Dodge ripping off nissan?!?!?! - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

*transient* · 01-09-2002, 10:29 PM

<a href="http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/01/07/034195.html?NEWS

Look" target="_blank">http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/01/07/034195.html?NEWS

Look</a> at this. Now can you think of a nissan car that looks a bit like that?

Nismos14 · 01-09-2002, 10:31 PM

interesting 2.4L turbo w/ intercooler #### freakin copy cats

Drifting Ricer · 01-09-2002, 10:32 PM

2.4 l4 turbo?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?250HP???

samiam · 01-09-2002, 10:43 PM

Did you read the specs.......what the #### is up with the 7" width in the tires....I think they missed the rear-wheel-drive class on a sport car.....larger wheels should include the width along with the heigth.

twofortysx · 01-09-2002, 11:07 PM

The first thing I thought when I saw that picture was 70% 280z, 30% 350z.  In all honesty, if the car is going to cost 14k for that much performance, it's going to be a shitty car.

NOSfEDs12vh45dett · 01-10-2002, 07:26 AM

aHHHHHHHH the prototype 240z, they cloned it, Bastards.

zephyr · 01-10-2002, 07:33 AM

im sorry but that is a blatant rip-off...
even the colour is the same as the 350z concept
i hope they get sued

HippoSleek · 01-10-2002, 07:52 AM

I dunno - it looks like about 15 other concept cars too (that is just the style - from VW to Chrysler).  The front has way more vertical influences than the 350z and it is way more rounded.  Ditto the color.  I actually like the look of the 350 way better b/c I think this car is too Viperish.

On the other hand - and be HONEST - if you could buy a $15,000 turbo, 250hp, 2500 pound car!!  I, for one, would be pround to see the US return to world dominance in affordable performance cars!  A sporty, small RWD coupe would be fine w/ me (except it looks like a 2 seater turbo which is bad for insurance).  BTW: the wheels on the JDM s14 are only 6.5" wide.

BlankFlip · 01-10-2002, 07:56 AM

it looks 2 much alike, way 2 much.

whateverjames · 01-10-2002, 07:59 AM

i can understand putting nissan front ends and lights on other cars, to a certain extent, i can understand they'd want to be perfect like us. but ####, stealing idea and making it your own? that's not right. anyone seen ford's attempt at ripping off the Z? i'm looking at it right now in a magazine, i wish i had a link to share with all. it's just as pathetic.

burgy240 · 01-10-2002, 08:19 AM

I sent the editor a little letter about my opinion on the RazorZFairlady!!  hehe.  If thats all they can come up with at dodge I need to be in the design and engineering teamsd for them.

HippoSleek · 01-10-2002, 08:32 AM

Go check this place out.  Notice how many cars come in copper and how many share the lines of the 350z.  You may notice that there is a similar Chrysler from a year before the into of the 350z, a similar Oldsmobile, VW, Audi, the original RSX concept, etc.  If anybody has a right to bitch, it's Audi - whose design molds are being used by all of the above.

http://www.cardesignnews.com/index.shtml

01-10-2002, 09:19 AM

Yeah but I think if I had to choose between a 28k 350z and a 15k Dodge Razor....I'd pick the dodge.  But I see no way in hades that they are going to be able to sell ilt for 15k.  That's really cheap.  I could see 20k...but not 15k.

sspikey · 01-10-2002, 04:05 PM

theyre copying nissan Z cars because they are some of the best,cheapest and most sold cars the automotive world has ever seen!

soon2Bsilvia · 01-10-2002, 04:39 PM

Those #### Biters!
what the #### is there problem.
How come everybody wants to be a Nissan.
I can't wait til' the Z smokes the crap of that piece of crap.

DuffMan · 01-10-2002, 06:03 PM

Assuming it is ever actually produced, which is unlikely.

