New Garrett GTX2867r

[codyace]

Originally Posted by Seraphim38

spend $400 and get new injector dynamics top feeds. They are so much better in design and tunability than the side feed sards...

My injector dynamics ID1000s never see more than 50% duty cycle at 360+rwhp (on PSI's dyno in Portland) and they idle like stock with a well tuned Power FC D Jetro.

ID injectors are awesome. I'm considering switching out my current injectors over the winter for a set of them to make some more power (my current Seimens 60 lbers are damn near maxed out). I've got plenty of big power domestic guys that love the ID stuff and I'm sold on them.





In regard to DW and other redrilled injectors, just do a search on them. It's amazing how so many people skip past reviews and simply make a list by sorting cheapest parts first when shopping. Tons of real information on why they are not a good choice. Funny how people can skimp on 50-100 bucks on a 3000 dollar setup ya know?



Another thign to consider is the flow ability of the stock rail. I know everyone likes putting the sidefeeds in, but there is a certain point where the stock fuel rail isn't up to task in regard to fuel flow either....

[huffandpuff00]

Still looking for injectors and cant find any used sard 850cc for sale, SO i found these Power enterprise(PE) 850cc injectors that are denso and look exactly like the sard ones.

Iv searched to see if the PE injectors have any differences to the sard ones but havent found anything but some forums stating that they are sard/PE and the SAME.

Power Enterprise SH850-C 850cc Fuel Injectors Set SR20DET

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by huffandpuff00

Still looking for injectors and cant find any used sard 850cc for sale, SO i found these Power enterprise(PE) 850cc injectors that are denso and look exactly like the sard ones.

Iv searched to see if the PE injectors have any differences to the sard ones but havent found anything but some forums stating that they are sard/PE and the SAME.

Power Enterprise SH850-C 850cc Fuel Injectors Set SR20DET

A lot of the JDM injectors are just re-branded Denso. SARD, PE and NISMO included.

[jr_ss]

Originally Posted by S14DB

A lot of the JDM injectors are just re-branded Denso. SARD, PE and NISMO included.

That may be the case, however, the Nismo/Tomei units are type 1 injectors where as the Sard/PE are type 2.

[steve shadows]

Originally Posted by jr_ss

That may be the case, however, the Nismo/Tomei units are type 1 injectors where as the Sard/PE are type 2.

True and for the love of god will people please stop using sti injectors...oh and top feed injectors with the power fc...

[codyace]

Originally Posted by steve shadows

True and for the love of god will people please stop using sti injectors...oh and top feed injectors with the power fc...

Curious on the STI Injector comments. While I've never run them, I've been under the impression they are a cheap/easy/reliable upgrade for a 300whp setup (Sentra Guys love them).

Teach me Steve!

[HIGHFIVEBETA]

Originally Posted by steve shadows

True and for the love of god will people please stop using sti injectors...oh and top feed injectors with the power fc...

What exactly is wrong with top feeds and power fc?

[codyace]

What about running a 615cc at 4 bar ful pressure as well? That should theoretically support 450ish whp?

[801nismo104]

what cams are you guys running with this turbo? im still debating wether i should get tomei 256/256 or tomei 260/260

[huffandpuff00]

If you are still running the OEM manifold I would just keep your .64 exhaust housing and either have codyace weld you a MVS (NOT MVR!) on to the manifold, or you could get a shop to try to weld the v-band flange to the side of your .64 housing and make it like the ATP t25 housing.

the ATP housing flows like a T3 and is .72 so im pretty sure it will be less responsive.

[turbolino]

my setup
power fc
hks 740cc injectors
tomei 256 cams
GT2871R A? R 64
Cp 86.5 pistons
eagle r
ARP heat s
1.1mm metal heat g
tomei expreme manifold
3''cat back
ect

the first time in the dyno make 297 WHP at 16 psi
The tuner said there was not enough gas for more psi
i do not think that was right
I am not happy with the tune.
the injector duty cycle is 50%

when driving my car for first time after the tune
was make only 10 psi, then I call the tuner and he said my car make 16 psi on the dyno, I would not argue with him and said nothing.
I then realized that I only make 16 psi when I was in 4 and 5 gear at 4500rmp.
this means that the lol tune the car at boos creep and make 16psi at top end and not at low rpm as all


the injector duty cycle is 50%
question if I change my tuner
you think I can make 20 or 18 PSI? in any gear, not just 4 or 5 at 4500rpm
with the stock gt2871r wastegate and my AEM tru boos control, making agustes in the internal wastegate
which is the maximum psi on stock internal waste gate

Please help
ideas to get 320WHP
and a good tuner in New Jersey or Pennsylvania

[JFoxx]

Originally Posted by turbolino

Please help
ideas to get 320WHP

buy my turbo for sale...... i ran 17 psi on pump gas and made 389 to the wheels.....(HKS GTRS)

[codyace]

Originally Posted by huffandpuff00

If you are still running the OEM manifold I would just keep your .64 exhaust housing and either have codyace weld you a MVS (NOT MVR!) on to the manifold, or you could get a shop to try to weld the v-band flange to the side of your .64 housing and make it like the ATP t25 housing.

the ATP housing flows like a T3 and is .72 so im pretty sure it will be less responsive.

