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Old 02-19-2019, 10:30 AM   #1
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Jon really helped me out with my manifold. I sourced a p12 head specific flange from Taarks as well as the turbine flange and he worked with me to make my ideal manifold.
Yes, I will be running EWG. Definitely something I thought pretty hard about, but it'll work best with my setup. Im utilizing a boosterless pedalbox setup which will keep my reservoirs in the cabin, and clear up all the firewall real estate on the drivers side of the engine bay. Gives me a lot of room to work with and keeps the heat from the hotside almost completely isolated. Im considering doing a wastegate dump out the hood where the master cylinder would sit stock, but not entirely sure on my exhaust situation quite yet. I sacrificed a lot of the features of the off the shelf 7163 (IWG, integrated BOV) but the weight savings and simplicity of the IRL turbo (while keeping the speed sensor, which was very important to me) just ended up outweighing the cons for me.

Again, not going to be ideal for everybody as I'm incorporating a lot of custom components, but everything on my build is tailored specifically to my unique needs and vision.
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Actually, I worked with Jon as the test mule/provided measurements for his EFR top mount manifold 3-4 years ago so yeah, I would like to work with him again if at all possible

The stock photo with red/pink valve cover on a S14 he uses on his site?? Yeah, that was my car
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I know there's a bunch of reputable fabricators who can make you a twin scroll collector and ship it over. Surprised he doesn't just make one if that's what you're wanting to pay for.
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Easier and cheaper to just buy the collectors.
Also time saved
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True, but then you risk justifying the integrity of your manifold with a collector that may or may not be up to par with the rest of the manifold. Strength wise.
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True, but then you risk justifying the integrity of your manifold with a collector that may or may not be up to par with the rest of the manifold. Strength wise.
Could be solved with a cnc collector, no?
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True, but then you risk justifying the integrity of your manifold with a collector that may or may not be up to par with the rest of the manifold. Strength wise.
Meh. That is less of an issue than you think. Vibrant makes great stuff for instance, but most Fabricators have a single or a few sources that they get the proper collector from and manifold material from.

Also, just buy from a reputable fabricator. Chances are, they are sourcing the proper material. Also, regardless of building your own or you sourcing them, most collectors are made from a small variety of SS and most material is either sourced from China or the US.

SS is resilient enough that small variations in SS makeup won't mark a noticeable difference unless you run into wild variations.

I trust Jon, as well as many other Fabricators, to get what is necessary. That's why I pay them the $$$ so I don't have to deal with all that

A Fabricators time is $$$. Why pay $50-$100 in material to spend 2-3 hours to make a collector, when they can just spend that same $100, buy a bunch and build several more manifolds in that time??

As the saying goes; sometimes the juice just aint worth the squeeze
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insa, I just realized

Are you running a sleeved engine?? 89x91 is a big boy engine and probably why all the the torques
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Yep, it's sleeved and that's also part of the reason why the powerband shifts a bit to the left. Yes yes helps with torque as well
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Well all said and done, I will have two sets of N1 Intake/ 16VE exhaust cams up for sale if anyone wants a set. Guy is sending me the other exhaust cam.

EDIT: One set sold. One set left

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I have a question about the PCV valve for the P11 head. I want to tap the PCV hole and the one to the back near it. What size would be good to go with? -8, -10?
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-10AN all around here. Its essentially the same ID as the stock.
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..........Sooooo, anyone else got their VET up and running??
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Nope [emoji23][emoji23] just got my final bits back from balancing so should be collecting the engine in the next couple of weeks


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My block is still getting assembled, have mostly everything else that I need to drop it in so I’m itching to get it back..
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Me me! Thought there were quite afew?
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My block is still getting assembled, have mostly everything else that I need to drop it in so I’m itching to get it back..
Did you figure your manifold and turbo?? Still on a 7163 v band external gate?? Seems like Fab Bros now manufactures the Indy Car EFR v band inlet flange (at a premium of $110 a piece!!)

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Nice! Info to build??

I just got mine running a few days ago. Stock stroke, 86.5 bore, forged bottom end, supertech stock sized vales with some bowl work, EFR 7163, sinco manifold, JK41 gearbox.

Thing sounds mental! Doing intercooler piping tonight (hopefully) and redoing the exhaust later this week.
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[QUOTE=RalliartRsX;6348833]Did you figure your manifold and turbo?? Still on a 7163 v band external gate?? Seems like Fab Bros now manufactures the Indy Car EFR v band inlet flange (at a premium of $110 a piece!!)



