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Isn't this a republican rep thread? You guys are trolling in here trying to tell everyone Barack is doing a good job. No republican is gonna vote for Barry.
And if you want some quotes just listen to Obama talk any day of the week. Vote Ron Paul! I'm done with this thread. |
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Hahaha why did this turn into a pro Obama anti Obama debate... In any event some one asked why Ron Paul isn't leading in the primaries - because he's libertarian, progressive, and speaks his mind. These are things that normally scare the shit outa the GOP and everyday American republicans... Besides that there is a lot more bullshit and politic-ing that goes into the primaries if you think the "people" are really deciding the next candidate ur mistaken it's all about endorsements and backing. Simply put our man Ronny doesn't get no love, I'm still gonna vote for him though... If only enough mofos would then we could really restore this country to its former greatness... If not I say we elect him as the next governor of Cali and secede lol
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This thread is all sorts of lol. Should I stay out and eat popcorn or put on my flame suit and shit storm hip waders?
I would love to see Ron Paul be the candidate but the Republican Party will do all in its power and anything it can get away with not in its power to stop him. The sensible alternative is Mit Romney. He has all the real world skills in running big shit to run even more big shit. I have full confidence he will do a mediocre job and have nothing change from the status quo. The neo cons(and those that feed off them) would have Santorum as President. I see no positive outcome of him winning. He has abuse of power and religious nut written all over him. If anyone needs me to give reasons why Newt Gingrich should never be allowed another oath of office please book the next rocket to moonbase Newt.
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NBC Politics - NBC: Santorum to suspend presidential campaign
Darn, I wanted Santorum to get the nomination too |
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Hell no I am not serious. Santorum is one of those Christian extremists that make other Christians look bad. Never am I serious in my saying that I would like Santorum to be nominated by the GOP, except in that place where he would lose the general election in embarrassing fashion. |
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Whew! I didn't think you would, but hey...we all have personal opinions with politics haha. He was a jerk through and through here...thankfully he was ousted through Voters knowing better. Kind of funny to see how once that happened how many of his GOP buddies turned on him (rightfully so) and now dismiss him (although it's a shame that ass kissing is still so important in politics)
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I'm going to throw my two cents in here and see if I can't get anyone to see what I see.
Over the short years that I have been paying attention to what matters (the direction of the nation and my future (amongst anything else that is important, not that those things are the only important things to be thought about)) I have learned that nothing at all can be done to change minds except sliding ideas in between sentences and hoping that the other person thinks about them later on and makes their own decision. However, what's being done here, can not be ignored. While it is easy to believe what you see in front of you, I was once told to "believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see". This applies especially to the news and politics. In the past there have been many dictators and many people to learn from (if you wanted to try and control a nation are large group of people). The U.S. constitution is set in place so that the U.S. never gets a Hitler of it's own. It has been documented that Obama has indeed ignored this doctrine for the governing of the country. Some examples, trying to force citizens to buy health care (no official can force anything), bypassing Congress about implicating sorties over near Egypt and what not, amongst other things we do not know about. The unemployment numbers spoken of in this thread are biased towards Obama, it is election year after all and we must remember that. Look for the "OK" for the Keystone Pipeline near November. It can be argued that a competent president would not have to strategically make himself look good to get re-elected. Taking control of a nation is not done with force as in the past, the citizens have rights here, you do it covertly. Let me now discuss the healthcare plan. It is a mandate. Not everyone has healthcare, and making yourself look like a savior for the weak makes you look very, very good. Once the government has their foot in the door, the question remains, what else can they mandate? Anything with enough time. They can make you not drive gas driven cars anymore because it hurts the ozone, or not use the phone during certain hours because it uses to much energy and pollutes more. Seemingly innocent ideas but covertly government control. Do you see what is meant by "reading in between the lines"? It seems to me, as the one that speaks alone and ridiculed is the one that is correct. Why? Because they can see the truth through the lies. Returning to Obama. The Democrats love him. There is no one running against him. The Republicans are ridiculed because of their actions. But let us note however, that during Bush's reign (I will use the term "reign" lightly for Bush as well as Obama) when gas hit $2.00 a gallon the country was ready to storm the White House, but under Obama mind you, $4.00 is the "new norm". I'd like to ask foolish axiomatik if that sits well with him. Of course anyone who says "he's trying to take the country over" will sound like a fool and anyone with him as well. I am uncertain what his plans are, I am uncertain what will happen all over the world in the next year, but what I do know is that Obama isn't on our side. Our government officials (not, leaders) would not cater to the enemy. Radical Islam is not one take lightly or be respected. Obama recently welcomed leaders of the Egyptian Brotherhood into the White House which you didn't hear on ABC. To put it more intelligently, here is a quote from Churchill: “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.” Without bipartisanship, is this really the type of government that is to be in place in the U.S.? The facts are all "there" and here a like. All you have to do is see them for what they are. I am an Independent. If the democrats were where the Republicans are and the Republicans where the Democrats are I would vote Democrat. I am lead by what is right after painstakingly long deliberation. And this is not right. |
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I can only imagine what he would describe himself as - Independent? Well thats not an ideology. Progressive? That is just another word for Liberal. Last edited by Corbic; 04-15-2012 at 03:37 PM.. |
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I am arguing what is really happening and you can't just see that. It doesn't take a psychic to be able "see" what's going on here. I gave you all the facts in my first post. They are not false. They can not be proven false. Liberal arguments are false and can not prove truth to be such. Liberals argue lies and I am simply arguing the truth here. The truth can not be made into a lie. Which is what you are trying to do by saying, "YOU'RE WRONG MAN". |
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Romney was the best out of the bunch the entire time. This was long due. Sure Ron Paul has great theories and is passionate in his approach but his approach in change is too radical for the republican party and would cause as much as a stale mate as the POTUS finds himself in time and time again. Moving on to Romney. He IMHO is the best in change from the current cluster fawk where are in now. The guy is a republican who initiated the same "health care law" in his own state in which the current POTUS has based his entire presidency on. He backed off on clear issues like abortion and has spoken against the BS which occurs in his own religion and is extremely successful. Has ties to Mexico, France and his son speaks fluent spanish. With Marco Rubio as a running mate he could be a force but Rubio has his own issues with the Latino base in Florida so I dunno. IMO Romney is a guy who has good ole core values, has shown leadership within his own right and has the potential to smooth things over as a whole if elected. But that honestly is a long shot.
