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lewisfk · 10-15-2019, 05:24 PM

Here you go. There are many more examples. Gun sales are going down, they will only go up if a Democrat wins the Presidency. The NRA will use fear to increase sales.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

Corbic · 10-15-2019, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lewisfk

Here you go. There are many more examples. Gun sales are going down, they will only go up if a Democrat wins the Presidency. The NRA will use fear to increase sales.

NRA has never once convinced me to do shit. However fucking idiots in congress ranting and raving about taking rifles and AWB and new taxes and import restrictions certainly have.

You need to get into the hobby and community more and you'll understand. Vast majority of us hate the NRA as a bunch of money grabbing limp dicks. The problem is, they are the only civil rights group that stands up for us.

S14rebuild · 10-15-2019, 05:28 PM

^glad this guy uses the bbc to report on US information....seems legit.

lewisfk · 10-15-2019, 06:02 PM

^^ Actually the data came from Pew Research, you can see their name located on the bottom lefts of the graph. Pew Research is well known for its statistical data and its authenticity!

S14rebuild · 10-15-2019, 06:26 PM

https://gunowners.org

lewisfk · 10-15-2019, 06:29 PM

^^ Actually I belong to a local gun group and my current Commanding Officer is a Navy Seal & CIA recruiter here in Austin Texas. We discuss gun rights and politics through the lens of actual boots on ground and force shaping of the U.S. Navy. I'm well aware of the NRA and I became a member when I completed Hunter Safety back in 1996. I slowly lost interest once I joined the military and actual learned how they do business!

Corbic · 10-15-2019, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lewisfk

Here you go. There are many more examples. Gun sales are going down, they will only go up if a Democrat wins the Presidency. The NRA will use fear to increase sales.

One chart doesn't make an article true. BBC is absolutely a propaganda machine and should be given as much credibility as you would Info Wars.

This is factually wrong. Typical AR pattern rifle is $500 to $800 today. An average 9mm pistol is $550. Only a few ultra trashy pistols retail for $200, think Diamond Back.

I love this shit... OMFG $5 MILLION DOLLARSSSSS

rvns14 · 10-15-2019, 07:16 PM

There are more guns, owned by fewer owners; like 240sxs now, several owners have many.
I also agree, the NRA is a marketing exercise; I support gun owners rights to have guns, but the NRA is bad news and more owners should be members of more responsible groups.

lewisfk · 10-15-2019, 07:59 PM

I call this the Beto Bounce! 2016 was the Hillary effect!

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/30/us-g...ump-slump.html

https://freebeacon.com/issues/monthl...ast-september/

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/data-statistics

Corbic · 10-16-2019, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rvns14

There are more guns, owned by fewer owners; like 240sxs now, several owners have many.
I also agree, the NRA is a marketing exercise; I support gun owners rights to have guns, but the NRA is bad news and more owners should be members of more responsible groups.

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Originally Posted by lewisfk

I call this the Beto Bounce! 2016 was the Hillary effect!

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/30/us-g...ump-slump.html

https://freebeacon.com/issues/monthl...ast-september/

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/data-statistics

Already gave up on the Kurds?

lewisfk · 10-16-2019, 12:51 PM

No I did not! I just proved my point with gun sales! To sum this up, the Kurds were left to be slaughter while the POTUS makes up lies justifying troop withdrawal. Republicans are outrage and begging the POTUS to reconsider troop withdrawal. WHY?

Corbic · 10-16-2019, 12:55 PM

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No I did not! I just proved my point with gun sales! To sum this up, the Kurds were left to be slaughter while the POTUS makes up lies justifying troop withdrawal. Republicans are out rage and begging the POTUS to reconsider troop withdrawal. WHY?

Military Industrial Complex.

We've covered this multiple times in the last few pages.

So you want Trump to invade Turkey?

lewisfk · 10-16-2019, 01:05 PM

^^What are you talking about? Turkey is invading Syria, because the U.S. left. Russia has taken the helm and directed Turkey not to go beyond 10 kilometers into Syria. If Turkey refuses and continues, this could lead to a bigger war. This will give plenty of time for ISIS to regroup and launch more attacks.

Corbic · 10-16-2019, 01:18 PM

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^^What are you talking about? Turkey is invading Syria, because the U.S. left. Russia has taken the helm and directed Turkey not to go beyond 10 kilometers into Syria.