I like the idea though, cheap and fast.

my240likenoother · 01-10-2002, 07:44 PM

someone needs to contact Nissan (s13grl!!)
she will give them a peice of her mind

01-10-2002, 09:37 PM

its very similar though like someone said before no way in #### they will sell it for that cheap (unless its produced and manufactured in ethiopia or malaysia) ill wait to see its quality then

and also who knows if it will come out

since we are on this topic today driving home from work i saw a mustang with altezza lights that were rip offs from the r33 34 skyline! i wanted to take a pic but didnt have a camera

chickenmanq · 01-10-2002, 09:41 PM

HOWEVER, what a way to boost Nissan's sales (when they find out the Dog is a pos) and lower the price of the 350z for us.  I think it may yet be good, but yeah, total fuckin' ripoff.

NOSfEDs12vh45dett · 01-11-2002, 05:49 AM

185's, it's so cool

lilredstiffy · 01-11-2002, 09:00 AM

>>Packaged with the most necessary performance tools and functions, including two orange Razor scooters, and providing customers the opportunity to make its interior entirely their own, Dodge Razor offers driving excitement to go.

Hhahahaahahah you get two of those lame scooters with the car!!

01-27-2002, 10:18 PM

you know i just realized, since mitsu is dodge's cousin, the 4G63 could be powering that if it ever comes out

whateverjames · 01-27-2002, 10:48 PM

i thought they weren't with eachother anymore. i thought those german companies bought dodge out. and i wonder if those german companies have anything to do with mitsubishi anymore...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm anyone know?

drift freaq · 01-27-2002, 10:58 PM

Duffman blathers.....
Assuming it is ever actually produced, which is unlikely.
_______________________________________

ya well they are taking orders on it starting in Feb and delivery date is August the 350z is one hundred percent on it is being built.

runs off into the night mumbling its a Nissan copycat conspiracy

misnomer · 01-27-2002, 11:57 PM

####, with those numbers, I'd get one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

Chrysler was bought out by a German company, so I doubt Dodge whould have anything to do with Mitsubishi. Plus, the article states that the engine is an existing Dodge powerplant.

01-09-2002, 10:29 PM	#1
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 40 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<a href="http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/01/07/034195.html?NEWS Look" target="_blank">http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/01/07/034195.html?NEWS Look</a> at this. Now can you think of a nissan car that looks a bit like that?

01-09-2002, 10:31 PM	#2
Nismos14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 1,213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	interesting 2.4L turbo w/ intercooler #### freakin copy cats

01-09-2002, 10:32 PM	#3
Drifting Ricer Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Boston MA Posts: 608 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2.4 l4 turbo?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?250HP???

01-09-2002, 10:43 PM	#4
samiam Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did you read the specs.......what the #### is up with the 7" width in the tires....I think they missed the rear-wheel-drive class on a sport car.....larger wheels should include the width along with the heigth.

01-09-2002, 11:07 PM	#5
twofortysx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 491 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The first thing I thought when I saw that picture was 70% 280z, 30% 350z.  In all honesty, if the car is going to cost 14k for that much performance, it's going to be a shitty car.

01-10-2002, 07:26 AM	#6
NOSfEDs12vh45dett Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	aHHHHHHHH the prototype 240z, they cloned it, Bastards.

01-10-2002, 07:33 AM	#7
zephyr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 356 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im sorry but that is a blatant rip-off... even the colour is the same as the 350z concept i hope they get sued

01-10-2002, 07:52 AM	#8
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dunno - it looks like about 15 other concept cars too (that is just the style - from VW to Chrysler).  The front has way more vertical influences than the 350z and it is way more rounded.  Ditto the color.  I actually like the look of the 350 way better b/c I think this car is too Viperish. On the other hand - and be HONEST - if you could buy a $15,000 turbo, 250hp, 2500 pound car!!  I, for one, would be pround to see the US return to world dominance in affordable performance cars!  A sporty, small RWD coupe would be fine w/ me (except it looks like a 2 seater turbo which is bad for insurance).  BTW: the wheels on the JDM s14 are only 6.5" wide.

01-10-2002, 07:56 AM	#9
BlankFlip Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Future Posts: 1,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it looks 2 much alike, way 2 much.