We can do MVR 44 now as well

Originally Posted by 801nismo104

what cams are you guys running with this turbo? im still debating wether i should get tomei 256/256 or tomei 260/260

Tomei 260's for sure.

Originally Posted by turbolino

the first time in the dyno make 297 WHP at 16 psi
The tuner said there was not enough gas for more psi
i do not think that was right
I am not happy with the tune.
the injector duty cycle is 50%

Sounds like your tuner is junk. Find a new one ASAP! Where in NJ are you?

Originally Posted by turbolino

this means that the lol tune the car at boos creep and make 16psi at top end and not at low rpm as all

That's the downfall of the internal gate. Send a stock manifold to me, I'll have a Tial Wastegate flange welded onto it, and you'll never have boost issues again (I have one in stock as well,

You can also use a decent EBC to help control it and while it may, it's still a major PITA to set them up with Internal Gates to work 100% money all the time.

[turbolino]

07011 clifton 15m from new york

I want to use the housing Turbin EWG ATP t25
but I see almost no one who has.
if I change my A/R64 to the A/R72 will be better or worse?

if a A/R86 is better than a A/R 64,
Why? a A/R72 no better than a A/R64, how big is the difference for not doing the ATP housing

Originally Posted by JFoxx

buy my turbo for sale...... i ran 17 psi on pump gas and made 389 to the wheels.....(HKS GTRS)

I have to sell my gt2871r first and now I want to find solution for the same

Hey Cody, you've ever weld a 44 mm flame in A/R housing as the ATP?

Originally Posted by AdrenalineS14

HOT DAMN! can wait for numbers, this is a nice little setup though

that is the différance on my gt2871A/R64,to your turbo?
you believe the t25 atp ewg housing work on my turbo?

[huffandpuff00]

Originally Posted by turbolino

07011 clifton 15m from new york

I want to use the housing Turbin EWG ATP t25
but I see almost no one who has.
if I change my A/R64 to the A/R72 will be better or worse?

if a A/R86 is better than a A/R 64,
Why? a A/R72 no better than a A/R64, how big is the difference for not doing the ATP housing

.72 housing flows like a t3!
I think of it like:
T2(.86) = T3(.63)
T2(.xx) = T3(.72)

My last dunno with the .72 housing was full boost(18.96) at 4200rpm, and I think if I ran a smaller A/R T3 housing ie .63, full boost would be around 4000 or maybe lower...

[usdm180sx]

Hey Cody my car's at the shop now getting all my parts installed and then it will be tuned. My buddy who works there says one of his customers made 389whp with an internal wg setup. What they did is let it spike to 24lbs then settle down to 18 then it becomes stable. I have the hks gt-rs and the maximum boost efficiency is 24lbs so I was thinking about doing the same for now. He's been running that setup for awhile with no problems. Any thoughts?

[2stepGoesPowPow]

Im having a similar problem as turbolino also, i have gt2871r .64, 740cc, tomei expreme manifold and turbo elbow, stock motor, hallman pro rx mbc, and nistune, running 10 lbs but i dont hit 10lbs in 1st or 2nd, i also am looking to hit 320hp once i get dyno time and another tune.

[unijabnx2000]

I have a .63 T31 vband with my gt28rs and at 17psi , 335whp
I can't wait to get the gtx2867

[huffandpuff00]

^^Cams? Stock manifold? T25 plus housing?

[unijabnx2000]

Originally Posted by huffandpuff00

^^Cams? Stock manifold? T25 plus housing?

jwt s3 cams, protech tubular manifold, map/iat, tial MVS, T31 housing (not T25+)
I thought this was good for 8.5:1 compression

[codyace]

This is the recent MVR job, along with the trimmed OEM heatshield



Came out really slick!

[turbolino]

Originally Posted by codyace

This is the recent MVR job, along with the trimmed OEM heatshield



Came out really slick!

looks good,you the man

[huffandpuff00]

Can anyone confirm T2 vs T3 exhaust housing a/r are different?

ie T3(.64) = T2(.86)

I'm confused by ATP's statement that a T2 housing can "flow like a true T3"

It seems mathematically ar is just:

[unijabnx2000]

Originally Posted by huffandpuff00

Can anyone confirm T2 vs T3 exhaust housing a/r are different?

ie T3(.64) = T2(.86)

I'm confused by ATP's statement that a T2 housing can "flow like a true T3"

It seems mathematically ar is just:

Go to garretts site and check out the turbine graphs... You'll find the diff b/t the t2 .86 and t3 .63 is about 1 lb/min.

[Seraphim38]

my top feed ID1000 injector dynamics high impedence injectors work fabulously with my Power FC D-Jetro setup. But yes, big flow fatty type MSD top feeds are not going to work so well with a power FC...

[slider2828]

I don't think its top feeds specifically but types of top feed. Possibly due to impedence on the injector being difference? Supras are like that....

[codyace]

Originally Posted by slider2828

I don't think its top feeds specifically but types of top feed. Possibly due to impedence on the injector being difference? Supras are like that....

Yea I would say it's a very specific issue, probably more aimed at the older MSD?Rochester style injectors.

[e1_griego]

I have a set of 50# kicking around that I can't get rid of -- who still runs those older style inj?

[codyace]

Originally Posted by e1_griego

I have a set of 50# kicking around that I can't get rid of -- who still runs those older style inj?

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[e1_griego]

Yeah I've posted them before on both, just don't have that many posts.