things that one hears throughout his or her life is utterly false because these things are retorted by other people. Life is all about what you hear, what you've been told, and what others present to you. You have to filter out all the junk (like you would if you were downloading a song) to see which is full of viruses and dead info. Find the ones that work and makes you happy. You can't just say that you believe in 100% of everything one religion says because in life, my friends, nothing is 100%, and that my friends is the only 100% truth.

So:

1. Dinosaurs real
2. Evolution real
3. Noah's ark fake
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I believe Kentucky.

I believe they depict Dinosaurs and Man co-existing on the same exhibit(s). Didn't know our ancestors ate Dinosaur meat. But okay~ They also have a Noah's ark exhibit, which would probably be super accurate to fit inside the museum to accommodate a billion species of animals.

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There are groups of religious people that truly believe that dinosaurs and evolution is fake and they have a museum to brainwash their kids. I mean, religion is cool and all, but once a person uses his or her religion and throws out common sense and morality, that's stupidity. One can still believe in something and still also believe in logic and reasoning.

One can believe in God, and also hold caution that most things that one hears throughout his or her life is utterly false because these things are retorted by other people. Life is all about what you hear, what you've been told, and what others present to you. You have to filter out all the junk (like you would if you were downloading a song) to see which is full of viruses and dead info. Find the ones that work and makes you happy. You can't just say that you believe in 100% of everything one religion says because in life, my friends, nothing is 100%, and that my friends is the only 100% truth.

So:

1. Dinosaurs real
2. Evolution real
3. Noah's ark fake
4. Religion - I know the truth. You decide.
So which is it, nothing or only that liner is 100%? Just checking your little liner there. I don't believe in everything I see, hear, etc... but I do believe there is something there that can't be seen, heard, etc...(yes, I'm referring to God). The thing with believers and non-believers is education. Alot of people from both sides do not have enough of it and make decisions and/or spew things from their mouths that may or may not be true. I guess that's where part of your philosophy comes in. Oh and I'm pretty sure it's the true believers that hold on to their morality then throw out vs the non.
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The thing with believers and non-believers is education. Alot of people from both sides do not have enough of it and make decisions and/or spew things from their mouths that may or may not be true.
It's not entirely about education. Certain types of people no matter how much education they receive are always going to spew nonsense. Likewise some very well educated people always spew nonsense because they rely on education from all the wrong sources, or are just really full of themselves.
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crocodile are prehistoric came from the same tree decent as dinorsuars. shouldn't they be labels as dinosaurs too.?
Birds descended from dinosaurs and crocodiles are closely related to birds. Birds and crocodiles share a common ancestor with dinosaurs, but birds are the closest extant species to dinosaurs.


If Dinosaurs really did exist during the time of Noahs ark then can the creationist making this claim present any sort of evidence besides using Blind faith?
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Some religious people (the ones they make fun of in the news) discount evolution, when in fact many who devote their lives to studying the bible feel it is something designed by God. I doubt we mutated from apes, but mutation is really close to evolution, and mutation is evident - so you decide. But don't be too hard on these religious people, as they are no better than the scientist/atheist crowd who claim to know absolute truth.

On the other side of the spectrum, the science-as-religion folks argue against a God, yet science constantly proves them wrong. For example, SCIENTISTS (who make guesses that atheists accept as fact) recently wrote that many dinosaurs may have had feathers... not scales. So basically overnight an atheist's religion was changed. This feather issue makes sense, as we can see remnants of such mutation (evolution) in birds... their feet are reptilian, as is the skin around there eyes (and have you seen a parrot's tongue?!). Our C14 dating systems were designed with what we know, like computers, and we all know how human designed technologies often fall short.

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Birds descended from dinosaurs and crocodiles are closely related to birds. Birds and crocodiles share a common ancestor with dinosaurs, but birds are the closest extant species to dinosaurs.


If Dinosaurs really did exist during the time of Noahs ark then can the creationist making this claim present any sort of evidence besides using Blind faith?
Who said dinosaurs were around Noah's time? I think it was just an assumption someone was making as fact to make fun of christianity.

Let's not get into blind faith because science is about blind faith too, you just don't see it.
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Some religious people (the ones they make fun of in the news) discount evolution, when in fact many who devote their lives to studying the bible feel it is something designed by God. I doubt we mutated from apes, but mutation is really close to evolution, and mutation is evident - so you decide. But don't be too hard on these religious people, as they are no better than the scientist/atheist crowd who claim to know absolute truth.

On the other side of the spectrum, the science-as-religion folks argue against a God, yet science constantly proves them wrong. For example, SCIENTISTS (who make guesses that atheists accept as fact) recently wrote that many dinosaurs may have had feathers... not scales. So basically overnight an atheist's religion was changed. This feather issue makes sense, as we can see remnants of such mutation (evolution) in birds... their feet are reptilian, as is the skin around there eyes (and have you seen a parrot's tongue?!). Our C14 dating systems were designed with what we know, like computers, and we all know how human designed technologies often fall short.

The truth often lies in the middle. Don't close your minds!

No scientist or well informed atheist will ever claim they know absolute truth, but they will say we have more evidence.

Also, keep in mind that atheism is not a religion, we aren't bound by any ideology or belief. In fact you don't need a reason to be atheist. I'm almost certain this confusion is from Faux News.

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Let's not get into blind faith because science is about blind faith too, you just don't see it.
What? So, what exactly is it about science that is based on blind faith?
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I've never actually heard much about this issue in my 30 years of church attendance... that is, until liberals & Democrats recently began their witch hunt in 2008 with the success of Obamanism. That alone should raise suspicions.

Here is an interesting read, for those who are open minded: Dinosaurs and the Bible


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Not this shit again...
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