Got that flange from 3mi Racing some time back for about the same price. Sent it off to Jon at future fab along with a taarks p12 head flange and he made me a gorgeous manifold. Still need to track down an inlet adapter for the weird indycar 3 bolt inlet
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I just got mine running a few days ago. Stock stroke, 86.5 bore, forged bottom end, supertech stock sized vales with some bowl work, EFR 7163, sinco manifold, JK41 gearbox.

Thing sounds mental! Doing intercooler piping tonight (hopefully) and redoing the exhaust later this week.
I'm using SR20VE CP pistons 87 bore, spool imports conrods, tomei HG 1.2mm(cant really recall), supertech valves and springs, full race twin scroll manifold with Borgwarner EFR 7670, 2x external wastegates 38mm. Looking at doing up the meth kit next! And maybe BC cams, and maybe stroke up to a 2.2 in the near future
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I'm using SR20VE CP pistons 87 bore, spool imports conrods, tomei HG 1.2mm(cant really recall), supertech valves and springs, full race twin scroll manifold with Borgwarner EFR 7670, 2x external wastegates 38mm. Looking at doing up the meth kit next! And maybe BC cams, and maybe stroke up to a 2.2 in the near future


That sounds very similar to my build , interested to see your results !
Main difference is I’m on Darton sleeves , 89.5mm Carrillo pistons , carillo super pro a rods , full race efr7670 with twin 38mm as well . Not loads of people running this set up but have seen a couple of really nice builds with this turbo and it seems very well suited .
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Oh I have documentation. Full excel spreadsheet (which needs updating I had to auto recover several months back and was disgusted by how much I spent hahaha!), word document, wiring diagrams, ecu pinouts, valve shim clearance, part numbers, etc etc. hahahaha!

Anyways, boost_lee_145. Not much to see as I only divulged the build to a select few (couldn't be bothered with keyboard warriors and their inherent lack of creativity and knowledge......yeah, I should be in the grump old man thread hahaha!)

PM whatever questions you had in mind. I think we will have similar setups at the end of the day. My tune is scheduled for Aug 23rd.....which sucks as my tuner simply had no open slots in July
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Pretty good deal on a decent conservative drop in setup on Facebook right now for anyone considering going VET but hasn’t started yet

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Anybody parting out their setup, Im tentatively looking for a built bottom end done to vet specs. Dont need anything else, just the block. PM me if you have or know of one.
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I’ve been selling my VVL setup for a while now. Steve bought the cylinder head and all the TARKS parts. I Still have a brand new block with all parts ready to assemble for the right buyer.
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Did Tim sell his?? WHat happened to your block at the machine shop??

I will get in contact with Juan. He may have exactly what you need
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Did Tim sell his?? WHat happened to your block at the machine shop??

I will get in contact with Juan. He may have exactly what you need
😘 you the man! (Steve also hit me up about this. Ya’ll the MVP’s )
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Juan’s setup is ideally what I’d like to run, but unfortunately I’m not looking for another block I’ll have to have assembled.

My machine shop is overloaded with work and probably will not have my block back in 2 months or so. I have mostly everything I need to throw together my engine bay minus the block, but I can’t make any progress on designing/fabricating my v mount or my exhaust, or just situating parts in general until I have my engine in. I could have the car complete within that 2 month span if I could find a used block, already assembled to rwd vet specs and have it here within a few days. Then I have the bonus of having a spare assembled fresh block on the shelf should anything bad happen.

Contacted the guy on Facebook who’s ad I actually posted above, however his pistons don’t have valve reliefs and won’t work with my n1 cams. Can anyone tell me whether I could run p11 cams with a thicker headgasket and be okay? The only variable would be that his head is p11 and mine is p12, not sure if that changes valve clearances at all (I don’t believe so, but I figured you guys would have more insight)
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Juan’s setup is ideally what I’d like to run, but unfortunately I’m not looking for another block I’ll have to have assembled.

My machine shop is overloaded with work and probably will not have my block back in 2 months or so. I have mostly everything I need to throw together my engine bay minus the block, but I can’t make any progress on designing/fabricating my v mount or my exhaust, or just situating parts in general until I have my engine in. I could have the car complete within that 2 month span if I could find a used block, already assembled to rwd vet specs and have it here within a few days. Then I have the bonus of having a spare assembled fresh block on the shelf should anything bad happen.

Contacted the guy on Facebook who’s ad I actually posted above, however his pistons don’t have valve reliefs and won’t work with my n1 cams. Can anyone tell me whether I could run p11 cams with a thicker headgasket and be okay? The only variable would be that his head is p11 and mine is p12, not sure if that changes valve clearances at all (I don’t believe so, but I figured you guys would have more insight)
Shoot me a PM I can assemble it for you for a fee. I just need to know all the details on your setup and planes use so we can know the limitations
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