So thr Kurds didn't get abandoned and genocided like you claim.

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If Turkey refuses and continues, this could lead to a bigger war.

A bigger war not involving the US....

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This will give plenty of time for ISIS to regroup and launch more attacks.

How?

You just said Russia moved in an secured Syria's boarder.

lewisfk · 10-16-2019, 01:39 PM

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So thr Kurds didn't get abandoned and genocided like you claim.

A bigger war not involving the US....

Turkey is an UN Partner, so yes it involves the U.S.

How?

You just said Russia moved in an secured Syria's boarder.

The top Kurdish General asked the U.S. for help, but when the President let his plea fall on death ears the General reached out to Russia. Now the Russian and Syrian Army will confront Turkey in support of the Kurds. The Kurds just made a deal with the devil to avoid genocide by the hands of Turkish military.

Corbic · 10-16-2019, 01:58 PM

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The top Kurdish General asked the U.S. for help, but when the President let his plea fall on death ears the General reached out to Russia.

Had they not plunged their own country into a Civil War seeking independence, they wouldn't have needed anyones help.

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Now the Russian and Syrian Army will confront Turkey in support of the Kurds.

Crisis averted, no America help needed! One step closer to ending hostilities and reuniting Syria!

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The Kurds just made a deal with the devil to avoid genocide by the hands of Turkish military.

What deal, what devil, what genocide?

By your own accounts, Russia has been the humanitarian savior from the very onset of the way.

The backed civil stability, provided funding, food and medical aid, provided troops and no fly zones and have worked tirelessly to bring resolution and peace.

US has only been shipping weapons to anyone claiming to be a "Freedom fighter", most of which are just straight up terrorists.

Genocide? Turkish paramilitary killed a dozen or so civilian clothed people. No dispute, seen the videos myself....

However, Turkey claims they are part of the Kurdish Terrorist forces who've been wreaking havoc back and forth the Turkish boarder and refusing to end the Civil War.

I posted the actual investigative journalist report showing how the Syrian Gas Attacks where hoaxes designed to get US/Western intervention.

There are also UN reports showing no evidence chemical weapons have ever used in Syria.

You people need to knock off this regime change bullshit already. Assad was an absolute puppy dog compared to countries like China, Brazil and Saudi Arabia. The war has nothing to do with "Freedom and Democracy". It's a drawn out proxy war of Iran, Iraq, Islamists, Israel, US, Russia and the Kurds.

Kurds ain't ever getting a country. They are Syrian Citizens and need to accept that, join the Syrian Military and defend the Syrian boarders.

*exitspeed* · 10-17-2019, 04:07 PM

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/17/us-a...announces.html

"It will be a pause in military operations for 120 hours while the United States facilitates the withdrawal of the YPG from the affected areas in the safe zone. And once that is completed, Turkey has agreed to a permanent cease-fire,"

If this was 2016 and Obama people would be saying he deserves a for a Noble Peace Prize.

feito · 10-17-2019, 06:49 PM

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/17/us-a...announces.html

"It will be a pause in military operations for 120 hours while the United States facilitates the withdrawal of the YPG from the affected areas in the safe zone. And once that is completed, Turkey has agreed to a permanent cease-fire,"

If this was 2016 and Obama people would be saying he deserves a for a Noble Peace Prize.

S14rebuild · 10-17-2019, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/17/us-a...announces.html

"It will be a pause in military operations for 120 hours while the United States facilitates the withdrawal of the YPG from the affected areas in the safe zone. And once that is completed, Turkey has agreed to a permanent cease-fire,"

If this was 2016 and Obama people would be saying he deserves a for a Noble Peace Prize.

Yuppp

***Future240*** · 10-18-2019, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/17/us-a...announces.html

"It will be a pause in military operations for 120 hours while the United States facilitates the withdrawal of the YPG from the affected areas in the safe zone. And once that is completed, Turkey has agreed to a permanent cease-fire,".

If this pans out, got to hand it to him. Great move. War avoided without dragging us into more conflict. Win Win for all.

lewisfk · 10-17-2019, 08:09 PM

First off Obama would of never abandoned an alley. This whole thing stinks like Trump U! Mitt Romney said it best today, Google it!