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![]() Like anyone else (whether you admit it or not), I’ve been curious how Mitt Romney would answer to some of the oddities about Mormonism. At a campaign stop in Wisconsin today a guy asked about interracial marriage and Romney showed how he’ll handle this type of question. “Do you believe it’s a sin for a white man to marry and procreate with a black?” Romney answered with a curt: “No, next question.” interesting posts in the comments section as always.. http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2012/04...nism-question/
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All of it.
The only boogy man to be feared and blamed for problems in a republic is those who vote. If you don't like what's going on blame the people that shaped the events. Religious conservative corporatist have ruled this country for 50 years and the idiots voting away their best interests are to blame. Obama was only a less religious and conservative corporatist than McCain but his policy is not so different as to scapegoat him for two generations of bullshit.
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What I will do is set you straight on some chain of events. We have been socialist since the founding of our country. Socialism only became a dirty word when the neocons took hold of the government and likened it to communism ignoring the fact that they themselves were more socialist than the totalitarian military dictatorships they were fighting. Even though I said I wouldn't do this I'll give you a little, socialism is when we all pay in and we all get benefits. We both use the roads, parks, CLEAN WATER, radio, tv, schools, even the FDA and USDA are great when they actually do their jobs, and we can't forget the social medicine we do provide(VA health system) is some of the best in the world. None of that is robin hoodesque wealth redistribution and ALL of it was created under real bipartisanship. Back to chain of events again. We were the most prosperous nation the worlds history until when exactly? Oh that's right GEORGE MOTHER FUCKING BUSH. Lets repeal all controls on the most important industries to our currency's security. Lets jump right into two wars with no positive outcome and fire any and all generals that aren't on board. Lets spend like there's no tomorrow, it's not like I'll have to worry about it after my second term. We to go Bush jr. You turned a solid up swing in the economy into bursting bubble that caused a multi industry crash that very nearly destroyed the country and may yet still destroy the currency. Do you honestly think Obama reached out through time and did that? The worst I can say of Obama is he hasn't done enough. Then again how could he with republicans blocking his every move, even when it's a republican move. P.S. Religion in schools was settled before your parents were born. Find your own battles. Don't rely and their rhetoric to define you and what you find important.
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Yes you are a liberal by the way. Anyone who supports Obama is a liberal. Socialism is a THEORY just like Communism. It works IN THEORY. Unlike Democrats and Liberals, George Bush and his "comrades" were only- You know what? All you are doing is acting like a typical liberal, you ignored- actually all you said to my first large post was "I wish I could take you seriously". You have NO ability to argue your points. All you do is turn it around and blame the same shit on a Republican. You are trying to argue lies as truth. I'm arguing Truth as Truth. Only one can come out on top and the Truth always wins, with enough time. Didn't do enough? ENOUGH? He hasn't done ANYTHING. The Republicans stop him because they believe in the traditional beliefs that MADE THE COUNTRY PROSPER. Obama is a fascist. He doesn't care about you. Or me. Or- how do you feel about gas prices exactly? You live in California, it must be 6 bucks down there. You going to find a liberal way to blame some Republican for that although it was Obama to veto the pipeline? He will sign it right before November. A president that has a good record doesn't need to strategically make himself look good. Eric Holder? Have you heard of him? He tells states they can't have voter I.D. laws so the illegals can't vote (which they need to WIN, the election). He TELLS THEM they can't. THAT is communism. The president and his people can not tell states what they can and can not do. What's your liberal response to why all this is happening? |
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The fact that he's LDS is none of anyone's fucking business. I'm tired of hearing this horse shit. His faith effects you as much as his preference for paper vs plastic bags. His fiscal and social policy has much more to do with things. His voting record and executive decisions are important. Not his fucking underwear or who he prays too.
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I wish i could pull up the article i read today but Osama is 1 point behind Ron Paul right after Romney. I guess the tables have turned. Romney definitely has the lead but this whole media approach is biased crap. They should not report diddly squat until all final numbers are in.
If i dig up the article ill post it. I believe it was washing machine times so if someone else finds it please post it. |
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