01-10-2002, 07:59 AM	#10
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i can understand putting nissan front ends and lights on other cars, to a certain extent, i can understand they'd want to be perfect like us. but ####, stealing idea and making it your own? that's not right. anyone seen ford's attempt at ripping off the Z? i'm looking at it right now in a magazine, i wish i had a link to share with all. it's just as pathetic.

01-10-2002, 08:19 AM	#11
burgy240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tampa Age: 48 Posts: 2,151 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I sent the editor a little letter about my opinion on the RazorZFairlady!!  hehe.  If thats all they can come up with at dodge I need to be in the design and engineering teamsd for them.

01-10-2002, 08:32 AM	#12
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Go check this place out.  Notice how many cars come in copper and how many share the lines of the 350z.  You may notice that there is a similar Chrysler from a year before the into of the 350z, a similar Oldsmobile, VW, Audi, the original RSX concept, etc.  If anybody has a right to bitch, it's Audi - whose design molds are being used by all of the above. http://www.cardesignnews.com/index.shtml

01-10-2002, 09:19 AM	#13
Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah but I think if I had to choose between a 28k 350z and a 15k Dodge Razor....I'd pick the dodge.  But I see no way in hades that they are going to be able to sell ilt for 15k.  That's really cheap.  I could see 20k...but not 15k.

01-10-2002, 04:05 PM	#14
sspikey Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theyre copying nissan Z cars because they are some of the best,cheapest and most sold cars the automotive world has ever seen!

01-10-2002, 04:39 PM	#15
soon2Bsilvia Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 170 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Those #### Biters! what the #### is there problem. How come everybody wants to be a Nissan. I can't wait til' the Z smokes the crap of that piece of crap.

01-10-2002, 06:03 PM	#16
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Assuming it is ever actually produced, which is unlikely. I like the idea though, cheap and fast.

01-10-2002, 07:44 PM	#17
my240likenoother Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	someone needs to contact Nissan (s13grl!!) she will give them a peice of her mind

01-10-2002, 09:37 PM	#18
Guest Posts: n/a	its very similar though like someone said before no way in #### they will sell it for that cheap (unless its produced and manufactured in ethiopia or malaysia) ill wait to see its quality then and also who knows if it will come out since we are on this topic today driving home from work i saw a mustang with altezza lights that were rip offs from the r33 34 skyline! i wanted to take a pic but didnt have a camera

01-10-2002, 09:41 PM	#19
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HOWEVER, what a way to boost Nissan's sales (when they find out the Dog is a pos) and lower the price of the 350z for us.  I think it may yet be good, but yeah, total fuckin' ripoff.

01-11-2002, 05:49 AM	#20
NOSfEDs12vh45dett Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	185's, it's so cool

01-11-2002, 09:00 AM	#21
lilredstiffy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: louisiana Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	>>Packaged with the most necessary performance tools and functions, including two orange Razor scooters, and providing customers the opportunity to make its interior entirely their own, Dodge Razor offers driving excitement to go. Hhahahaahahah you get two of those lame scooters with the car!!

01-27-2002, 10:18 PM	#22
Guest Posts: n/a	you know i just realized, since mitsu is dodge's cousin, the 4G63 could be powering that if it ever comes out

01-27-2002, 10:48 PM	#23
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 44 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i thought they weren't with eachother anymore. i thought those german companies bought dodge out. and i wonder if those german companies have anything to do with mitsubishi anymore...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm anyone know?

01-27-2002, 10:58 PM	#24
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,562 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Duffman blathers..... Assuming it is ever actually produced, which is unlikely. _______________________________________ ya well they are taking orders on it starting in Feb and delivery date is August the 350z is one hundred percent on it is being built. runs off into the night mumbling its a Nissan copycat conspiracy

01-27-2002, 11:57 PM	#25
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	####, with those numbers, I'd get one <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> Chrysler was bought out by a German company, so I doubt Dodge whould have anything to do with Mitsubishi. Plus, the article states that the engine is an existing Dodge powerplant.