Corbic · 10-17-2019, 08:36 PM

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First off Obama would of never abandoned an alley. This whole thing stinks like Trump U! Mitt Romney said it best today, Google it!

You are full a shit dude.

And now you suddenly give a shit what Mutt Romney says?

lewisfk · 10-18-2019, 09:00 AM

Full of shit, thats your opinion! I'm sorry the President got it wrong and the majority of the Republican Party and Democratic Party is going in on him! How about you don't make policy decisions over tweet, and I'm damn sure this is the reason General Mattis left his administration. General Mattis' speech at the Al Smith dinner was hilarious!

Corbic · 10-18-2019, 11:31 AM

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Full of shit, thats your opinion! I'm sorry the President got it wrong and the majority of the Republican Party and Democratic Party is going in on him! How about you don't make policy decisions over tweet, and I'm damn sure this is the reason General Mattis left his administration. General Mattis' speech at the Al Smith dinner was hilarious!

Are you doubting Obama turned his back on a long standing US Ally, Egypt!?? His "Arab Spring" let the country descend into madness! He sold out a huge American supporter, Mubarak to appease fundimental Islamic radicals and terrorists.

Are you doubting that Obama not only turned his back, but murdered Muammar Mohammed who had become an ally in the war against ISIS and Al-qaeda. In fact, then Dec. State Hillary Clinton bragged on national TV about killing him.

Now, Lybia, which was once the most advanced, moderate and economically stable African nations has descended into a Mad Max style post apocalyptic wasteland. We now have open slave markets where ISIS supporters are selling African migrants into slavery. The country is a humanitarian nightmare and a spring board for illegal-immigration into Europe.

If Trump had attacked Turkey ya'll would be crying he's siding with Russia, dragging us into another endless war without reason. He'd be going to war with a fucking member of NATO and the EU.

You need more then "but people are suffering and want freedom" to defend the decision to go to war. People are suffering all over the fucking world. Why are you not howling to send troops to Hong Kong?

lewisfk · 10-18-2019, 09:34 AM

CNN is reporting Turkey broke the seas fire already!

Corbic · 10-18-2019, 11:05 AM

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CNN is reporting Turkey broke the seas fire already!

CNN....

Let me know when an actual news source starts reporting it.

lewisfk · 10-18-2019, 12:03 PM

Once again, why would the U.S. attack Turkey? Turkey has its own agenda and is acting on it know against the KURDS. Russia is supporting Syria, not Turkey. Once again your spouting nonsense. Russia will not allow Turkey to invade pass the greed upon point and cause anymore chaos in Syria.

Hong Kong has nothing to do with this! If American citizens wanted to help Hong Kong, they would stop buying products that are produced in China. Once China's GDP takes a major hit it, may be possible to push for better reforms. Our global supply chain is the major hurdle, stopping real reform in China.

Corbic · 10-18-2019, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lewisfk

Once again, why would the U.S. attack Turkey? Turkey has its own agenda and is acting on it know against the KURDS.Russia is supporting Syria, not Turkey. Once again your spouting nonsense. Russia will not allow Turkey to invade pass the greed upon point and cause anymore chaos in Syria.

What in the absolute fuck are you arguing.

Do you even know what is going on there or you just spouting Orange Man Bad!! HE ABANDONED THE KURDS!!!

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Hong Kong has nothing to do with this! If American citizens wanted to help Hong Kong, they would stop buying products that are produced in China. Once China's GDP takes a major hit it, may be possible to push for better reforms. Our global supply chain is the major hurdle, stopping real reform in China.

LA DEE FUCKING DA

So you support Trump's Tarriffs now?

What Kurdish products are Americans buying [emoji23][emoji23]

lewisfk · 10-18-2019, 06:00 PM

Are you crazy? The global supply chain is in reference to China, and no tariffs will not solve the problem. People who care about the struggles of the Chinese population will have make a hard decision when making purchase. Prop up a government with horrible human rights record or pay a little bit more for a product not made in China. The odds of this happening is slim to none.

Corbic · 10-18-2019, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lewisfk

Are you crazy? The global supply chain is in reference to China, and no tariffs will not solve the problem. People who care about the struggles of the Chinese population will have make a hard decision when making purchase. Prop up a government with horrible human rights record or pay a little bit more for a product not made in China. The odds of this happening is slim to none.

Dude, your a fucking riot.

So Chinese Atrocities are okay because they make cheap shit.

Stupid fucking Germans, if only they gave America the VW Beetle sooner...

Also, the Tarrifs are working. Turn off the Orange Man Bad drip already. Why do you think China is letting its porcelain mask slip? Then again, you likely haven't noticed.

Also, whatever happen to that Kurd solution you and the other consuming owed us?

10-15-2019, 05:24 PM	#1
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Gun Ownership Here you go. There are many more examples. Gun sales are going down, they will only go up if a Democrat wins the Presidency. The NRA will use fear to increase sales. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

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S14rebuild BANNED Join Date: May 2019 Location: Florida-FAIL Posts: 2,495 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	^glad this guy uses the bbc to report on US information....seems legit.

10-15-2019, 06:02 PM	#4
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^ Actually the data came from Pew Research, you can see their name located on the bottom lefts of the graph. Pew Research is well known for its statistical data and its authenticity!

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S14rebuild BANNED Join Date: May 2019 Location: Florida-FAIL Posts: 2,495 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	https://gunowners.org

10-15-2019, 06:29 PM	#6
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^ Actually I belong to a local gun group and my current Commanding Officer is a Navy Seal & CIA recruiter here in Austin Texas. We discuss gun rights and politics through the lens of actual boots on ground and force shaping of the U.S. Navy. I'm well aware of the NRA and I became a member when I completed Hunter Safety back in 1996. I slowly lost interest once I joined the military and actual learned how they do business!

10-15-2019, 07:16 PM	#8
rvns14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Maryland Age: 37 Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	There are more guns, owned by fewer owners; like 240sxs now, several owners have many. I also agree, the NRA is a marketing exercise; I support gun owners rights to have guns, but the NRA is bad news and more owners should be members of more responsible groups.

10-15-2019, 07:59 PM	#9
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I call this the Beto Bounce! 2016 was the Hillary effect! https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/30/us-g...ump-slump.html https://freebeacon.com/issues/monthl...ast-september/ https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/data-statistics

10-16-2019, 12:51 PM	#11
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	No I did not! I just proved my point with gun sales! To sum this up, the Kurds were left to be slaughter while the POTUS makes up lies justifying troop withdrawal. Republicans are outrage and begging the POTUS to reconsider troop withdrawal. WHY?

10-16-2019, 01:05 PM	#13
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	^^What are you talking about? Turkey is invading Syria, because the U.S. left. Russia has taken the helm and directed Turkey not to go beyond 10 kilometers into Syria. If Turkey refuses and continues, this could lead to a bigger war. This will give plenty of time for ISIS to regroup and launch more attacks.

10-17-2019, 08:09 PM	#21
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	First off Obama would of never abandoned an alley. This whole thing stinks like Trump U! Mitt Romney said it best today, Google it!

10-18-2019, 09:00 AM	#23
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Full of shit, thats your opinion! I'm sorry the President got it wrong and the majority of the Republican Party and Democratic Party is going in on him! How about you don't make policy decisions over tweet, and I'm damn sure this is the reason General Mattis left his administration. General Mattis' speech at the Al Smith dinner was hilarious!

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lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	CNN is reporting Turkey broke the seas fire already!

10-18-2019, 12:03 PM	#27
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Once again, why would the U.S. attack Turkey? Turkey has its own agenda and is acting on it know against the KURDS. Russia is supporting Syria, not Turkey. Once again your spouting nonsense. Russia will not allow Turkey to invade pass the greed upon point and cause anymore chaos in Syria. Hong Kong has nothing to do with this! If American citizens wanted to help Hong Kong, they would stop buying products that are produced in China. Once China's GDP takes a major hit it, may be possible to push for better reforms. Our global supply chain is the major hurdle, stopping real reform in China.

10-18-2019, 06:00 PM	#29
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 1,163 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Are you crazy? The global supply chain is in reference to China, and no tariffs will not solve the problem. People who care about the struggles of the Chinese population will have make a hard decision when making purchase. Prop up a government with horrible human rights record or pay a little bit more for a product not made in China. The odds of this happening is slim to none.